Why is the G36 in OFP??

[Wobble 1]

First off.. it wasnt around till 5 years AFTER the OFP scenario.

Second: its modelled COMPLETELY WRONG in the game.. its more accurate than either sniper rifle.. and for some majical reason it doesent shake half as much as the REST of the weapons when you hold it..

when holding the G36 standing all the way up you shake about as much as while holding any other weapon PRONE..

it really ruines MP when hosts allow it.. it turns into fucking Rogue Spear where you can move anywhere because the second anyone sees you (if they have the 36) they can instantley pop you in the head from 400M becasue of its retarded accuracy and lack of shake..

dont get me wrong I like the 36 as a weapon.. one day I hope to buy a "sporterized" version.. but it really does not belong in the game.. ESPECALLY the way it is now.. they should at least fix it..

if not the next patch shuld have the OICW

that way the rape of storyline of the game can be completed..

hell why dont we just have lasers and force fields... WOOHOO

Flashpoint.. 3025

[Silencer 0]

the g36 ruines the gun I want more russian guns...

didn't the OICW didn't exist during 1985?

[Guest]

LOL Your points are certainly valid, but I wouldn't agree that it's more accurate than either sniper rifle..I find it fairly in-accurate and for some reason generally awkward to use and that sounds is also rather annoying.

OICW would be generally stupid in OFP but would actually be fairly devistating due to the fact OFP doesn't model batterys running out of the weapon falling apart in your hands.  

More Russian weapons would be nice very very true.

Oh and thanks for the avatar picture, it's put me off having children for life

[Tovarish 0]

Yep...somehow the russian small arms got neglected here....first off....how many new rifles did Nato get in that weapons pack? I know it was at least 3 assault rifles, ALL of them with optics. The Soviets? A sub-machine gun (don't get me wrong...I LOVE the Bizon.... 64 round clip *drool* but I still feel short-changed there) Also, both the Bizon and the G-36 weren't around in 1985, so I wasn't surprized when I didn't get to play with the Bizon in Red Hammer....but I was pretty surprized & pissed when I got my ass shot off by a Nato bloke with a G-36. What gives?

Gawddammnit I want the AN-94 with Cobra sight! Or at least one of the new 100-series AK's

[Kasatka 0]

Yeah..

- An-94 Abakan

- PKM

- Makarov 9mm

- Groza OTs-14 9x39mm

[Kasatka 0]

and what about this AK-74 here..

This would be great....

[110 0]

dont forget the RPK-74 and silenced AKSU-74

if there going to incorporate non-85 soviet weapons, they should add the VAL SS, AN-94, and AK-108.

why does the AKSU-74 have an AK-47 mag instead of an AK-74 mag? also the folding stock is wrong.

why does the Draganov SVD have the scope mounted unto the upper receiver cover instead of the side mount bracket like its supposed to?

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[Wobble 1]

I wouldn't agree that it's more accurate than either sniper rifle

I tested it.. on the desert island with a setviewdistance of 2000.. shooting at barrels.. and the side of a wall to test its "pattern"

its MUCH more accurate than the M21 or SVD (which are comparable)..

OICW would be generally stupid in OFP but would actually be fairly devistating due to the fact OFP doesn't model batterys running out of the weapon falling apart in your hands.

Im sure you vast and extensive knowledge of the reliability of the OICW

[Kasatka 0]

A closer view..

and...

Russian soldiers prepare to fight Chechen militants in Alkhan-Kala, 5 km (3 miles) west of Grozny.

[110 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kasatka @ Jan. 26 2002,05:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A closer view..

and...

Russian soldiers prepare to fight Chechen militants in Alkhan-Kala, 5 km (3 miles) west of Grozny.<span id='postcolor'>

Isn't that the AK-74m1a1?

nice pictures

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[FetishFool 0]

If they agree to stop making modern weapons, or agree to take out the G36 in the next patch, then I'm going to rape you in every MP server, Wobble.

The G36 is JUST as accurate as the M16 or AK74

There's no difference

[Wobble 1]

I'm going to rape you in every MP server

said like a true CS twat

and sorry.. as much as you would like to belive the G36 is done correctly.. its not.

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I tested it.. on the desert island with a setviewdistance of 2000.. shooting at barrels.. and the side of a wall to test its "pattern"

its MUCH more accurate than the M21 or SVD (which are comparable)..<span id='postcolor'>

Hurrmm at 2000m's with setviewdistance 2000 it's not possible to hit ANYTHING with the G36. The scope is far too pathetic.At 875 yards a man sized target is the size of your brain, i.e about 0.2x0.2mm's. So either:

A, You're lying (most likely)

B, You haven't got a clue what you're talking about (also rather likely) or

C, You edited your G36 addon (not very likely)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Im sure you vast and extensive knowledge of the reliability of the OICW<span id='postcolor'>

Nope, but it's obvious you cant read or you would know that the OICW does have a limited battery life and you would also see that it's made of a plastic-based-material and as far as I'm concerned something with a 20mm cannon strapped to it should NOT be surrounded by plastic.

[Silencer 0]

a scoped ak-74 with a silencer will be great!!!

[hkg3 0]

When it first came out all i wanted in my missions were G36's, well look at me name u see why. I don't find it any more accurate or any less accurate than any other weapon in the game, it is certianly helped by the fact it has a scope, but look at most of the user made addons now and they all have scopes on them anyway, lastly i would certianly have to disagree with the statement that the G36 is more accurate than the sniper rifles in the game...............AND who cares about historical accuracy, as long as they don't start adding laser rifles or something stupid like that i don't have a problem. If you are making missions that are set in the present then having G36 and Steyr and Bizon in the game is not going to be a problem is it?

[Random 0]

Yes, the G36 and other weapons were released mostly so that people can make realistic fan-made missions. It's not present in the original campaign, so I don't know why you're complaining. Yes, it's in Red Hammer, but RH isn't exactly realistic anyway (1 man vs. an entire army), so it doesn't matter.

If you're going to argue stuff like that, you should be bitching about the M1A1 being in the 1985 game too.

[Assault (CAN) 1]

I am taking Wobble's side on this issue. I agree, the G-36 has too much power for a 5.56 NATO round. I don't feel that it is more accurate than other weapons though.

On the power issue. Far too many times I have shot a Russian in the chest with an M-21 only to have him try and crawl or run away. One shot from a G-36 tends to kill with chest shots, even at 300-400m. The M-21 is underpowered, the last time I checked, a 7.62 NATO round could drop a moose with no problem. OFP is awesome but like all things on earth, it has flaws.

As for the lack of Russian weapons, well there aren't that many to begin with in real life. You can't put much more Russian weapons in the game, all you can do is add modifications, like scopes or newer versions of old weapons.

The AK-47, AKM, AK-74, AK-100 etc, are all basically the same thing, they might be slightly different in real life but in OFP you can't really tell a difference. The reason there are more western weapons in OFP is because there are more in real life, all with different shapes and actions, you can tell the difference of these in OFP.

If I could add an eastern weapon to OFP, I would add this:

This is a Yugoslavian M-76 in 7.9x57.

But it would probably have the same performance as the Dragunov, so it would be kind of pointless, other than it being a "neat" thing to have. However I agree, more weapons (Russian or not) would be nice, just to have a choice.

Tyler

[Wobble 1]

I just did another test.. I lined up 10 enemy solders and shot them all in the leg with the G36..

7 out of 10 times a single shot in the leg resulted in DEATH.

I tried it with the M16.

2 out of 10 times it resulted in death

5 times the soldier lost the ability to walk (far as I could tell)

most of the time there was no reaction other then to shoot back...

shots were fired from ~200 m

[Assault (CAN) 1]

Wobble, now try the same with an M-21.

Tyler

[Wobble 1]

what about the M21?.. the M16 and the G36 shoot the same round... so why is the G36 more lethal??

there is absolutley no reason for it... not in OFP not in real life.

[Assault (CAN) 1]

what about the M21?.. the M16 and the G36 shoot the same round... so why is the G36 more lethal??

there is absolutley no reason for it... not in OFP not in real life.

Eh?

Did you read my earlier post? I was saying that the G-36 seemed to have more stopping power than the M-21 in OFP. If you proved it true, that would further back up your claim that the G-36 is unrealistic in OFP.

Tyler

[the nothing 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Random @ Jan. 27 2002,18:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes, the G36 and other weapons were released mostly so that people can make realistic fan-made missions. It's not present in the original campaign, so I don't know why you're complaining. Yes, it's in Red Hammer, but RH isn't exactly realistic anyway (1 man vs. an entire army), so it doesn't matter.

If you're going to argue stuff like that, you should be bitching about the M1A1 being in the 1985 game too. <span id='postcolor'>

Agreed. The timeline is near COMPLETELY irrelevant to me. I wouldn't b*tch if they released the OICW or some modern or prototype weapon. I would instead be pleased we even had the weapons. But I do agree about there not being enough East weapons and the G36 being overpowered.

[Wobble 1]

Did you read my earlier post? I was saying that the G-36 seemed to have more stopping power than the M-21 in OFP

oh, ok ill check it out