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w00t where's the ak-47?

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I have OFP and I can't find any soldier using the ak-47 ,most of them use ak-74.

I wanna try the ak-47 how powerful it is.

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dammit the resistance suck they should make the russians too ability to use the ak-47.

thats a good suggestion for the next patch...

7.67mm rounds own 5.6mm rounds.

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still the ak-47 is one of the best used weapon in the world 15 armys uses it as there #1 choose...

and maney people still us it today...

I hate the weak 5.56mm rounds....

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The 5.45 caliber kills just as well as a 7.62, and is lighter/smaller which is good when you carry loads of them.

The large caliber is only useful on extreme range, like in the SVD.

Besides, the AK-47 and AK-74 are exactly alike in OFP. Same damage/reload/precision etc.

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I always see the american side using the 5.65mm

russia is famous for using 7.67mm all the time,now they switch to 5.56mm!

the ak-47 is as accurate as sniper rifles if you take single shots.

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the ak-47 is as accurate as sniper rifles if you take single shots.

LOL, Yeah..... sure it is. If it was then all the snipers would dump their rifles for AK's LOL

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Only recently has russia adopted the 5.56 in their AK-100 series.

The AK-74, which has been used since 1974 (duh) has been using 5.45, not 5.56 nor 7.62

This hurt export though, so the AK-100 series also comes in 7.62 and 5.56

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Silencer @ Jan. 24 2002,21:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I always see the american side using the 5.65mm

russia is famous for using 7.67mm  all the time,now they switch to 5.56mm!

the ak-47 is as accurate as sniper rifles if you take single shots.<span id='postcolor'>

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LOL oh yeah it sure is accurate the first 70-100m after that forget about hitting your target. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

But at the first 70-100m you hit everything just on eyesight. Did a shooting at 80m on a 2/3 man size target with the rifle above my head and hit with 12 out of 15 shoots, and that was on burst. But at 150m i only hit with a little above 70% on single.

But with the HK G3

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and the Diemaco C7 (Canadian build M16)

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i hit with around 95% at 300m.

The great thing with the AK47 is that it can endure almost everything. You can put it in a hole in the ground let be there a years, then dust it off and start shooting wink.gif

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Okay, let's straighten some things out.

The AK47 is DEAD. They never survived very long. Because they would fall apart after time. They were all replaced by the cheaper AKM.

The AKM is the AK47, but with a more solid body. The AK47 was more expensive because it was 50% hand-made.

The AKM is 100% machine-made.

The AKM is good for 300 meters. Then bullet drop makes it hit the ground after about 50 meters.

300 meters is still a lot. But it's nothing compared to the 1000 meters the AK74 achieves.

But how far does the human eye see, anyways. We can't see 1 km in front of us. So I personally prefer the AKM.

The NATO 5.56 round breaks up after impact. The 7.62 round stays in-tact. So it easily penetrates wood, then hits it's human target.

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Oh, and AK weapons are very accurate.

People just think the AK is inaccurate because they always see poorly fed, under-slept, and dying people operate the AKs.

With the M16, you'll never hit anything beyond 200 meters with full auto mode.

Same thing with the AKM.

Burst mode is the only accuracy difference between the two.

Burst fire is more accurate with the M16, than the AKM.

With single shots, they're both precise.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Silencer @ Jan. 24 2002,21:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I always see the american side using the 5.65mm

russia is famous for using 7.67mm  all the time,now they switch to 5.56mm!

the ak-47 is as accurate as sniper rifles if you take single shots.<span id='postcolor'>

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WTF!!

AK-47/AKM shoot the 7.62x39mm (M43). wich really does not produce wound channels any larger then most big bore handguns.

The AK-74 wich shoots the 5.45x39.5mm causes more tissue damage and reliable expends its energy into target. the tip has an airpocket that cause the bullet to tumble in flesh. eeew!

search the net for DR. Martin Facklers study on military cartridge ballistics. a very interesting read.

The 7.62x39mm is not NOT capable of sniper like accuracy from an assault rifle. its only accurate at 150 yards. max effective range is about 400 yards. 600yds if you want to shoot large buildings biggrin.gif

it has way too much bullet drop. the 5.45 has a much flatter trajectory then the M43, thus increasing target engagment range. the 7.62x39mm AKM is only about a 4" inch goup at 150 yards. of course depending on quality this will vary, but under no circumstance will an AK shoot sub MOA like a true sniper rifle.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FetishFool @ Jan. 25 2002,01:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Okay, let's straighten some things out.

The AK47 is DEAD.  They never survived very long.  Because they would fall apart after time.  They were all replaced by the cheaper AKM.

The AKM is the AK47, but with a more solid body.  The AK47 was more expensive because it was 50% hand-made.

The AKM is 100% machine-made.

The AKM is good for 300 meters.  Then bullet drop makes it hit the ground after about 50 meters.

300 meters is still a lot.  But it's nothing compared to the 1000 meters the AK74 achieves.

But how far does the human eye see, anyways.  We can't see 1 km in front of us.  So I personally prefer the AKM.

The NATO 5.56 round breaks up after impact.  The 7.62 round stays in-tact.  So it easily penetrates wood, then hits it's human target.<span id='postcolor'>

Okay, let's straighten some things out.

The AK-47 has a SOLID body. it has a MILLED RECEIVER. The AKM is cheaper to make, but is not as durable an an AK-47 due to its steel stampings. the original AK-47 design called for steel stampings, but the soviets were not capable of that process at the time. the AK-46 was too complicated in mechanical working to put into production either.

The AK-74 DOES NOT have an effective range of 1000 meters. good God! the AK-74 is accurate at about 200 meters; same as the M-16a2. sure the bullets could reach that far, but too much of the muzzle energy will have bleed off, much less hit a man sized target with accuracy. better cross your fingers.

the bullet drop with the M43 cartridge will not drop after 50 meters. the 7.62x39mm is similar in ballistics to the common 30-30 deer cartridge. if you cant hit a target at 100yards with it without raising the tangent rear site, then their must be something wrong with the shooter, or bad ammo.

the M43 cartridge still has one thing going for it that the 5.56 and 5.45 do not. it can penetrate light cover such as wood alot better. thus allowing you to shoot through wood/walls and hit someone on the otherside with deadly force. the 5.56 will fragmentate after hitting solid mass and break apart. this is why SWAT teams are switching to .223's because it is a safer inhouse round then even a 9mm. same goes for the 5.45, but not to the degree of the .223. similar to what you pointed out in you post. so ditto on that biggrin.gif

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