Nemesis6 0 Posted July 18, 2006 And what do you know? News news news - Hizballah preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon Quote[/b] ]The IDF has found that Hizbullah is preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon. Roadblocks have been set up outside some of the villages to prevent residents from leaving, while in other villages Hizbullah is preventing UN representatives from entering, who are trying to help residents leave. In two villages, exchanges of fire between residents and Hizbullah have broken out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSX 8 Posted July 18, 2006 2 Nemesis I want a video of bombing palestinian or lebanese civilians. Or do you think to be beated with stones is worse than bombed with launched rockets? Than you have very specific sense of humor, my friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deanosbeano 0 Posted July 18, 2006 Quote[/b] ]By the way, while scrolling through that long post, I saw one example: exactly and your pro israeli and you can find one example of one bad resolution/condemming.(i am sure ya gonna find more now). My point was that recently a lot of your own and others ,have excused this horror /both sides. because of a resolution not being adhered too. i was merely showing the other side of the coin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deanosbeano 0 Posted July 18, 2006 And what do you know? News news news -Hizballah preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon Quote[/b] ]The IDF has found that Hizbullah is preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon. Roadblocks have been set up outside some of the villages to prevent residents from leaving, while in other villages Hizbullah is preventing UN representatives from entering, who are trying to help residents leave. In two villages, exchanges of fire between residents and Hizbullah have broken out. and did israel let the people from gaza leave during the 3 weeks of bombing ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis6 0 Posted July 18, 2006 Three weeks of bombing? Elaborate. What are you refering to? Israel, like any other country in the world, can deny access to anyone. People don't have to leave Gaza, people have to leave Hamas and Fatah and all those government-employed people. But more importantly, Hamas and HizbAllah have to stop deliberately setting up launching sites near civilians. And HizbAllah have quite a record of doing these sorts of things. Just google for "Qana shelling". They attacked Israel from a populated area, and when the populace fled, HizbAllah followed them. Good luck comparing HizbAllah to the IDF now you sickos. Moral equivalence is disgusting. By the way, don't get up on a high horse about Russia being neutral. You've sided with Iran by giving them uranium, I suggest we leave it at this conclusion: Russia is not Iran's side. And Iran is the one supplying and supporting HizbAllah with both men, equipment, and weapons, along with Syria. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scary 0 Posted July 18, 2006 In two villages, exchanges of fire between residents and Hizbullah have broken out. Would those civilians fighting Hizbullah be the same civilians being assaulted by the IDF? Quote[/b] ]The IDF has found that Hizbullah is preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon. The rest of the world has found that the IDF, by bombing transport infrastructure, is preventing civilians from leaving villages in southern Lebanon. But at least they dropped leaflets telling people to leave on the roads they've already destroyed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garcia 0 Posted July 18, 2006 Garcia, Israel is right to ignore the U.N because they're merely a shill when it comes to Middle-Eastern politics. Nothing more. They have no authority or right to interfere when their morals are as low as they continually demonstrate they are.The funny thing is, the U.N has helped kill three Israeli soldiers and tried as hard as they could to cover it up, only to be exposed. However, they haven't started raping people down there yet as far as I know. You know, it's kind of their trademark. It's what they're known for in, oh, Africa for example. Peacekeepers? More like chastity breakers. Â Come to think of it - Remember the Jordanian "peacekeepers" in East Timor? They raped young boys. Raping boys for peace: The U.N. Or the time in Kosovo? Remember that? Jordanian peacekeeper + M16 = Massacre on friendly troops. Or the Jordanians that fired at American soldiers after an argument over the Iraq war. 1) Why am I not suprised that you seems to mostly have missed the point...? 2) Well, U.N morals is at least on level with Israel morals... 3) Oh, then if U.N got nothing to do with what's going on down there, why do Israel keep whining about the U.N resolution to disarm Hizbollah? Which leads me to the point, which you kind of have made stronger... The point is not wether or not U.Ns resolutions is right etc, the point is that Israel just gives a shit when it gains them, this probably goes for a lot of other things than the U.N resolutions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSX 8 Posted July 18, 2006 Oh...did you hear official words, said by russian's Ministry of foreign affairs? Give uranium...for peaceful targets, not for nuclear missles. Russia already said about they would not support any war programs. Forget Cold War stereotypes about "evil russians with AK, drinking vodka in Siberia". Welcome to 21st century, my friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deanosbeano 0 Posted July 18, 2006 Quote[/b] ]Three weeks of bombing? Elaborate. What are you refering to? Quote[/b] ]Israeli forces have been attacking targets in the Gaza Strip for nearly three weeks since the capture of a soldier. source Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis6 0 Posted July 18, 2006 1) Why am I not suprised that you seems to mostly have missed the point...? 2) Well, U.N morals is at least on level with Israel morals... 3) Oh, then if U.N got nothing to do with what's going on down there, why do Israel keep whining about the U.N resolution to disarm Hizbollah? Which leads me to the point, which you kind of have made stronger... The point is not wether or not U.Ns resolutions is right etc, the point is that Israel just gives a shit when it gains them, this probably goes for a lot of other things than the U.N resolutions. #1 - Because you've already labelled me as I have done to you. #2 - That's bullshit. Israel fights terror, and the U.N fights (fucks) children and aid terrorist murderers as they did in Lebanon when three Israeli soldiers were killed. Africa, the Slavic countries, etc, where the U.N are, a child will be sodomized, and Israel will be condemned. So don't even go down that road, the U.N is a mouthpiece for dictatorships as they've proven by making them an integral part of the U.N 3 - Israel is not whining, they're kicking ass right now. Right in the midst of the U.N's whining and babbling of "disproportionate" force. God I'm getting tired of that word. And speaking of the U.N, maybe you guys should look into the little episode with Kofi's son, Kojo, and just how involved he was in the oil-for-food program. You know, this was the time where the U.N shipped Yachts and fishing equipment to Iraq. And what was it exactly that at least one of Saddam's sons had as a hobby? The U.N is corrupt to the core and a mouthpiece for fascism and Islamism. There are so many examples, although the link I provided last time told some nice stories. By the way, NSX... Holy shit, you swallowed that one hook, line, and sinker didn't ya? Peaceful purposes, heh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Messiah 2 Posted July 18, 2006 kicking ass being killing 230 people... of which 30 were actually soldiers/hezbola? wow... 13% success rate... kick ass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis6 0 Posted July 18, 2006 40-50% of HizbAllah's military capabilities destroyed in 6 days as the Jerusalem Post says, I say that's some serious ass-kicking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Messiah 2 Posted July 18, 2006 not really... its david vs goliath... If I were to take a grenade to an ant hill, I'd expect to get better results than that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bordoy 0 Posted July 18, 2006 I think Israel should leave the illegally occupied Syrian Golan Heights aswell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bordoy 0 Posted July 18, 2006 40-50% of HizbAllah's military capabilities destroyed in 6 days as the Jerusalem Post says, I say that's some serious ass-kicking. Yer their 'capabilities'. Whats that.....the capability to drive down the road? Like messiah said, 13% of kills are Hezbollah, the rest are civvies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSX 8 Posted July 18, 2006 2 Nemesis6 No more than you swallow Juerusalim post's fakes.;) And yes-peacuful purposes. If you yourself think other way,than you should not present it as absolute truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis6 0 Posted July 18, 2006 The Golan Heights were used by Syria to attack Israel on numerous occasions. It is not illegal to take land from an enemy who tries to exterminate your people and destroy your country. And still Israel has withdrawn from the Gaza Strip, Lebanon, and is gonna remove the major settlements in the West Bank. NSX, when did I last quote the Jerusalem Post? I want you to answer that question. On a totally different subject, NSX, do you think I should get banned, since you've used that smilie two times now. I keep track of people who want me banned, so I'm wondering if I can squeeze you in as the fourth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSX 8 Posted July 18, 2006 Quote[/b] ]40-50% of HizbAllah's military capabilities destroyed in 6 days as the Jerusalem Post says, I say that's some serious ass-kicking. It were your words or I missed something? Something like it was said by you? Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis6 0 Posted July 18, 2006 You're right, that's my bad. The report is not from the Jerusalem Post. It's from YnetNews - http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3278026,00.html By the way, check the end of my last post. I added a little unrelated question there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bordoy 0 Posted July 18, 2006 The Golan Heights were used by Syria to attack Israel on numerous occasions. It is not illegal to take land from an enemy who tries to exterminate your people and destroy your country. And still Israel has withdrawn from the Gaza Strip, Lebanon, and is gonna remove the major settlements in the West Bank. Are you sure its not. Surely it becomes illegal when there's a UN resolution stating "the Israeli decision to impose its laws, jurisdiction and administration in the occupied Syrian Golan Heights is null and void and without international legal effect." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis6 0 Posted July 18, 2006 Are you sure its not. Surely it becomes illegal when there's a UN resolution stating... That's just it, that's what I've been saying the whole time: The United Nations have no authority to represent what they call "international law", and neither do they have the authority to enforce it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSX 8 Posted July 18, 2006 2Nemisis It's something wrong with you today, amigo. You was saying about "destroying military capabilities" and your link leads to "Hizbollah preventing civilians from evacuation"...Something I missed again?... Quote[/b] ]That's just it, that's what I've been saying the whole time: The United Nations have no authority to represent what they call "international law", and neither do they have the authority to enforce it. Tha fact it was formed for this function. As was former League of Nations after First World War. So they have such rights...just some stubborn Ilhud Olmert is obstacle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis6 0 Posted July 18, 2006 Looks like I got YnetNews tangled up into it because I had an article from there stuck in my clipboard. The report does indeed seem to be from the Jerusalem Post. But why does it matter if it's from the Jerusalem post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bordoy 0 Posted July 18, 2006 Are you sure its not. Surely it becomes illegal when there's a UN resolution stating... That's just it, that's what I've been saying the whole time: The United Nations have no authority to represent what they call "international law", and neither do they have the authority to enforce it. Who does have the authority for international law then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites