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hi guys ! im gonna make a campaign of russian trops in afghanistan, but i need units.

can anyone recomend me on russian DESERT CAMO armoered/air/infnatry units ? i think there ORCS rus infantry but i cant find it . .tnx in advance smile_o.gif, hop iget help yay.gif

p.s

afghan rebels will also help (by the way. i need 79-89 troops/rebels, if theres one)

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yes i meant that smile_o.gif ! tnx !

is there anymore RUS units in desert cammo ?

and can anyone give me links to BMP's in desert cammo, also need a MI24/Mi8 in Des cammo.

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Well, phoenix, I don't suggest you to make your campaign with these units.They are not perfect in graphics and are using old soviet uniform.It's better to use RHS stuff even in woodland camo.

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@J W

Looks like you've just suggested an old spooky stuff from grandmother's chest. biggrin_o.gif

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tnx guys !

i thought about RHS troops but they are in woodland.

il work it out anyway, tnx smile_o.gif

al i have left is desert cammo BMP's . . smile_o.gif

btw.

i need static PK machines guns . .if u know where i cant find em . . ----- found em. dont look for em smile_o.gif

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Well, the main reason as for me not to use desert russian camo because they are worse done than RHS's woodland ones.If you're going to use it in a modern campaign it will be much more irrealistic than if you put some units in woodland camouflage.As is woodland isn't very big mistake.In films like BHD you could see woodland Hummers in desert.So it won't be a serious or eye-scratching mistake...As for BMP-look for Vit's pack.If you're going to do your campaign during the soviet period-use ORCS's BMP 1,camo on it is look like olive,so it's will be compatible with desert.

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Well, the main reason as for me nor to usr desert russian camo because they are worse than RHS's one.If you're going to use it in a modern campaign it will be much more inrealistic than if you put some units in woodland camouflage.As is woodland isn't very big mistake.In films like BHD you could see woodland Hummers in desert.So it won't be a serious or eye scratching mistake...As for BMP-look for Vit's pack.If you're going to do your campaign during the soviet period-use ORCS's BMP 1,camo on it is look like olive,so it's will be compatible with desert.

ok smile_o.gif

tnx very much !

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desertarmored_east.jpg

The east armored with desert camo looks like this.

Bit crappy, looks better ingame.

@NSX: I would prefer the term "coffin". wink_o.gif Crap, not even that sounded right... crazy_o.gif

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It sounds like you are going to make a campaign based in the Soviet ocupation that toke place between 79 and 89, if that's the case PsyKKe Soviet Infantry Afghan War era sugested by Ironsight could be your best bet.

There used to be a mod based in this that to my dissapointment ended up before they released something else than a very good map of Afghanistan, but I know that just the research for that was hard enought, so never mind being able to release something.

I did struggle a lot to find good visual data about this conflict, but one thing I did notice was the mixture of Soviet camo during the ten years of fighting.

Air units wasn't necessarly painted in dessert camo, they were actually a minority, and many of the armoured vehicles where painted in green, same for the transport vehicles.

Evstafiev-afghan-apc-passes-russian.jpg

afghanistan009.JPG

The moust used MBT was the T 55, and this one seems to be always painted in a single tone dessert camo, but judjing by the tank graveyard above it could be that they are painted in some kind of green too.

Also note that Afghanistan is very big, and that there you can find dessert, and also a big percentage of the landscape is very fertile and green, so the use of a single camo during the conflict would be irrelevant.

More pics.

Hundreds of Soviet tanks rust along Afghanistan's river valleys, on mountain slopes

Destroyed Hind

Soviet rocket launcher in Afghanistan

Russian plane boneyard

Destroyed T 55

SU76

Sukhoi Su-17m3s and m4s of the Soviet Union's  VVS 40th Air Army in Afghanistan, 1980-8.

This is where I got most of them

Knowing my luck you'll be working in something else and all this I just posted is not good for you, but I hope it hellps.

Regards.

@CERO.

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It sounds like you are going to make a campaign based in the Soviet ocupation that toke place between 79 and 89, if that's the case PsyKKe Soviet Infantry Afghan War era sugested by Ironsight could be your best bet.

There used to be a mod based in this that to my dissapointment ended up before they released something else than a very good map of Afghanistan, but I know that just the research for that was hard enought, so never mind being able to release something.

I did struggle a lot to find good visual data about this conflict, but one thing I did notice was the mixture of Soviet camo during the ten years of fighting.

Air units wasn't necessarly painted in dessert camo, they were actually a minority, and many of the armoured vehicles where painted in green, same for the transport vehicles.

[im]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Evstafiev-afghan-apc-passes-russian.jpg[/img]

[im]http://www.expatmonkey.com/images/afghanistan/images/afghanistan009.JPG[/img]

The moust used MBT was the T 55, and this one seems to be always painted in a single tone dessert camo, but judjing by the tank graveyard above it could be that they are painted in some kind of green too.

Also note that Afghanistan is very big, and that there you can find dessert, and also a big percentage of the landscape is very fertile and green, so the use of a single camo during the conflict would be irrelevant.

More pics.

Hundreds of Soviet tanks rust along Afghanistan's river valleys, on mountain slopes

Destroyed Hind

Soviet rocket launcher in Afghanistan

Russian plane boneyard

Destroyed T 55

SU76

Sukhoi Su-17m3s and m4s of the Soviet Union's VVS 40th Air Army in Afghanistan, 1980-8.

This is where I got most of them

Knowing my luck you'll be working in something else and all this I just posted is not good for you, but I hope it hellps.

Regards.

@CERO.

The armour seen in that tank graveyard photo is heavily weathered, to the point that you can now only see the primer (bright yellow colour. It's not 'desert camo'wink_o.gif, as the actual camouflage paint has been worn off.

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Yeah, it could be the primer.

I haven't seen a green T 55 in any of the pictures or videos from the Soviet-Afghan war, but I have seen many other vehicles in non dessert camo.

It is a very extrange era, because most of the pics you'll come across are black and white. Many of them of a very good quality, good for models, but not for textures crazy_o.gif I do not understand what is the deal with all this pictures being in black and white. Maybe they had some kind of restriction on what kind of film the Russian forces could use. So most of the color pictures you can see are from the aftermach really, lots of weathered effects there, and not much of their full glory colors. Peaty.

@CERO.

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More Soviet ocupation of Afghanistan:

Planes:

Mig-17 (For Afghan army (Democratic Republic Afghanistan?)

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=5673

Mig-21 (suport?)

http://www.footmunch.org.uk/mig21.zip

Il-28 Beagle (Afghans and russians too)

http://www.footmunch.org.uk/rktbeagle.zip

Mig 23 an Mig 27 (I know that in Afghanistan only uses ground role mig 23 but...)

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=7324

Su 22

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=7882

Helicopters:

Mil2

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=4665

mi-8/17 Vits:

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=8557

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=8687

mi 24 (Vits and yoda versions)

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?oblast=addons&search=mi24

Armored units:

T-55

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=8253

t34/85 (used in DRA army and Talibans)

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=8225

Btr60

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=5677

btr70 and 80

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=5705

bdrm1

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=6504

bdrm2

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=9316

An and12 and Bdm1

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=7973

BMP family

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?oblast=addons&search=bmp

truks:

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?oblast=addons&search=gaz

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?oblast=addons&search=zil

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=9553

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=9111

weapons:

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=6871

Infantry and others

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/index.php?showthis=7255

Vilas pack, weapons, units and some vehicles

http://ofp.gamepark.cz/_hosted/vilas/index_eng.html

if I forget something sorry, but I use this packs to play in the Afghan ocupation, the list are open for more sugerencies.

bye

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