Faceless16 0 Posted April 29, 2004 First things first, thanks for the information yesterday on the questions. I have a big complaint though. I barely have any words to explain how angry I was yesterday when I tested out some new addons for a Black Hawk Down mission I want to make. The immersion factor was totally smashed and also it seemed a bit of a racial thing when my African militia RPG 7 soldier had WATERMELONS substituted for rockets!!!! What in the heck is this all about? I've looked all over for a more serious addon but havent seemed to find one. Any info on where I can get a good Militia addon would be appreciated. That was totally uncalled for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted April 29, 2004 Seems you've fallen prey to pappy boyingtons "uber cannon thingy" If you want African rebels, click my sig and look for Tonal (May also be worth checking ofp.info for the "BAS Tonal/Tango pack") Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ni-mh 0 Posted April 29, 2004 the militia pack by Bibmi is very good as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted April 30, 2004 The militia pack is full of ghosting. I dont see it being useable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asmodeus 0 Posted April 30, 2004 I've never heard the term "ghosting". What is that? Asmo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted April 30, 2004 I assume he means missing textures/white areas on the units on various LODs...a known issue with these otherwise excellent units. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drow 0 Posted April 30, 2004 The immersion factor was totally smashed and also it seemed a bit of a racial thing when my African militia RPG 7 soldier had WATERMELONS substituted for rockets!!!! that is completely obsurd and totally racist who would make such a thing, esspecially for an international game like OFP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted April 30, 2004 I've never even heard of this before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted April 30, 2004 Quote[/b] ]that is completely obsurd and totally racist Would you please explain how watermelons are a racist symbol? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted April 30, 2004 lol. Sensitive pansies...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drow 0 Posted April 30, 2004 Quote[/b] ]that is completely obsurd and totally racist Would you please explain how watermelons are a racist symbol? youre obviously a. too rich and white too know b. not an american c. too young to remember racism in this way thats the same as giving him a fried chicken machine gun its a racist thing man trust me. (its like the people in the south who once were slaves ate alot of watermellon, fried chicken and stuff... and racist jokes like this one! stem from that) i suppose it could be an honost stupid mistake, something the maker didnt understand was racist, but i doubt it. PS this maker was prolly banking on the fact you guys wouldnt pick up on it, youre all probably under 20, but i doubt he is. (and im a canadian man, you american guys should know this stuff, its your country,,,) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonko the sane 1 Posted April 30, 2004 i think u peeps are overreacting...that cool rocket propeled watermelon thingy if installed turns all RES side rpg's into a really funny looking device, personally i wish i had one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drow 0 Posted April 30, 2004 ahhh, maybe youre right, i dont want to start a gigantic fight, maybe he just really didnt know... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted April 30, 2004 Quote[/b] ](its like the people in the south who once were slaves ate alot of watermellon, fried chicken and stuff... and racist jokes like this one! stem from that) Umm, I'm aware of that, but changing all Resistance rockets to watermelons doesn't necessarily mean that they were trying to make a racist joke. If he changed all Resistance RPGs to watermelon launchers, he'd be changing a lot of completely non-African related RPG soldiers to watermelloners. I'm unaware of any Finnish or Russian watermelon jokes, do you know any? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drow 0 Posted April 30, 2004 youre a pretty bright guy i can see that (wasnt the whole point to have the "black" militia firing mellons?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted April 30, 2004 Quote[/b] ](wasnt the whole point to have the "black" militia firing mellons?) If it was a config change, then it would effect all Resistance units, "bright guy". Plus, if it was a config change, then by saying "wasnt the whole point" you're implying that you can read his mind, "bright guy". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drow 0 Posted April 30, 2004 OK argueing with you is pointless, take my opinion or leave it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted April 30, 2004 Quote[/b] ]take my opinion or leave it I'm leaving it, I don't like to go searching for racism. Are you even capable of thinking of this as just an innocent prank? Or must you assume that because stupid people used to make watermelon jokes, changing a Russian weapon to shoot watermelons is supposed to be a tasteless joke about people of African descent? Edit - And if this is a seperate addon, it would be useful for a link to it to be posted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drow 0 Posted April 30, 2004 can we ever accept racism as an innocent prank  i would say no. EDIT - i would rather edit this post than post again, in regards to the next post, PROVE it yourself man... i have work to do. ah didnt take long... "Watermelons and Aunt Jemima: SATIRE OR RACISM? Young African-American artists' use of stereotypes causes debate in black arts community" read the heading that should be enuff... http://www.sistahspace.com/backdoor/ajsatire.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted April 30, 2004 Then prove this is racist. Give me a link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted April 30, 2004 That wasn't the proof I wanted. I wanted a link to the "racist" addon. Edit - Keep in mind that Pappy's config only replaces default BIS units, and it doesn't use Tonal (Or any other African pack). The only people toting watermelons with this config are white guys, as I've never seen a black Resistance or East soldier. Oooh, look, racism! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drow 0 Posted April 30, 2004 lame, that doesnt even look like a bloody watermellon, all this for nothing... (sorry admins) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputnik monroe 102 Posted April 30, 2004 You know your comment about "your probably to rich and too white to know" is a a racisit stereo type. Hypocrite Personally I don't see any thing racist about the addon. I think your just digging to deep. You know racism still and always will exist, but at least its not in vogue any more like the 50s. Times have changed, It drives me nuts how many people claim that racism is a factor in their day to day lives. I've had black friends growing up and they even complained about it saying that they had never met a racist or been harrased for their skin color. A black friend I had even hated Chris Rock and Jesse Jackson. He said those two do more to keep racism alive than the Ku Klux Clan. He said when the Klan talks every one laughs at them and their ingnorance but when Chris Rock and Jesse talk every one becomes convinced there is a massive epidemic of racism tearing the nation apart and that white people and black people don't get along and never will. He said Chris Rocks humour is valueless and only fosters distrust and hate between blacks and whites. Personally I agree with him. Drow basically I'm just saying chill out. Believe it or not The vast majority of people are not racist. Watermellons are just funny fruit (or is it a vegtable?), not a religous icon of the Ku Klux Klan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted April 30, 2004 This is about watermelons in OFP, not about racism. Stay on topic or have this thread locked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drow 0 Posted April 30, 2004 You know your comment about "your probably to rich and too white  to know" is a a racisit stereo type. Hypocrite well i meant that about kids who werent ever subject to anything remotely resembling racism, who probably never knew a black person growing up, and lived in all white communities far far away from the inner city problems... Racism is real, I have been friends with many black people in my time, and its real for them... every day. Have you ever been pulled over 3 times in one day for being yourself? sorry admins i wont reply anymore in here, the thing turned out to not even be a watermelon i would say... looks like "spongebob square pants" (cartoon guy :P) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites