mp_phonix 0 Posted February 19, 2006 hi guys ! im gonna make a campaign of russian trops in afghanistan, but i need units. can anyone recomend me on russian DESERT CAMO armoered/air/infnatry units ? i think there ORCS rus infantry but i cant find it . .tnx in advance , hop iget help p.s afghan rebels will also help (by the way. i need 79-89 troops/rebels, if theres one) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironsight 1 Posted February 19, 2006 You mean these? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mp_phonix 0 Posted February 19, 2006 yes i meant that ! tnx ! is there anymore RUS units in desert cammo ? and can anyone give me links to BMP's in desert cammo, also need a MI24/Mi8 in Des cammo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSX 8 Posted February 19, 2006 Well, phoenix, I don't suggest you to make your campaign with these units.They are not perfect in graphics and are using old soviet uniform.It's better to use RHS stuff even in woodland camo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j w 0 Posted February 19, 2006 Maybe this? I dunno, just desert camo... Alot of rebels Mi24 Desert Our Weapons Mi8 pack. Features a desert Mi8 East armored w/ desert camo. Direct download. Search and you shall find Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSX 8 Posted February 19, 2006 @J W Looks like you've just suggested an old spooky stuff from grandmother's chest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mp_phonix 0 Posted February 19, 2006 tnx guys ! i thought about RHS troops but they are in woodland. il work it out anyway, tnx al i have left is desert cammo BMP's . . btw. i need static PK machines guns . .if u know where i cant find em . . ----- found em. dont look for em Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSX 8 Posted February 19, 2006 Well, the main reason as for me not to use desert russian camo because they are worse done than RHS's woodland ones.If you're going to use it in a modern campaign it will be much more irrealistic than if you put some units in woodland camouflage.As is woodland isn't very big mistake.In films like BHD you could see woodland Hummers in desert.So it won't be a serious or eye-scratching mistake...As for BMP-look for Vit's pack.If you're going to do your campaign during the soviet period-use ORCS's BMP 1,camo on it is look like olive,so it's will be compatible with desert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mp_phonix 0 Posted February 19, 2006 Well, the main reason as for me nor to usr desert russian camo because they are worse than RHS's one.If you're going to use it in a modern campaign it will be much more inrealistic than if you put some units in woodland camouflage.As is woodland isn't very big mistake.In films like BHD you could see woodland Hummers in desert.So it won't be a serious or eye scratching mistake...As for BMP-look for Vit's pack.If you're going to do your campaign during the soviet period-use ORCS's BMP 1,camo on it is look like olive,so it's will be compatible with desert. ok tnx very much ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j w 0 Posted February 19, 2006 The east armored with desert camo looks like this. Bit crappy, looks better ingame. @NSX: I would prefer the term "coffin". Crap, not even that sounded right... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@cero 0 Posted February 19, 2006 It sounds like you are going to make a campaign based in the Soviet ocupation that toke place between 79 and 89, if that's the case PsyKKe Soviet Infantry Afghan War era sugested by Ironsight could be your best bet. There used to be a mod based in this that to my dissapointment ended up before they released something else than a very good map of Afghanistan, but I know that just the research for that was hard enought, so never mind being able to release something. I did struggle a lot to find good visual data about this conflict, but one thing I did notice was the mixture of Soviet camo during the ten years of fighting. Air units wasn't necessarly painted in dessert camo, they were actually a minority, and many of the armoured vehicles where painted in green, same for the transport vehicles. The moust used MBT was the T 55, and this one seems to be always painted in a single tone dessert camo, but judjing by the tank graveyard above it could be that they are painted in some kind of green too. Also note that Afghanistan is very big, and that there you can find dessert, and also a big percentage of the landscape is very fertile and green, so the use of a single camo during the conflict would be irrelevant. More pics. Hundreds of Soviet tanks rust along Afghanistan's river valleys, on mountain slopes Destroyed Hind Soviet rocket launcher in Afghanistan Russian plane boneyard Destroyed T 55 SU76 Sukhoi Su-17m3s and m4s of the Soviet Union's  VVS 40th Air Army in Afghanistan, 1980-8. This is where I got most of them Knowing my luck you'll be working in something else and all this I just posted is not good for you, but I hope it hellps. Regards. @CERO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted February 19, 2006 It sounds like you are going to make a campaign based in the Soviet ocupation that toke place between 79 and 89, if that's the case PsyKKe Soviet Infantry Afghan War era sugested by Ironsight could be your best bet.There used to be a mod based in this that to my dissapointment ended up before they released something else than a very good map of Afghanistan, but I know that just the research for that was hard enought, so never mind being able to release something. I did struggle a lot to find good visual data about this conflict, but one thing I did notice was the mixture of Soviet camo during the ten years of fighting. Air units wasn't necessarly painted in dessert camo, they were actually a minority, and many of the armoured vehicles where painted in green, same for the transport vehicles. [im]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Evstafiev-afghan-apc-passes-russian.jpg[/img] [im]http://www.expatmonkey.com/images/afghanistan/images/afghanistan009.JPG[/img] The moust used MBT was the T 55, and this one seems to be always painted in a single tone dessert camo, but judjing by the tank graveyard above it could be that they are painted in some kind of green too. Also note that Afghanistan is very big, and that there you can find dessert, and also a big percentage of the landscape is very fertile and green, so the use of a single camo during the conflict would be irrelevant. More pics. Hundreds of Soviet tanks rust along Afghanistan's river valleys, on mountain slopes Destroyed Hind Soviet rocket launcher in Afghanistan Russian plane boneyard Destroyed T 55 SU76 Sukhoi Su-17m3s and m4s of the Soviet Union's VVS 40th Air Army in Afghanistan, 1980-8. This is where I got most of them Knowing my luck you'll be working in something else and all this I just posted is not good for you, but I hope it hellps. Regards. @CERO. The armour seen in that tank graveyard photo is heavily weathered, to the point that you can now only see the primer (bright yellow colour. It's not 'desert camo', as the actual camouflage paint has been worn off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@cero 0 Posted February 19, 2006 Yeah, it could be the primer. I haven't seen a green T 55 in any of the pictures or videos from the Soviet-Afghan war, but I have seen many other vehicles in non dessert camo. It is a very extrange era, because most of the pics you'll come across are black and white. Many of them of a very good quality, good for models, but not for textures I do not understand what is the deal with all this pictures being in black and white. Maybe they had some kind of restriction on what kind of film the Russian forces could use. So most of the color pictures you can see are from the aftermach really, lots of weathered effects there, and not much of their full glory colors. Peaty. @CERO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PEPE 0 Posted February 19, 2006 More Soviet ocupation of Afghanistan: Planes: Mig-17 (For Afghan army (Democratic Republic Afghanistan?) http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=5673 Mig-21 (suport?) http://www.footmunch.org.uk/mig21.zip Il-28 Beagle (Afghans and russians too) http://www.footmunch.org.uk/rktbeagle.zip Mig 23 an Mig 27 (I know that in Afghanistan only uses ground role mig 23 but...) http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=7324 Su 22 http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=7882 Helicopters: Mil2 http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=4665 mi-8/17 Vits: http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=8557 http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=8687 mi 24 (Vits and yoda versions) http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?oblast=addons&search=mi24 Armored units: T-55 http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=8253 t34/85 (used in DRA army and Talibans) http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=8225 Btr60 http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=5677 btr70 and 80 http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=5705 bdrm1 http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=6504 bdrm2 http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=9316 An and12 and Bdm1 http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=7973 BMP family http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?oblast=addons&search=bmp truks: http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?oblast=addons&search=gaz http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?oblast=addons&search=zil http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=9553 http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=9111 weapons: http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=6871 Infantry and others http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=7255 Vilas pack, weapons, units and some vehicles http://ofp.gamepark.cz/_hosted/vilas/index_eng.html if I forget something sorry, but I use this packs to play in the Afghan ocupation, the list are open for more sugerencies. bye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites