Vbs1 release

[Powerslide 0]

Key features:

The ability to import your own customized units for specific training.

Wide range of tools available to create new models, worlds and scenarios.

So this mean it's editable? if yes we can just buy the standard version without addons and create them for it

Its the same as OFPR, of course it's editable. It uses the same tools like O2 and visitor. Why is there this idea that it's this new, great different game? This is ridiculous. First of all VBS is no better then OFPR, it is based on the same engine although it is tweaked out a bit. Looks like they took stuff from alot of mods, why would I buy this to use BAS units, or a LAV25 from the ADF pack that could even be ours when I could DL them for free? The price is outrageous for one, and what are you getting extra? Some addons, that's about it. Mods could match this work or better it, as I see it most the ideas came from the mods anyway. This is a last ditch cash grab, that's all it is, to compensate for the not selling as many copies to the goverments as they hoped on. Furthermore I am dissapointed to see that the OFP2 screens they released are actually from VBS1. If they would have been smart about this they would have packaged it as a massive upgrade to OFPR and sold it for $50, call it OFPR 2.00 or whatever. They would have sold a shitload more copies.

[DpS 0]

Well, love it, especially with the engine update. However why people in United States can not buy it, why the rest of the world can.

Oh I see, they dont want to train terrorist, hmm... terrorist dont fight in a conventional war. They are bunch of sissies, who like to hit and run

[SpongeBob 0]

Will missions made for OFP work/can be edited to work in VBS1?

Wouldn't it suck if you buy this and there's no public missions to use

[Indy 0]

Key features:

The ability to import your own customized units for specific training.

Wide range of tools available to create new models, worlds and scenarios.

So this mean it's editable? if yes we can just buy the standard version without addons and create them for it

Its the same as OFPR, of course it's editable. It uses the same tools like O2 and visitor. Why is there this idea that it's this new, great different game? This is ridiculous. First of all VBS is no better then OFPR, it is based on the same engine although it is tweaked out a bit. Looks like they took stuff from alot of mods, why would I buy this to use BAS units, or a LAV25 from the ADF pack that could even be ours when I could DL them for free? The price is outrageous for one, and what are you getting extra? Some addons, that's about it. Mods could match this work or better it, as I see it most the ideas came from the mods anyway. This is a last ditch cash grab, that's all it is, to compensate for the not selling as many copies to the goverments as they hoped on. Furthermore I am dissapointed to see that the OFP2 screens they released are actually from VBS1. If they would have been smart about this they would have packaged it as a massive upgrade to OFPR and sold it for $50, call it OFPR 2.00 or whatever. They would have sold a shitload more copies.

the engine is not the same, it's improved, and i think it's better create something for VBS than for a limited engine

[SFG 1]

Can user made addons currently be converted to work with vbs?

[ExtracTioN 0]

if I buy it over the net how do I know it will ship to me

And if they say that I must pay the price first and than that it will be shiped to me how long does it take how I know that it will be secure to order over the net.

Is there a option to order it and when it comes to your home you pay the money to the post bringer???

[Te kakan 0]

if i order when do i get it ?? no info on the site.... Is there a new AI that works whit the dogs ?

[Ironsight 1]

Is there a option to order it and when it comes to your home you pay the money to the post bringer???

How can I pay it, it's not the problem that I don't have the money it's just that I don't have a creditcard and I don't know what the paymate method is

[Powerslide 0]

Key features:

The ability to import your own customized units for specific training.

Wide range of tools available to create new models, worlds and scenarios.

So this mean it's editable? if yes we can just buy the standard version without addons and create them for it

Its the same as OFPR, of course it's editable. It uses the same tools like O2 and visitor. Why is there this idea that it's this new, great different game? This is ridiculous. First of all VBS is no better then OFPR, it is based on the same engine although it is tweaked out a bit. Looks like they took stuff from alot of mods, why would I buy this to use BAS units, or a LAV25 from the ADF pack that could even be ours when I could DL them for free? The price is outrageous for one, and what are you getting extra? Some addons, that's about it. Mods could match this work or better it, as I see it most the ideas came from the mods anyway. This is a last ditch cash grab, that's all it is, to compensate for the not selling as many copies to the goverments as they hoped on. Furthermore I am dissapointed to see that the OFP2 screens they released are actually from VBS1. If they would have been smart about this they would have packaged it as a massive upgrade to OFPR and sold it for $50, call it OFPR 2.00 or whatever. They would have sold a shitload more copies.

the engine is not the same, it's improved, and i think it's better create something for VBS than for a limited engine

Can you show me a full list of how it's improved exactly? I see there may be coding improvements yes, higher res textures, yes, but what is different for it?

- VBS1 uses modified Operation Flashpoint 1 engine.

Modified in what way?

[quicksand 0]

Heh,as I suspected it was Flashpoint2004.The video is extraordinary,all that I wanted OF2 to be.

I am still trying to decide whether to buy it or not.First I am going to read the review and find out if OF1 addons would work with it.

And the most important thing of all.HOW IS THE AI IMPORVED?CAN IT FIGHT IN URBAN AREAS,ENTER BUILDINGS.etc?

One other thing,is BIS considering releasing a disk pack for it with voice acted campaigns?

In any case spending this kind of money is a very important decision for me,so I am still thinking...

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Sorry, but from the video I couldnt see great improvements. All I could hope for is that the graphic card is now used in a greater way (DirectX). But besides that..well I can expect more for the money no? Better textures...? well hmm.... and paying 140 bucks for a nice Kangoroo?

[Ironsight 1]

Has anyone bought it yet

[Guest]

Hehehe. This ain't exactly E3, but certainly it's quite an announcement. Not sure if I will be rushing out to buy it, but good luck to BIS with the sales.

Hmmmm, on second thoughts maybe I will grab it soon. My private army needs some training

[Baphomet 0]

So from what I'm reading us Canucks and United state'ers can't get it?

Dammit!

My uncle works for a civilan branch of defence canada as a purchaser for supplies at the Edmonton garrison...

I wonder if I could convince him...

Nah. He thinks OFP is a crock of shit.

Dammit!

See. Where I would -not- pay for upgrading a new pc just to play regular ofp addons.

I'd but a brand spanking new machine and every single addon fucking cd I could.

The only proviso would be that I could play it via lan or something. I don't play on the internet anyhow. However without some kind of LAN capability it'd get boring.

[MrZig 0]

Well I just read the 8 pages, and it seems like VBS is just OFP with hi res textures and cute animals..

Sure it has a carrier, but OFP does too.

It has a tomahawk, look what wizzy is doing and what CoC did.

It has hi-res textures.. You won't be worrying about that whilst playing.

The only thing that would even make me consider buying this would be

A) If I was rich

B) IF they had completley redone the urban combat, and made it so you can enter buildings and stuff

C)Fixed the bouncing things and running through walls.

But even then, why not wait till OFP2 and save 500+ dollars?

Edit: Actually, what am I thinking, I would ONLY consider buying this if i was rich. Only.

[maruk 80]

I moved this topic to BI General area as VBS1 is a different product than Operation Flashpoint.

[Powerslide 0]

So from what I'm reading us Canucks and United state'ers can't get it?

Baphomet why haven't I seen you on the Canadian mod forums?

[quicksand 0]

OK thought about it some more.I think this is really bad marketing imho.

1)Why didn`t BIS make a nice presentation of if on E3 to get media attention?

2)I am almost sure that if they would have dressed this pack for civill use,making a nice campaign for it and sale it for 50$ it would have made this the most popular game in the world played everywhere.Imagine big aircrafts,walking in moving vechicles*,AI that can enter buildings and fight in urban enviroment*,join in progress*,huge islands,modern warefare in desert,snow,european enviroments.

*Not 100% sure about this features

I am no marketing genious so they are probably still aiming to make big bucks from millitary organisations.

And Maruk from what I understand from your post we are better off waiting for Operation Flashpoint 2 as this is not a product created for us?

[bedlam 0]

ive seen it and tried it.. its not that different from ofp .. sure aint worth $500 IMO.

[Ironsight 1]

ive seen it and tried it.. its not that different from ofp .. sure aint worth $500 IMO.

Have you bought it or do you have a buddy in the USMC

[NeMeSiS 11]

ive seen it and tried it.. its not that different from ofp .. sure aint worth $500 IMO.

give us more info my friend, changes in the AI, different anims, etc

[bedlam 0]

actually in swedish army.

well lets just say i wasnt that impressed...

didnt have time to check everything out.

[m21man 0]

The Swedish Army uses VBS?

[bn880 5]

ive seen it and tried it.. its not that different from ofp .. sure aint worth $500 IMO.

The problem with such statements is for whom? For personal use it is your opinion, but do you realize how much militaries normally spend on simulators that aren't 1/4 as good as this? I'm just saying, no one should put this product down for its price since it is designed and aimed at military training not entertainment.

[soul_assassin 1723]

I have some questions?

1) what does the basic VBS1 include? As i see it the Landscape 1 pack has the OFP island does that mean that the base VBS1 pack has no islands vehicles and weapons?

2) 50$ for a animal pack??    Make it at least psychological pricing like 49.95

3) Can we recompile OFP addons to be compatible with it?

4) As I understand there is no campaign mode?

5) Is multiplayer limited to LAN or the same netcode as OFP?

6) WHat about things like double gunners, rockets on cars etc?

EDIT/

oh and one more, is it me or is there wind implemented? (notice the paper in the trailer and some smoke was also moving behind buildings)