pogingwapo 0 Posted January 13, 2005 Quote[/b] ]Harry says sorry for Nazi costume Prince Harry was photographed at a friend's fancy dress party Prince Harry has apologised for wearing a swastika armband to a friend's fancy dress party. Clarence House issued a statement in response to a photograph published on the front page of the Sun newspaper under the headline, "Harry the Nazi". It read: "Prince Harry has apologised for any offence or embarrassment he has caused. He realises it was a poor choice of costume." The Board of Deputies of British Jews said the costume was in "bad taste". A spokesman said: "The board is pleased that he's apologised for the incident. "It was clearly in bad taste, especially in the run-up to holocaust memorialday on the 27th of this month, which the Royal Family will be taking a leadingrole in commemorating." The picture was taken at the weekend at a friend's birthday party in Wiltshire, which had the fancy dress theme "colonial and native". Prince Harry, 20, appears to be wearing a German desert uniform and a swastika armband. He is also holding a drink and cigarette. 'Mistake' Rabbi Dr Jonathan Romain, of the Reform Synagogues of GreatBritain, said: "The fact that the palace has issued an apology indicates that this was a mistake by the prince. "But having been given, the apology should now be accepted." But the Queen's former assistant press secretary, Dickie Arbiter, said: "This young man has got to come up front and be seen in person making an apology." Former armed forces minister Doug Henderson MP said the picture showed the prince was "not suitable" for the prestigious royal military academy Sandhurst, which he is due to attend later this year. "If it was anyone else, the application wouldn't be considered. It should be withdrawn immediately," said the Labour MP for Newcastle upon Tyne North. The prince, who is third in line to the throne, hit the headlines last year after a scuffle with a photographer at a nightclub. The Sun reported that Prince William was also at the party - dressed as a lion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lukemax 0 Posted January 13, 2005 Lol  Huh but yes em SO appaling he should be shot  its not even Prince Charles Son! where does that G****r hair come from? James hewitt maybe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ares1978 0 Posted January 13, 2005 The reaction is ridiculous. How is that costume any more tasteless than the theme "colonial and native"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 13, 2005 its not even Prince Charles Son! All in the family. Quote[/b] ]The reaction is ridiculous. Far from it. Quote[/b] ]How is that costume any more tasteless than the theme "colonial and native"? Who said anything about it being more tasteless? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ares1978 0 Posted January 13, 2005 Far from it. Yes it is. So he dressed up as a German. So what? Quote[/b] ]Who said anything about it being more tasteless? Umm.. People's reactions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 13, 2005 Far from it. Yes it is. So he dressed up as a German. So what? As a German Nazi. This is someone dressed up as a German: Quote[/b] ]Quote[/b] ]Who said anything about it being more tasteless? Umm.. People's reactions? Where did anyone compare the two types of costumes? And who wore a "colonial/native" costume? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ares1978 0 Posted January 13, 2005 As a German Nazi. This is someone dressed up as a German:[im]http://www.costumesgalore.com/costumesgalore/graphics/rental/tyrolean.jpg[/g] Umm.. No. Irrelevant really. The question still remains: "So what?" Quote[/b] ]Where did anyone compare the two types of costumes? And who wore a "colonial/native" costume? And which spawned the ridiculous reaction, his "tasteless" costume or the tasteless theme of the party? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 13, 2005 And which spawned the ridiculous reaction, his "tasteless" costume or the tasteless theme of the party? Who cares about his friend? Is he important? Does his friend stand to inherit the throne? The news here is the prince - not the paupers. As for your "so what" opinion, it strikes me as coming from either ignornace or callousness. Sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denoir 0 Posted January 13, 2005 The reaction is ridiculous. How is that costume any more tasteless than the theme "colonial and native"? Well, the whole thing could have been toung-in cheek, but the swastika is a bit over the top. Still, we really don't know the context that outfit was worn in apart from it being a costume party. The question is where the limit goes. I doubt for instance that many find Chaplin's "the Great Dictator" offensive: Furthermore, a more general question is when it's time to start considering the Nazis & Co to be historic figures rather than an actual matter of concern. For instance nobody would have objected if he had dressed up as a Stalin-era Soviet NKVD officer, although the NKVD was responsible for far more murders than Rommel's Africa corps. Why? Simply because it's considered history. Most Holocaust survivors are dead or will soon be, so it isn't really about triggering peoples' traumatic memories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 13, 2005 I doubt for instance that many find Chaplin's "the Great Dictator" offensive:]http://www.dover-web.co.uk/20thcen....] Had it been produced in 1946, it sure would have been. It was released in 1941 and it mocked Hitler. Later on, after it became apparent just what the Nazi killing machine was, Chaplin issued something of an apology that had he known at the time, he may have done otherwise. I looked for Chaplin's quote on it but couldn't find it. EDIT: Quote[/b] ]Furthermore, a more general question is when it's time to start considering the Nazis & Co to be historic figures rather than an actual matter of concern. For instance nobody would have objected if he had dressed up as a Stalin-era Soviet NKVD officer, although the NKVD was responsible for far more murders than Rommel's Africa corps. Why? Simply because it's considered history. Maybe it's because people are ignorant. Quote[/b] ]Most Holocaust survivors are dead or will soon be, so it isn't really about triggering peoples' traumatic memories. I'm a child of holocaust survivors and both my parents are living. What's your rush? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ares1978 0 Posted January 13, 2005 Who cares about his friend? Is he important? Does his friend stand to inherit the throne? Does that suit make him a Nazi? What does that make his brother then? A lion? Â Quote[/b] ]The news here is the prince - not the paupers. Exactly my point. Quote[/b] ]As for your "so what" opinion, it strikes me as coming from either ignornace or callousness. Sorry. No need to apologize. But it shouldn't strike you as either, I just feel that this fobia of everything even remotely connected to nazis is getting morbid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denoir 0 Posted January 13, 2005 I'm a child of holocaust survivors and both my parents are living.What's your rush? No rush, just asking a hypothetical question. When is the subject to be considered as history and not a sensitive topic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ares1978 0 Posted January 13, 2005 Maybe it's because people are ignorant. Yes. Either that or because they have double standards. Or, like he said, because it's considered history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 13, 2005 Who cares about his friend? Is he important? Does his friend stand to inherit the throne? Does that suit make him a Nazi? No. It makes him out to be an insensitive buffoon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted January 13, 2005 ok this thread is getting a bit too heated. closing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
