The Middle East part 2

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...yeah, those are Israeli settlements, not lakes.

[Bernadotte 0]

Yes... The blue patches are Israeli settlements.

PM Sharon has promised he will take those settlers out if the Palestinians will take control of the terror.

Of course, everyone knows Sharon is full of shit when (if) he says something like that.  But, it's quite sad that a lot of Israelis have either convinced themselves to think the same way, perhaps to avoid being regarded as land thieves, or have become very used to lying.

[EiZei 0]

Oops.

[Blake 0]

Quote[/b] ]Of course, everyone knows Sharon is full of shit when (if) he says something like that.  But, it's quite sad that a lot of Israelis have either convinced themselves to think the same way, perhaps to avoid being regarded as land thieves, or have become very used to lying.

Well exactly same words can be said Palestinian authority and Mr Arafat. Full of shit, ehh? So let us argue which side is the shitties. But I think it smells enough in Mid East and they'll never get peace by throwing shit at each other unless they both get out of office.

[Bernadotte 0]

Quote[/b] ]Of course, everyone knows Sharon is full of shit when (if) he says something like that.  But, it's quite sad that a lot of Israelis have either convinced themselves to think the same way, perhaps to avoid being regarded as land thieves, or have become very used to lying.

Well exactly same words can be said Palestinian authority and Mr Arafat...

Of course.  And if Palestinians ever comes to our community and try to spread the lies of their leader I'll deal with them the same way I dealt with Ram TN.  But so far the propagandists around here are nearly all Israeli (or pro-Israeli).

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Diplomatic convoy attacked...

Quote[/b] ]A United States diplomatic convoy has been hit by a massive bomb blast in the Gaza Strip which killed three Americans and injured one...

Quote[/b] ]Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat has condemned "this ugly crime targeting American observers as they were on a mission for security and peace".

Hell on a handcart i tells ya

[Bernadotte 0]

Convoy blast kills 4 US security guards

Quote[/b] ]FOUR American security guards were killed by a roadside bomb that exploded near United States diplomatic vehicles in the Gaza Strip today.  The vehicle was part of a US convoy driving near the Palestinian town of Beit Hanoun when it was hit by a massive explosion.  Reports said four other Americans were wounded in the attack, just south of the Erez crossing between Israel and the Gaza Strip.  There was no immediate claim of responsibility.

...and from the same article...

Quote[/b] ]The attack came shortly after the US vetoed a UN Security Council resolution that would have condemned Israel for building a security barrier that cuts into the West Bank.

The US was the only country to vote against the resolution, using its veto as one of five permanent members of the council.

You don't suppose the two incidents could be related, do ya?  

[bn880 5]

What a surprize, US vetoes a resolution condemning Israel for the fence. And they hope to get their own resolution on Iraq passed. Hmm.

Anyway I am not sure about the content of the fence condemnation, but I'm sure it had somehting to do with it being in a totally wrong place, since any nation is allowed to build walls as tall as the CN tower in their own territory.

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Real smart of the palestinians, start killing americans .... then their bound to hold israel back the next time. Maybe the palestinians should learn that the american's restraining israel is the only thing that stand between them and an end to their terrorist ways. Stupid stunts like this do not help their cause.

[CosmicCastaway 0]

Real smart of the palestinians, start killing americans .... then their bound to hold israel back the next time. Maybe the palestinians should learn that the american's restraining israel is the only thing that stand between them and an end to their terrorist ways. Stupid stunts like this do not help their cause.

Perhaps they perceive it the other way round. They see Americas contribution to the situation as being wholly one-sided, hence some begin to see them as targets?

Quote[/b] ]But our correspondent says there have been reports of jubilation among Palestinians in a nearby refugee camp - as they get increasingly angry at what they perceive as Washington's one-sided approach to the Mid-East crisis.

[Bernadotte 0]

Maybe the palestinians should learn that the american's restraining israel is the only thing that stand between them and an end to their terrorist ways.

America restraining Israel??  

Please tell me you are joking!!

If not then please tell us about the ways in which America restrains Israel.

(This outta be good.)

If your neighbour's pitbull terrier, all dressed up in leather and spikes, tears your dog to pieces who would you get angry with - the dog or the neighbour?

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Anyway I am not sure about the content of the fence condemnation, but I'm sure it had somehting to do with it being in a totally wrong place, since any nation is allowed to build walls as tall as the CN tower in their own territory.

"On their own territory", you just said it. Have a look at that map again...

[ran 0]

If your neighbour's pitbull terrier, all dressed up in leather and spikes, tears your dog to pieces who would you get angry with - the dog or the neighbour?

i kill the Pitbull in front of the owner , threaten him to do the same to his wife and i put heavy pressure on the back of the guy and push him into depression , mental collapse and then , suicide ...... well , at least that's what my father would do if a Pitbull had killed his good old Rommel (a 12 year old german sheppherd)

[Acecombat 0]

As i keep on saying why doesnt someone takes away their veteoing RIGHTS...

[Blake 0]

Anyway the latest attack was stupid and didn't contribute anything than piss people off. That convoy was on way to school to arrange some kind of scholar thing for Palestinian students so they could study in the US.

[Acecombat 0]

Its like first stabbing in the back and then coming around to help...

[Blake 0]

Well I still don't see justification for that cowardly act regardless what their country's foreign policy is.

[Longinius 0]

America has made itself a target. By sponsoring, and in fact keeping the Palestinians enemies in power, they of course become a target. Its not strange, nor even wrong seen from the Palestinian stand-point. It is in fact quite simple. If I have an enemy, and a third party is largely responsible for my enemies succes and livelyhood, I think I'd start targeting that third party as well at some point.

[Bernadotte 0]

Well I still don't see justification for that cowardly act...

I wish I had a penny for every time someone has come to this thread and posted a comment like this.

So once again I'll ask:  Who here is trying to justify terrorism?

If a doctor tells a patient with lung cancer that he shouldn't smoke cigarettes the doctor is only trying to help the patient understand why he is suffering.  The doctor is not trying to justify the cancer.

[Blake 0]

It was still a stupid act, even thouh US is Israeli supporter this only increases frustration and makes things harder for Palestinian politicians and US negotiators. PA has a chance to prove itself and punish the guilty ones this time. If they fail to do so it will backfire seriously.

[Bernadotte 0]

PA has a chance to prove itself and punish the guilty ones this time. If they fail to do so it will backfire seriously.

Get real, man!  How can you seriously expect the bankrupt PA under occupation to track down this terrorist when the richest nation on the planet still can't find Osama bin Laden after 2 years of hunting?  

[Blake 0]

Who's even saying they're even trying? As if they wouldn't have a clue about extremists in the own area, Gaza strip which is just few hundred square kilometers and terrorist groups operating very openly everywhere. Yet nobody knows nothing. That's just naive.

[Bernadotte 0]

Who's even saying they're even trying?

The PA.  Who's saying they are not trying besides Israel and you?

As if they wouldn't have a clue about extremists in the own area, Gaza strip which is just few hundred square kilometers and terrorist groups operating very openly everywhere. Yet nobody knows nothing. That's just naive.

Has any organisation claimed responsibility?

Do they know the terrorist's name or what he looks like?

Has the terrorist repeatedly sent videos of himself to Al-Jazeera for the past few years?

Has the FBI announced a multi-million dollar reward for info about the terrorist, yet?

So who's naive and who's brainwashed?  Or maybe you think it's ok to arrest just anyone with extremist views and stick'em in Guantanamo Bay.

[Blake 0]

Sorry I've seen so many PA fake trials against terrorists and too many empy condemnations to trust them. I don't say I trust Israelis any more than PA.

It's more likely to catch these guys which were even seen in the building nearby where the detonator wires left. I'm sure there is some more credible evidence and they will be gathered. Just raising hands in front of these attacks and making comparisons to Al-Quaida's seemingly impregnable avoidance is pointless since there is and must be much better chance in catching these guys than some international pro terrorist comparable to Carlos. PA vowed to get the guilty ones and should do so ASAP.

Did I say they should put innocents to Quantanamo bay? I just said it is not credible to investigate this matter and come up with nothing. Somebody must have seen something and there should be lots of evidence around.

[Blake 0]

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Count Bernadotte was a Swedish diplomat, fluent in six languages, who gained international recognition through his work as head of the Swedish Red Cross during World War II.

I heard that this last minute operation to save Jews from concentration camps was launched by powerfull Swedish business families to cover their lucrative businesses with Nazi Germany and that wartime Swedish foreign minister's memoirs were banned because they mentioned about this?