Student uprising in the 60's

[Llauma 0]

I am doing some school work which includes the student uprising in USA in the 60's.

So I came across the statement from 1962 made by Students for a Democratic Society. I found it very interesting though it's pretty long..

It's seems like not much have changed.. most of the issues are still being fought for even though it's the student generation that has the power today.

So the question is will USA ever change or are the forces that wants to preserve the current situation simply too powerful?

It certainly seems like that as not even as strong youth movement as there was in the 60's seems to have made a dent on the system.

*This is propably pretty off topic for the most but I recommend you too read the statement... at least I enjoyed it but I might just be weird.

[shinRaiden 0]

My mom was a teenager back then, and she thought they were all potheads. My dad is an engineer, nothing gets through to him. So I really don't know much except that there is this 'never again' "Vietnam" bogeyman in american society.

The reason for it lingering I think is it is the same people running the show now. Bill Clinton, GW, John Kerry, Colin Powell, they were all doing something with vietnam as the kids in the streets. Now they're running things, and keep coming back to that era as their defining moment.

Today though, I think there is publicly more apathy, but I don't know about actual numeric reality. Political organizations are particularly suspect for inflating numbers and prominence.

[MonkeyGoat 0]

I know it's not the same incident, but you can draw parallels with the French protest of 1968 which did have a major impact on their society. Of course France and the USA are two very different societies so I don't know how applicable the French case could be .

[toadeater 0]

So the question is will USA ever change or are the forces that wants to preserve the current situation simply too powerful?

It's not going to change because the forces in 'control' of the situation play all sides to stay in power. They're not just from one party, or even one country. They stay in power by pitting all the have-nots against each other.

There are those in power who want to maintain their power, and those that want to gain power. That's what really drives this world, everything else is a symptom of this conflict.

I think the only way this will change is if some kind of third-party could mediate things, like Vulcans or something. But that's not going to happen, so we're doomed. The conflicts will eventually boil over and someone is going to get nuked, it's only a matter of time.

[IsthatyouJohnWayne 0]

Right, i suggest it would be prudent to start increasing velocity towards areas of higher elevation then...

Anyway, how were a bunch of hippies ever going to change anything? Everybody knows hippies are lazy!

Thats why Dubya Bush is the president of the USA. Through his good honest hard work ( eg successfully exiting his mothers womb, not ODing on cocaine or alcohol in his youth, mostly not draft dodging at all etc).

[Llauma 0]

Right, i suggest it would be prudent to start increasing velocity towards areas of higher elevation then...

Anyway, how were a bunch of hippies ever going to change anything? Everybody knows hippies are lazy!

Thats why Dubya Bush is the president of the USA. Through his good honest hard work ( eg successfully exiting his mothers womb, not ODing on cocaine or alcohol in his youth, mostly not draft dodging at all etc).

Hippies were educated college students eg. normally those who will enherit the power but hey this is USA and Bush is their best choise. Okay, he did go to a fine school but that's because he bought it. He had the money and the name so it would have been strange if he wouldn't had become the president.

[SpongeBob 0]

Anyway, how were a bunch of hippies ever going to change anything? Everybody knows hippies are lazy!

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[Apollo 0]

I think most of the ideoligy's of the Hippy's have never seen reality simply because they are not compatible with many facet's of capitalism.If certain animal species get extinct ,then it's mostly because there is a shitload of money to be earned with that ,and the money to preserve it usually doesn't outweight the effeciancy of the pouchers.Same goes with preservation of ecoligy ,it is green boys versus big bussiness ,but big bussiness is that much more powerfull than those green boys ,and a lot more agressive to.

Same goes for war ,all the hippy's can do is protest ,but for big bussiness war often means big income.

in a capitalist country: money=power ; it is logical that big bussines has a multitude of funds compared to green boys or hippy's.In addition hippy's have so many ideoligy's that don't help them in power really ,idea's of pacifism and non-corruption don't really help you forward that much compared to Big bussiness wich could be preppared to use violence ,use funds to corrupt politician ,use fancy laywers in expensive cases ,etc etc and other aggressive act's to get their advantage above those hippy's.

It's simple if you look at the U.S.A ,big bussiness has already donated over 1.000.000.000$ to Bush for his election campaign.Hippy's can't spare that kind of money ,i bet they don't even want to be that rich.Was you surprized when Bush about disbanded the Kyoto protocol ,or gave many exploitation contract's in Iraq to those people that funded him in his ellection?

[Scorpio 0]

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