Assault (CAN) 1 Posted January 29, 2002 I can't see how someone could fake a video, or why, was that Bin Laden's body double give me a break. I doubt its some big conspiracy, some people watch too many movies. Anyways, of course the "Bin Laden" video is of bad quality, it was recorded by a visitors home camera and left behind in an abandoned building for some time. The other videos were set up for publicity purposes and they probably used better recording equipment. They were also shipped to media outlets as soon as they were recorded, they didn't sit around in the dust waiting for someone to find them. The "Bin Laden" video was some guy's home movie. I also doubt that the U.S. blamed Bin Laden for the 9/11 atacks because they couldn't find the "real" person that did it. They have been investigating the guy for years for the attacks on the Army barracks in Saudi Arabia, the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Africa and for the attack on the U.S.S. Cole. Tyler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wobble 1 Posted January 29, 2002 No, but when other videos from that warzone was of good quality, it seems a bit odd. not considering the other videos were shot before the US and NATO started bombing the ever loving shit out of every place they though Bin-Laden could be... its kinda hard to set up a nice production quaity set when there are pilots blowing shit up all around you. Media said it was found in a cave (the confession one). Since when is Al Jazeera based in Tora Bora? first off it wastn a "confession", it was just him commenting on how he was plesentley suprised that the buildings fell and that he didnt expect that would happen, he ... he never confessed.. but by saying he never EXPECTED them to fall proved that he knew what was going to happen.. and was 'pleasentley suprised' when the buildings actually fell. also he joked that many of the terrorists did not know what was going to happen to the... I.E. some of the hijackers didnt know the plane was going to be flown into a building.. hence HE knew that... CNN aired the film.. have any of you who think its fake seen it.. I dont know about you but I think it would be VERY hard to fake him moving around and talking to people like that... (the so called "confession" film is NOT the one this thread is about) Knowing is one thing. Proving is another. You might think you know he did it. But can you prove it? Well if everyone knows it.. doesent that make it an accepted fact.. noone is diputing it (save a few dummies here).. .. its so OBVIOUS he was behind it proving it would not do anything more than make most people say "well.. DUH!" is a terrorist untrusthworthy by default? More so than any other oppositionist? How so? yes, because the very act of terrorism depends on lieing and sneaking you way into an area/country/building.. and then commiting your act.. so if a terrorist was honest he would never accomplish his mission. What I was fucking talking about was that they are people willing to die for what they believe in...they are not weak.... they were fucking willing to fucking kill a bunch of fucking totally innocent man, women and children in a fucking cowardly act.. they are fucking pathetic cowards... And plus is it any of your or the US's business what they do? I dont know many US business who are in to killing innocent people because they belive something different than them. I'm not going to go on discussing this shit though because I'm not coming to this board to talk about the world Well moon landing boy then you must come here to make an ass out of yourself, for you sure do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted January 29, 2002 "Well if everyone knows it.. doesent that make it an accepted fact.. noone is diputing it (save a few dummies here).. .. its so OBVIOUS he was behind it proving it would not do anything more than make most people say "well.. DUH!"" No, it doesn't. For a long time everyone knew the earth was flat. Newsflash, it isn't. For a long time everyone knew God existed, lets just say that is still up for discussion. For a long time everyone knew OJ simpson killed his wife, he was found innocent. Knowing is not the same as proving. It is very different. "yes, because the very act of terrorism depends on lieing and sneaking you way into an area/country/building.. and then commiting your act.. so if a terrorist was honest he would never accomplish his mission." Wrong I'd say. Several so called terrorist attacks have been done in the open. And by that definition every covert organisations is untrustworthy. That is something I could go along with however. But I don't think terrorist are more untrustworthy to their opponents than regular armed forces or other combatants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete 1 Posted January 29, 2002 im not saying that the tape is a fake or not, only that i dont trust it 100% CNN aired the film.. have any of you who think its fake seen it.. I dont know about you but I think it would be VERY hard to fake him moving around and talking to people like that... back in the gulfwar american leaders (some, i dont remeber who) bragged over the new "media war" and that they could air faked videos of saddam drunk and eating pork......on iraqi television, if they wanted they could. they did produce a clip of a woman crying and explaining how the cruel iraqi soldiers went into hospitals and threw out infants to the streets etc etc....cnn aired it, worldwide. turned out (after the war) that this woman was not in kuwait, nor was she from kuwait, or ever been there....simply a fake video, for propaganda purposes its war, and its legal...thats very normal and there has propably never been a war without propaganda, even the romans used propaganda....its as old as war itself. but by now one would already expect to be fed lies from a goverment at war...if it is too good to be true, then it is. that tape about bin perhaps was meant to convince arabs that he is quilty, perhaps it was mean for someone else to justify the war...perhaps it is real, what do i know? nothing at all, neither do you.......but history is on my side, and history says that its most likely a lie. we will never know i quess. also, the talitubbies are bad, really really bad, and im happy they are gone....the na however was worse when they had the power, the talibans saved the nation from the na....considering how bad it was under taliban rule you can imagine how bad it was under na rule (they had a different name then i quess...but the same leaders) if bin laden is hurt or dead? i put it as rumsted (sp?) did "we KNOW that bin laden is in afganistan, some other country...or dead." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rogue2020 0 Posted January 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I can't see how someone could fake a video, or why, was that Bin Laden's body double give me a break. I doubt its some big conspiracy, some people watch too many movies. Anyways, of course the "Bin Laden" video is of bad quality, it was recorded by a visitors home camera and left behind in an abandoned building for some time. The other videos were set up for publicity purposes and they probably used better recording equipment. They were also shipped to media outlets as soon as they were recorded, they didn't sit around in the dust waiting for someone to find them. The "Bin Laden" video was some guy's home movie. I also doubt that the U.S. blamed Bin Laden for the 9/11 atacks because they couldn't find the "real" person that did it. They have been investigating the guy for years for the attacks on the Army barracks in Saudi Arabia, the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Africa and for the attack on the U.S.S. Cole. Tyler<span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I can't see how someone could fake a video, or why, was that Bin Laden's body double  give me a break. I doubt its some big conspiracy, some people watch too many movies<span id='postcolor'> And your using a computer right now?....I can't even imagine even the most primitive of people of this world making a statement like that..."how could you fake a video?"...do I even need to comment? You must be blown away by movies like the matrix wondering how these actors are dogging bullets...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rogue2020 0 Posted January 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> they were fucking willing to fucking kill a bunch of fucking totally innocent man, women and children in a fucking cowardly act.. they are fucking pathetic cowards<span id='postcolor'> "shakes head in agony"...this is why I don't come to these topics...this is why I don't step foot outside my house for weeks at a time because the mentality is just to much to take......I'm not coming to this topic again because if I'm going to make it in this world without killing myself I need to block out the human race..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WisdoM 1 Posted January 30, 2002 awww Rouge, has the poor baby been pampered his whole life and cant handle the REALITY of life? It's little whiney babies like you who piss me off. About how corrupt the world is and Fuck this and that. Your simple little mind cant handle the truths of life, and you lack any grain of intelligence in teh small little pea you call a brain. You're probably just some 14yr old rebel on his "fuck the world" speech, Reality needs to hit you cold hard in the face and show you how fucked you are. "Killing someone is nothing to me, its like shooting a stuffed animal" your one baddass d00, reading that crqcke d me up. Finish puberty and get out of the 8th grade, then go get a job and see what reall life is like....You apparently know nothing but what is perceived to be truth in that small brain of yours. Your a typical "everything form teh media is false" skeptical bastard. Oh well one day you'll see the turht, or your kill yourself, either one would be better fo rthe advancement of the world Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rogue2020 0 Posted January 31, 2002 I don't even know what I can say to something like that....I wish I mean I really wish you could fully understand what is going on with me because if you did...I don't even know what would happen...... I'm serious when I say I can't say anything to that...it's just to massive.....it's fucking sad... But one thing I can comment on is you said that killing thing is funny....I wasn't trying to be bad ass I was trying to make someone understand my view....that I have no regard for human life....my best friends could die today and I wouldn't care....I mean I just can't see giving a fuck in any way...I mean who cares....people live people die... Why am I bothering though?...I have never found anyone who seems like they can see anything....it's honestly like a world of drones..... I am just going to block out anything else you said because I have to accept that you have no idea what your talking about......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted February 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Jan. 28 2002,12:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what piss's me off is the US government is brainwashing civilians to hate bin laden and the taliban more and people buy into the shit....no one can respect what honorable people they are...<span id='postcolor'> I guess it's a good job I hated the Taliban well before Sept 11th then isn't it, I would so hate to be brainwashed Honourable people? Yes of course, executing women for adultery is honourable, banning music, banning any form of personal joy or expression is very honourable.<span id='postcolor'> when in rome do as the romans do though i do like that nice feeling of having afghanistan in our back pocket due to dubious means Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
serfinaR 10 Posted August 16, 2011 I don't know what is his last message but i wanted to know what it is. There are a lot of people who are happy about his dead but what i wanted is the bin laden film. Hollywood and the White House are in the middle of partisan bickering on Capitol Hill due to an upcoming movie about the raid that murdered Osama bin Laden. Oscar-winning director of “The Hurt Locker,†Kathryn Bigelow, is said to have been privy to inside details about the raid, which she and the White House denies happened. Here is the proof: White House denies sharing inside info for bin Laden film Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted August 16, 2011 This thread is 9 years old 0_0. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipper5 74 Posted August 16, 2011 I think you just set the forum record, serfinaR. Thread locked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
