USA Politics Thread - *No gun debate*

[Zipper5 74]

these people will never listen, but the day will come, and when it does come they will be surprised. Just like the economic collapse we warned them about it 8 years ago. But this time they will be surprised about bigger events that we've been telling them about even longer, but if the events do carry through they will not care at first because it only effects us, but as more and more events happen it will effect them, then the people who did prepare for it, they will be asking them for help, and i for one will not hold out my hand of helpfulness.

You. AIN'T. GOT. NO. PANCAKE MIX.

In all seriousness, take these conspiracy theories and create your own thread if you must, but this has little to do with American politics.

Edited September 9, 2010 by Zipper5

[Iroquois Pliskin 0]

I'm a liberal, Globalist, Commie, Free market proponent, NWO scum when it suits me. :)

pviera11, what you say is true in regards of history repeats itself and coup d'etats: US is on a verge of Change, genuine change - Socialism, like the current owners of the country want it.

Meh, shouldn't have built that UN bomb-target in NY with Rockefeller's money, but people had no say at that time because of the climate in the world, which was - end of War War II, hug & peace, calls for unification of the World, etc.

Edited September 9, 2010 by Iroquois Pliskin

[pviera11 10]

You. AIN'T. GOT. NO. PANCAKE MIX.

In all seriousness, take these conspiracy theories and create your own thread if you must, but this has little to do with American politics.

Has nothing to do with American Politics? I just gave you all American Politicians speaking about the New World Order, and how about you. Your not an American why the hell are you in here? Its called freedom of speech.

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I'm a liberal, Globalist, Commie, Free market proponent, NWO scum when it suits me. :)

pviera11, what you say is true in regards of history repeats itself and coup d'etats: US is on a verge of Change, genuine change - Socialism, like the current owners of the country want it.

Meh, shouldn't have built that UN bomb-target in NY with Rockefeller's money, but people had no say at that time because of the climate in the world, which was - end of War War II, hug & peace, calls for unification of the World, etc.

Im as bad as the NWO if i wasn't i would want peace not violence. Its just about who's ideology is left in the end, and i am fighting for mine.

[Zipper5 74]

So everyone outside of America is not allowed to discuss American politics, despite being the world's super power? The only reason you and I still have freedom of speech is thanks to the many who've died defending that right, yet you still call for more violence and death. So don't use the freedom of speech argument when you yourself are abusing it wholeheartedly.

If you are so awesome that you can predict all of these horrible events, why are you not trying more to stop it? Why are you not fighting for your right to survive in real life, warning the governments, the police, all these people that these events are going to happen? Instead you sit here on a forum proclaiming them to the internet. You are nothing more than a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist in that regard.

Get some help, man. You need it desperately.

[pviera11 10]

So everyone outside of America is not allowed to discuss American politics, despite being the world's super power? The only reason you and I still have freedom of speech is thanks to the many who've died defending that right, yet you still call for more violence and death. So don't use the freedom of speech argument when you yourself are abusing it wholeheartedly.

If you are so awesome that you can predict all of these horrible events, why are you not trying more to stop it? Why are you not fighting for your right to survive in real life, warning the governments, the police, all these people that these events are going to happen? Instead you sit here on a forum proclaiming them to the internet. You are nothing more than a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist in that regard.

Get some help, man. You need it desperately.

I told you who i wanted war with, but its for a simple fact, usually people from other countries don't understand anything that is going on in America.

Never said i can predict horrible events, but things are falling into place that we don't like. For now this is the only way most people can beat them is by spreading information, until then we have to wait for them to fire the first shot.

Edited September 9, 2010 by pviera11

[Zipper5 74]

We don't understand anything that goes on in southern America. :p

But then again, who does? :D

[pviera11 10]

We don't understand anything that goes on in southern America. :p

But then again, who does? :D

You don't? I could give you the whole situation and how it started.

[Laertes 10]

I told you who i wanted war with, but its for a simple fact, usually people from other countries don't understand anything that is going on in America.

Never said i can predict horrible events, but things are falling into place that we don't like. For now this is the only way most people can beat them is by spreading information, until then we have to wait for them to fire the first shot.

Out of curiosity (and this is in no-way criticism, so you know, be calm) who else is involved in 'we'?

[froggyluv 2130]

also please do not link me to the tea parties, but you probally will because you want any reason to attack them.

True, your are to the Right of them, so do you consider them Leftist and/or the Enemy also? i don't set out to attack the tea Party, i question all Anti-Gov't groups that seem to want to literally go to war with it's own people, military, cops, and Gov't. Tea Party'ers seem to flirt with the idea, while people like you express a much more concrete "Yes, I want a war".

Left Wing extremist can also be disturbing ie... the asian environmentalist that took a bomb and hostages at the Discovery Channel HQ last week. But overall, i hear much more chatter from the far right and it worries me as I consider these acts terrorism against our nation.

Speaking of which, your ideas seem remarkably similar to Timothy McVeigh, what is your opinion of him, people like him and his actions? justified?

Also have you read the Turner Diaries and do you agree with it's precepts of an upcoming race war and end of the world scenarios?

Edited September 9, 2010 by froggyluv

[Cotala Studios 10]

Ok, so i defend their right to burn the quran, and the Muslims right to burn the bible, and i automatically am an idiot? I don't believe in burning any one's holy book, we all have one god, and you are doing nothing but burning your gods words. Also because i defended the peoples rights that also makes me stupid? Sounds to me like someone has some serious issues with freedoms. Edited

You defend there right to burn books, yet you say that you don't believe in the burning of holy books? Your one of those 'tea party' i consider foreign policy 'being able to see russia from my house' people aren't you?

Also because i defended the peoples rights that also makes me stupid?

The quote was in relation to the people burning the Koran, not to you. I guess i didn't make that clear.

Sounds to me like someone has some serious issues with freedoms.

I do believe in freedoms, however I believe that they are a privelage that ought to be responsibly used. What does this jackass of a pastor think that the reaction against US and even NATO troops will be if they actually go through with it? You see the protests already. One pastor in Florida is going to cause a riot in the middle east and more of a hatred of western forces than there already is simply because he cannot use his freedom of speech responsibly, and frankly is a bigot.

[pviera11 10]

True, your are to the Right of them, so do you consider them Leftist and/or the Enemy also? i don't set out to attack the tea Party, i question all Anti-Gov't groups that seem to want to literally go to war with it's own people, military, cops, and Gov't. Tea Party'ers seem to flirt with the idea, while people like you express a much more concrete "Yes, I want a war".

Left Wing extremist can also be disturbing ie... the asian environmentalist that took a bomb and hostages at the Discovery Channel HQ last week. But overall, i hear much more chatter from the far right and it worries me as I consider these acts terrorism against our nation.

Speaking of which, your ideas seem remarkably similar to Timothy McVeigh, what is your opinion of him, people like him and his actions? justified?

Also have you read the Turner Diaries and do you agree with it's precepts of an upcoming race war and end of the world scenarios?

No i do not believe Timothys McVeighs actions were justified or right.

I believe that to fight a war you must have uniforms, structure, rank, and much more. For Example, my old milita used to have four branches, ranks, my people used to get paid, also our heavier equipment used to be old out dated soviet Russian equipment, we also had some huey's back from Vietnam. But our battle equipment, rifles, pistol, etc was up to date.

If your not part of a military then you are a guerrilla fighter or an assassin, but not a terrorist.

If you use bombs to kill civilians like Timothy Mcveigh's did, then i count you as a terrorist.

No i do not think of my self farther right then the tea partys, its just a line between they want to solve this through peace, and i am waiting for them to do so if they cant then it is time for war.

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You defend there right to burn books, yet you say that you don't believe in the burning of holy books? Your one of those 'tea party' i consider foreign policy 'being able to see russia from my house' people aren't you?

The quote was in relation to the people burning the Koran, not to you. I guess i didn't make that clear.

I do believe in freedoms, however I believe that they are a privelage that ought to be responsibly used. What does this jackass of a pastor think that the reaction against US and even NATO troops will be if they actually go through with it? You see the protests already. One pastor in Florida is going to cause a riot in the middle east and more of a hatred of western forces than there already is simply because he cannot use his freedom of speech responsibly, and frankly is a bigot.

I said they can burn qurans, and they can burn bibles, but it is stupid to burn them since christians, Muslims, and the Jewish all have the same god. But that still doesn't mean we could force them from doing so.

Also if you read my lasts posts you would see that i disagree with the tea parties.

[red oct 2]

that pastor has decided to call off the book burning event.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11255366

i don't even know why this was given so much attention. it was organized by a church of 50.

[pviera11 10]

that pastor has decided to call off the book burning event.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11255366

i don't even know why this was given so much attention. it was organized by a church of 50.

I agree, they said they were going to burn seven qurans?

[HG_Havok 10]

Bummer. Guess I'll watch football instead.

This is a great thread, lots of exposed and pissed off liberals here to play with. Unfortunately for me, I am to busy working to pay off my mortgage and the mortgages of you liberals to fully participate so I'll just pop in every so often for a good laugh at the liberals expense.

And oh yeah, I'll be back on Judgement Day +1 for sure to rub some salt in the wounds.

[froggyluv 2130]

Bummer. Guess I'll watch football instead.

This is a great thread, lots of exposed and pissed off liberals here to play with. Unfortunately for me, I am to busy working to pay off my mortgage and the mortgages of you liberals to fully participate so I'll just pop in every so often for a good laugh at the liberals expense.

And oh yeah, I'll be back on Judgement Day +1 for sure to rub some salt in the wounds.

You never answered what "Judgement Day" is - obviously you lack the courage and strength of your convictions to man up and explain this fantasy scenario of yours.

I may disagree with much of what Pviera says, but at least he has the fortitude to expain himself. And how exactly are you going to be paying for all of these European poster's morgatge's? Very generous of you :p

[Cotala Studios 10]

Bummer. Guess I'll watch football instead.

This is a great thread, lots of exposed and pissed off liberals here to play with. Unfortunately for me, I am to busy working to pay off my mortgage and the mortgages of you liberals to fully participate so I'll just pop in every so often for a good laugh at the liberals expense.

And oh yeah, I'll be back on Judgement Day +1 for sure to rub some salt in the wounds.

you do realize that the recession started with your beloved 'conservatives' in office right? :j:

watch something other than Fox and CNN http://www.reuters.com/

Edited September 9, 2010 by Cotala Studios

[Zipper5 74]

Bummer. Guess I'll watch football instead.

This is a great thread, lots of exposed and pissed off liberals here to play with. Unfortunately for me, I am to busy working to pay off my mortgage and the mortgages of you liberals to fully participate so I'll just pop in every so often for a good laugh at the liberals expense.

And oh yeah, I'll be back on Judgement Day +1 for sure to rub some salt in the wounds.

This thread is indeed quite fascinating. You see your stereotypical southern, heavily Catholic and politically motivated dooms-day declarer in many, many movies, usually to poke fun at them. Only when you start to discuss the politics of America, it seems, do you actually find out they exist. Oh, I'm not a Liberal. Do you just give the label "Liberal" to everyone you dislike? Again, you're reinforcing your stereotypes.

I don't know how you expect your God to spare you from your "Judgement Day" when you are so openly violent and aggressive. I doubt you're much different in real life. Quite funny that you think your God will kill us off but not do the same to you. Delusional, much? :p

[pviera11 10]

you do realize that the recession started with your beloved 'conservatives' in office right? :j:

watch something other than Fox and CNN http://www.reuters.com/

Again, bush was not a conservative, most people who call them selfs conservative dont even know what kind.

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This thread is indeed quite fascinating. You see your stereotypical southern, heavily Catholic and politically motivated dooms-day declarer in many, many movies, usually to poke fun at them. Only when you start to discuss the politics of America, it seems, do you actually find out they exist. Oh, I'm not a Liberal. Do you just give the label "Liberal" to everyone you dislike? Again, you're reinforcing your stereotypes.

I don't know how you expect your God to spare you from your "Judgement Day" when you are so openly violent and aggressive. I doubt you're much different in real life. Quite funny that you think your God will kill us off but not do the same to you. Delusional, much? :p

Would i be catholic to?

[froggyluv 2130]

This thread is indeed quite fascinating. You see your stereotypical southern, heavily Catholic and politically motivated dooms-day declarer in many, many movies, usually to poke fun at them. Only when you start to discuss the politics of America, it seems, do you actually find out they exist

Oh they exist all right -not only in the South but many rural, small town, and less frequently in the larger cities. The whole mindset is a by -product of the Republican PR machine -watch Fox news for a couple days, yes you'll lose a few IQ points (they'll slowly grow back) but the Right has been on an absolute flag waven, gun-totin, constitution wrapping and warping, 1776 decorum, Jesus loves us, Liberal witch hunt since the Nation elected it's first African American (really only half) Democrat. They hate Liberals more than Right Wing Islamic Terrorists (Fox even tried to label them as Liberals-lol) and would probably rather the terrorist destroy our country than to have to endure saluting ol' Glory under a democratic leadership.

Yes, our political environment is that toxic. Shame really.

[HyperU2 11]

Koran burning canceled. On to the next thing.

[Zipper5 74]

Would i be catholic to?

I would go out on a limb and say you are Agnostic. Or Atheist.

Believe me froggyluv I am well attuned to the babble that is Fox News, and the legions of mindless drones who hang on their every word. Gotta love how they still push the "Fair and Balanced" slogan. :p

[pviera11 10]

I would go out on a limb and say you are Agnostic. Or Atheist.

Believe me froggyluv I am well attuned to the babble that is Fox News, and the legions of mindless drones who hang on their every word. Gotta love how they still push the "Fair and Balanced" slogan. :p

I can happily say neither of those, i am a christian.

[Infam0us 10]

I can happily say neither of those, i am a christian.

Queue posts about the illuminati :)

[pviera11 10]

Oh they exist all right -not only in the South but many rural, small town, and less frequently in the larger cities. The whole mindset is a by -product of the Republican PR machine -watch Fox news for a couple days, yes you'll lose a few IQ points (they'll slowly grow back) but the Right has been on an absolute flag waven, gun-totin, constitution wrapping and warping, 1776 decorum, Jesus loves us, Liberal witch hunt since the Nation elected it's first African American (really only half) Democrat. They hate Liberals more than Right Wing Islamic Terrorists (Fox even tried to label them as Liberals-lol) and would probably rather the terrorist destroy our country than to have to endure saluting ol' Glory under a democratic leadership.

Yes, our political environment is that toxic. Shame really.

You say you own a business but i am highly doubting it, and if you do I'm guessing you don't make over 100 thousand yearly. You speak against capitalism more then the communists do, and any one who stands for business or any type of free market you quickly insult. So i call a lie about you owning a business or you don't make over the money you want to, so you want the government to come in, and regulate all the businesses in your field so you can have an easy way to go instead of working hard towards your goals. We also have a word for Obama its called a Mulatto

[Iroquois Pliskin 0]

You say you own a business but i am highly doubting it, and if you do I'm guessing you don't make over 100 thousand yearly. You speak against capitalism more then the communists do, and any one who stands for business or any type of free market you quickly insult. So i call a lie about you owning a business or you don't make over the money you want to, so you want the government to come in, and regulate all the businesses in your field so you can have an easy way to go instead of working hard towards your goals. We also have a word for Obama its called a Mulatto

He did say he came back to the US with only half a grand in his pocket. Returned after sippin' drinks on some Caribbean resort. He also ensured me he was not out of the loop. :cc: