AH-64 Pack Release

[marco-polo-iv 0]

i ve checked it in ODOL Explorer, but i've complete mass 6383

you have the newest ODOL-Expolrer?

regreetz

Marco

[sanctuary 19]

To be sure that i did not used an old version, i re-downloaded just now the one from the page of the makers

And made the test with BIS, BOH and MPIV AH-64

and here are the results

MPIV Apache Longbow multirole (mpiv_ah64d_lb_blk.p3d)

Battle of Hokkaido Apache Longbow (BOHAH64DUS_AG.p3d)

BIS Apache (Apac.p3d)

Maybe ODOL_explorer 2.0 does not give the "real" result of the "complete mass" , but what is not subject to numbers is that unfortunately the MPIV AH64 is flying like a brick and is a lot less pilotable by the AI than the BIS and BOH apaches.

I hope those results can help.

[marco-polo-iv 0]

newest version of ODOL-Explorer is 2.44

Update from ODOL 2.0 to ODOL 2.44

regreetz

Marco

[sanctuary 19]

Thanks for this link, i was not aware of an updated version.

That's better now, but it is always flying like a brick

[marco-polo-iv 0]

i will test it, to lower the mass or edit config, what comes better

regreetz

Marco

[shadow 6]

Marco-Polo-IV @ April 11 2005,17:17)]i will test it, to lower the mass or edit config, what comes better

regreetz

Marco

Total mass should'nt exceed the BIS Apache. Even the BIS Apache is too sluggish and unresponsive.

I've been playing around a little with that one. Total mass of around 2700 is more apropriate. It reflects more the moves you can see it does on military and documentary movies.

Quote[/b] ]The AH64 is no match for Mi-24D in the air in a toe to toe fight. Is not built for going after it its for killing tanks, Mi24 Hinds are very deadly even to fixed winged aircraft the first chopper with confirmed jet kills.

Do you have any evidence to back that up?

Thought not.

FYI the Hind is a flying bathtub that can reach a higher topspeed, but is nowhere near as agile. As for weapon- range and precision... poop in comparrison

Amount of armour does'nt even come into it. When you're spotted, you're going down.

[Landwarrior87 0]

Quote[/b] ]The AH64 is no match for Mi-24D in the air in a toe to toe fight.  Is not built for going after it its for killing tanks, Mi24 Hinds are very deadly even to fixed winged aircraft the first chopper with confirmed jet kills.

Do you have any evidence to back that up?  

Thought not.

FYI the Hind is a flying bathtub that can reach a higher topspeed, but is nowhere near as agile. As for weapon- range and precision... poop in comparrison  

Amount of armour does'nt even come into it. When you're spotted, you're going down.

@Bobcatt

i love it when people fall flat on their face like that.. clearly i was using the comparison with the chinook unrealistically. This thing flies heavier than it should that was the whole point. Yeah and i dont see why you would call the Mi24 more agile than the Apache, just look at it.

Hope we get that update soon.

[hellfish6 7]

First helicopter-plane kill of I know was in 1976 and it was a Rhodesian Alouette III K-Car with a 20mm cannon that shot down a Botswanan scout plane, IIRC.

[Pappy Boyington 0]

When you're spotted, you're going down.

in the words of Tommy Lee Jones in Firebirds (with nicolas cage, and ironicly a movie about the AH64 Apache) "once a helo-copter battle has been engaged someone is gonna die"

[Harmed 0]

And I still, think the apaches should be retextured it is still a BISskin. would be nice If that was to be changed

[mr_rOk 0]

Marco-Polo-IV @ April 11 2005,17:17)]i will test it, to lower the mass or edit config, what comes better

regreetz

Marco

Total mass should'nt exceed the BIS Apache. Even the BIS Apache is too sluggish and unresponsive.

I've been playing around a little with that one. Total mass of around 2700 is more apropriate. It reflects more the moves you can see it does on military and documentary movies.

Quote[/b] ]The AH64 is no match for Mi-24D in the air in a toe to toe fight.  Is not built for going after it its for killing tanks, Mi24 Hinds are very deadly even to fixed winged aircraft the first chopper with confirmed jet kills.

Do you have any evidence to back that up?  

Thought not.

FYI the Hind is a flying bathtub that can reach a higher topspeed, but is nowhere near as agile. As for weapon- range and precision... poop in comparrison  

Amount of armour does'nt even come into it. When you're spotted, you're going down.

Iraqi Mi-24 is said to have shot down an Iranian F-4 with the nose cannons...

[Gedis 0]

I also know that Iranian Phantom was downed by the Iraqi Mi-24 four-gatled 12,7mm gun under the nose...

but Mi-24 is a gunship, not the anti-tank chopper...

Mi-24 should be compared by AH-1 Cobra, AH-64A/D with Mi-28A/N

[Wonder 0]

Actually there is no real counterpart in the west for the Mi-24. It's more like a flying IFV designed for "Apocalypse: Now" -style attacks.

[shadow 6]

The Hind was originally a armoured transport helo they later put weapons on. The Apache was made with tank-killing in mind before it left the drawingboard.

Quote[/b] ]Actually there is no real counterpart in the west for the Mi-24.

Actually up untill the Havoc arrived the Apache was considered the western counterpart (gunship-wise). Now that the Hind has been surpassed by the Havoc (still talking gunship, not transport) the Apache D is considered the Havoc's counterpart. No need to focus that much on the Hind anymore simply because the Havoc is so much better at the task at hand.

As for the hybrid-helo, Hind, why put all your eggs in one basket when you can spread out your escort to work independently from the transport-helo?

If the Hind-type helo is so great I'm sure uncle Sam would have made something similar long ago instead of continuing making specialized helos.

Any word on an update on this mod?

[Landwarrior87 0]

well said. Yeah i was hoping on a quick update.. This is the really only up to date apache out there.

[marco-polo-iv 0]

update is working in progress,

fixed textures fail on AH-64D and Longbow

Mapper can disable some scripts (StartCheck, Helidust, Crashsmoke)

fixed totalmass

fixed MFD (now shinig nights)

regreetz

Marco

[Harmed 0]

and a reskin?

[agent556 5]

can the MFD have maybe more of a function? so far it looked like they were just there for show.

[Jezza_NL 0]

I'm getting some trouble with this addons. Unlike its BIS counterpart it cannot be assigned multiple waypoints. It will hang around its first waypoint, and just keep on circling it. The BIS Apache will simply fly over the waypoint like any other aircraft ingame, and go on to the next one. This addon AH64 will aimlessly hover around the waypoint. Anyone have a solution?

[Bobcatt666 0]

odd they don't ain anything I have used theses units in even with BIS, BAS and my own pilot players at the controls, something telle s me you got a scrtip running somewhere.

[marco-polo-iv 0]

Version1.2 in progress

fixed:

textures error on AH-64D & AH-64D Longbow

KI Waypoint error

features:

scripts are disable for mapper

Ground Support Version added 2 AIM 9 or 4 Stinger

Versions with AIM 9

Versions with Stinger

new MFD features

regreetz

Marco

[Big Dawg KS 6]

Everything I had going, minus the models + textures:

http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27P56BSNGM6DL2MLJZ3R7PAAUR

(7 day host, contact me if it doesn't work)

Just in case you want to use it, there are some pretty nice scripts in there, like the ground taxiing script, tail rotor failure, etc...

Just be sure that if you use anything from here be sure to credit:

Kyle Sarnik - allow use of work

MrZig - help with scripting

Hope you use some stuff, I really worked hard on it and don't want it to go to waste... enjoy.

[Guest]

None of my business but here's a mirror; god I hate those 7 day day hosts :P

www.shadders.com/ofp/renamedBDAH64Filesnop3dortextures.rar

[Vit-Vit Labs 0]

Hello everyone

Marco polo IV as update is Ah-64 Pack (Ah-64A , Ah-64D ,Ah-64DLongbow)

this is the updates:

fixed:

AI Waypoint problems

Total mass know set to 2600 for better handling

MFD's are know are visible at night

textures error on AH-64D and AH-64D Longbow

Added:

new Weapons:

AIM9 Sidewinder

FIM 92 Stinger

new Units:

Ground-Support ( 76 FFAR and 2 AIM 9 Sidewinder)

Ground-Support 2 ( 76 FFAR and 4 Stinger rockets)

AIM 9 Version (6 AIM9 Sidwinder)

FIM 92 Version (12 FIM 92 Stinger)

knew bug:The Linux Server crash when you install the MPIV_AH64_me.pbo

now for downlod in Vit Labs

[shadow 6]

now for downlod in Vit Labs

Link?