Us presidential election 2004

[blackdog~ 0]

Those are my war scars!

That post was much an improvement over the others ;)

[ralphwiggum 6]

The education system has failed you.

That's why we have no child left behind, though I find it sad that unappreciative people such as yourself will/would be in this program as well

i thin you should have learned your lesson by now but you didn't.

[BoweryBaker 0]

I admit, if I were one of those people in Iraq under Saddams dictatorship I would definitely be worried that my kids would be raped or my wife, or that my house could be broken into and that i'd be beaten up. I'd want that guy out of power. Its just like if you lived under a parent who molested you, wouldn't you want someone to rescue you because none of the kids are powerful enough to do it themselves? Same thing. So I commend Bush on sending our boys to war on one hand, on the other hand I thought that offering citizenship would have been enough. The thing that surprised me about Bush is him saying that he was going to hit Cuba next. That really struck a nervous chord in me because those guys are pretty close to America. Honestly though, the underground railroad worked for blacks, i don't see why it can't work for Iraqis. No Africans mass invaded America to set the slaves free, we ran through the woods and got help from Canadians and northerners to escape cruelty. I honestly don't think that military force was the best option for Iraq. We got SEALs, we got DELTAS, all of them badboys to actually get in there and evacuate people behind enemy lines. It makes a better option, less casualties too. I should be in politics, Lord why not me?

[edc 0]

Kerry and Edwards want to look like they are not wealthy, however that couldn't be farther from the case.

http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1971461

I don't know about you but I would hardly call a billionaire poor.

Kerry also wants to appear like he's an outsider from Washington, but in reality he's been heavily involved in far-left politics for decades. Its sad that many people aren't capable of seeing through these and the other lies from Kerry and Edwards.

Edwards is a lawyer for christs sakes. He's the person who makes money off of frivolous lawsuits that increase medical costs and possibly even worse than that, is that in the few legitimate lawsuits, the victims don't even get that much of the money because the lawyers charge such astronomical fees.

These would be just about the last people any sane person could want in the White House.

[EiZei 0]

Edwards is a lawyer for christs sakes.

So was Lincoln FYI.

Is this the best GOP can still come up with? "Kerry umm.. he has lot of money and edwards is a lawyer and .. uh.. nobody likes lawyers right? BUSH FOR 2004!"

[BoweryBaker 0]

@ eizei: LOL. GOOD MAN. Those aren't very good reasons to say he shouldn't be president. Bush has the idea of what a president should do, but when it comes to putting in his two cents on how its to be done he doesn't exercise it. I mean, full scale invasion of two countries at the same time? Come the hell on. Our militaries aren't as big as China or North Korea. He should have done the underground railroad idea i mentioned earlier. You didn't see Africans training slaves on how to throw a spear, no, you had slaves helping each other free themselves, free people even help, white people even helped, mostly from the north like Canada n stuff. It was successful so why don't we do it again, Bush?!

[edc 0]

Back in Lincoln's day people didn't sue for spilling coffee on their lap, or because a school kicks them out after they plagarized, and lawyers didn't encourage them. At one time being a lawyer was an honorable thing, when lawyers prosecuted the criminals and defended the innocent, however that day has passed.

This isn't the Iraq or War on Terror thread, but I think there was no question we needed to go into Afghanistan, and there was ample reason to go into Iraq. You can't fault Bush because the CIA did a poor job collecting intel. I wouldn't be surprised if Tenet's "resignation" came with some encouragement(privately of course, nobody is every fired or publically humiliated when losing their job in Washington) from the Bush administration.

[BoweryBaker 0]

"One rotten apple doesn't spoil the bunch." ~ famous american anecdote

[EiZei 0]

Back in Lincoln's day people didn't sue for spilling coffee on their lap, or because a school kicks them out after they plagarized, and lawyers didn't encourage them. At one time being a lawyer was an honorable thing, when lawyers prosecuted the criminals and defended the innocent, however that day has passed.

Is there any real evidence that Edwards had any cases of that kind?

[Gollum1 0]

Back in Lincoln's day people didn't sue for spilling coffee on their lap, or because a school kicks them out after they plagarized, and lawyers didn't encourage them. At one time being a lawyer was an honorable thing, when lawyers prosecuted the criminals and defended the innocent, however that day has passed.

I'm sure Edwards has made billions off spilled coffee, and lawyers are evil in their DNA. Please, you've got to come up with something better than that.

[der bastler 0]

This isn't the Iraq or War on Terror thread, but I think there was no question we needed to go into Afghanistan,

Yeah? Why? And if yes, why not earlier?

Quote[/b] ]and there was ample reason to go into Iraq. You can't fault Bush because the CIA did a poor job collecting intel.

Hello, wake up! There were a lot of countries warning TBA of going to war. Several intel services doubted the CIA intel info.

So if you can't trust your intel (what's perfectly know to everybody --look at US war history... Pearl Harbour, Korea, Vietnam) you better consider other countries' informations not to be that bad at all.

But OK, if one wants war...

For Al-Quaida: Now that's an impressive enemy. You can't get hands on them, you just see terrorists loosely affiliated to them go boom. That's two years of US presence in Afghanistan now but Usama Bin Laden is still on the run shooting holiday videos. Incompetency? Or intention?

*PATRIOTISM (COMMERCIAL)*

MALE VOICE: What makes a real American? A cowboy hat? Enjoying a fine T-bone steak? Going to a baseball game? Shooting a gun? Maybe it's the freedom to go into a poor country and tell them how to do things?! Heh! Those are all great qualities! But one thing that makes a true patriot is the ability to choose an American car! When you buy an import you take a hot meal off a hard working American's table. (Baby cries) There, there! This poor girl is going to starve to death, just because you bought a cheaper, more efficient Maibazu. Without gross symbols of excess, what will Americans have to look up to? Our great industries is a threaten! Cars, pornography, armaments! And they need your help! So the next time you buy a car, a piece of adult literature or a missile defense system! Make sure you do the American thing!

I hope this fun ad is still satire and not reality. On the other hand... WKetchup (I still can't believe that it's not a fake), childish behaviour, even more childish behaviour (but of course that's not an official page)

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

BTW I saw Bill Clinton yesterday. He came to Berlin to promote his book and visited a bookshop in the center. Hell even though he isnt the president anymore he still came with about 7 cars of which 2 were basically tank-like jeeps. This is Berlin not Mogadishu. But I was surprised, he is much taller and looks much stronger than I imagined!

(no kiddin, I was realy around when he left the store)

[denoir 0]

Second, I think it very well explains itself - Edwards is just out there to make money. He does not care about the people who cannot find doctors to deliver babies. He does not care that he is making many doctors get out of the practice. He is a scumbag, and that's all I need to say and that's all you need to know.

You mean unlike Bush who was in the oil business so that he could help the poor bin Ladens... wait..they're not so poor... Well, I'm sure he had an all altruistic intent for the millions of Saudi money he got.

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Now I've seen Kerry doing the following things for the sake of attention and public image:

Rode a Harley

Went clay shooting

Played the guitar

Went skiing

Yet, he's a poser at it all. I doubt he has any interest in motorcycles (not because he can't afford it, he's a millionare y'know), he is against guns (believe I saw somewhere that he voted on over 50 legislations against guns as a senator and junior senator), he's played the guitar (totally far out dude!), and he's went skiing, and even then he got 'knocked down' and then cussed at a secret service agent for doing it!

That bastard! How dare he!

Unlike the brave man Bush who poses for picture golfing, horse back riding, hunding and sweeping his ranch porch.

[Balschoiw 0]

Quote[/b] ]Unlike the brave man Bush who poses for picture golfing, horse back riding, hunding and sweeping his ranch porch.

...and having some very good knowledge in foreign countries   and their position on the globe.

Quote[/b] ]"Do you have blacks, too?"

- Bush to Brazilian President Fernando Henrique Cardoso as reported in Der Spiegel. Condoleeza Rice interceded explaining that Brazil has the greatest number of black citizens of any nation outside of Africa.

He has excellent knowledge about his own country to offer:

Quote[/b] ]THERE'S AN OLD SAYING IN TENNESSEE -- I KNOW IT'S IN TEXAS, PROBABLY IN TENNESSEE...THAT SAYS, FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON...SHAME ON YOU. FOOL ME...YOU CAN'T GET FOOLED AGAIN. [9/17/2002]

Is very tolerant towards religions:

Quote[/b] ]"I THINK IT'S FINE, AS LONG AS IT'S CHRISTIAN PRAYERS. ANYTHING ELSE IS UN-AMERICAN."

And never hesitates to comment things in a funny and lively way:

Quote[/b] ]HE [bUSH] RECALLED THE LAST TIME HE WAS IN FLORIDA, ON THE MORNING OF SEPT. 11, AND WHAT WENT THROUGH HIS MIND WHEN THE FIRST PLANE HIT NEW YORK'S WORLD TRADE CENTER: "I USED TO FLY MYSELF, AND I SAID, 'WELL, THERE'S ONE TERRIBLE PILOT.'"

--ASSOCIATED PRESS, DEC. 4, 2001

In my opinion G.W Bush is the biggest idiot that resided in the White House ever.

Want more ?

Stupid Bush quotes

[bn880 5]

BTW I saw Bill Clinton yesterday. He came to Berlin to promote his book and visited a bookshop in the center. Hell even though he isnt the president anymore he still came with about 7 cars of which 2 were basically tank-like jeeps from. This is Berlin not Mogadishu. But I was surprised, he is much taller and looks much stronger than I imagined!

(no kiddin, I was realy around when he left the store)

BulletProof Vest

[Akira 0]

It's amazing how many people just swallow the crap that is fed to them. Have any of you actually looked up Edwards' career?

Quote[/b] ]I'm sure Edwards has made billions off spilled coffee, and lawyers are evil in their DNA. Please, you've got to come up with something better than that.

Quote[/b] ]Back in Lincoln's day people didn't sue for spilling coffee on their lap, or because a school kicks them out after they plagarized, and lawyers didn't encourage them. At one time being a lawyer was an honorable thing, when lawyers prosecuted the criminals and defended the innocent, however that day has passed.

Take a look at this:

Quote[/b] ]Senator John Edwards, the North Carolina lawyer running for president, built a career out of winning historic jury awards for children who suffered birth defects allegedly because doctors mishandled their deliveries

Doesn't sound like "spilled coffee" to me. His awards were indeed some of the largest from his cases, keeping about 1/3 of awards as his fee.

Quote[/b] ]Edwards is a lawyer for christs sakes. He's the person who makes money off of frivolous lawsuits that increase medical costs and possibly even worse than that, is that in the few legitimate lawsuits, the victims don't even get that much of the money because the lawyers charge such astronomical fees.

Possible baby defects due to possible doctor negligence is frivolous?

And again. He kept about 1/3 or less for fees. That 2/3 at least for the victim. That's not very much?

Quote[/b] ]Kerry and Edwards want to look like they are not wealthy, however that couldn't be farther from the case.

They have never tried to hide their wealth.

And where is your indignation that 3 of the top current administration officials are from major oil companies and/or backgrounds, and have taken us to war in an oil rich country?

By the way:

Bush=Millionaire

Cheney=Millionaire

Rumsfeld=Millionaire

Rice=Millionaire

Also for your information Kerry and Edwards voted against the Bush tax cuts which would have benefited themselves.

Quote[/b] ]Its sad that many people aren't capable of seeing through these and the other lies from Kerry and Edwards.

Not as sad as the people that swallow whatever the Bush camp gives them. Try critically thinking.

Baaaaa......Baaaaaa.....

[DB-ERAUPilot 0]

Well, there isn't a person on this planet that hasn't lied about something...atleast Kerry and Edwards lies haven't cost the lives of hundreds of brave men and women...I'll take a WAR HERO and former trial lawyer over that ANYDAY

[Gollum1 0]

It's amazing how many people just swallow the crap that is fed to them. Have any of you actually looked up Edwards' career?

Don't quote me.

[sarcasm]my post[/sarcasm]

More understandable now?

[Schoeler 0]

It's amazing how many people just swallow the crap that is fed to them. Have any of you actually looked up Edwards' career?

Quote[/b] ]I'm sure Edwards has made billions off spilled coffee, and lawyers are evil in their DNA. Please, you've got to come up with something better than that.

Quote[/b] ]Back in Lincoln's day people didn't sue for spilling coffee on their lap, or because a school kicks them out after they plagarized, and lawyers didn't encourage them.  At one time being a lawyer was an honorable thing, when lawyers prosecuted the criminals and defended the innocent, however that day has passed.

Take a look at this:

Quote[/b] ]Senator John Edwards, the North Carolina lawyer running for president, built a career out of winning historic jury awards for children who suffered birth defects allegedly because doctors mishandled their deliveries

Doesn't sound like "spilled coffee" to me. His awards were indeed some of the largest from his cases, keeping about 1/3 of awards as his fee.

Quote[/b] ]Edwards is a lawyer for christs sakes.  He's the person who makes money off of frivolous lawsuits that increase medical costs and possibly even worse than that, is that in the few legitimate lawsuits, the victims don't even get that much of the money because the lawyers charge such astronomical fees.  

Possible baby defects due to possible doctor negligence is frivolous?

And again. He kept about 1/3 or less for fees. That 2/3 at least for the victim. That's not very much?

Quote[/b] ]Kerry and Edwards want to look like they are not wealthy, however that couldn't be farther from the case.

They have never tried to hide their wealth.

And where is your indignation that 3 of the top current administration officials are from major oil companies and/or backgrounds, and have taken us to war in an oil rich country?

By the way:

Bush=Millionaire

Cheney=Millionaire

Rumsfeld=Millionaire

Rice=Millionaire

Also for your information Kerry and Edwards voted against the Bush tax cuts which would have benefited themselves.

Quote[/b] ]Its sad that many people aren't capable of seeing through these and the other lies from Kerry and Edwards.

Not as sad as the people that swallow whatever the Bush camp gives them. Try critically thinking.

Baaaaa......Baaaaaa.....

As someone on the way to law school, I'm astounded by how many people buy into the anti-lawsuit rhetoric being put out by big business and their trained monkey bought and paid for politicians. Look up the statistics people, the frivolous suits garner a lot of publicity, but they are far outweighed by the legitimate and rarely publicized suits that occur every day where trial lawyers defend the weak from large and negligent money hungry corporations and incompetent government agencies. The ridiculuous suits are a minsicule percentage of the total and are a small price to pay for citizens not being bullied around by billionaires and corporate monoliths that can pay to have their poltical agendas enacted.

Without those trial lawyers and lawsuits, what happens the next time an Enron ruins your retirement?

What happens the next time Exxon dumps 6 million gallons of oil on your beach?

What happens when the local chemical company dumps toxins into the groundwater supply and your kids are born with birth defects or your wife dies from lymphoma?

Trial lawyers are not the enemy folks, the enemy are the people whose anti-lawyer rhetoric you bought hook line and sinker without so much as one analytical thought that it may be propaganda designed to protect those who need no protection.

[Akira 0]

It's amazing how many people just swallow the crap that is fed to them. Have any of you actually looked up Edwards' career?

Don't quote me.

[sarcasm]my post[/sarcasm]

More understandable now?

Sorry about that...didn't mean to quote yours.

[adrenaline red 0]

Kerry=billionaire.

[DB-ERAUPilot 0]

Kerry=billionaire.

point being

[adrenaline red 0]

Just find it odd that people fail to mention this and only mention tha fact that other politicians are mere milionaires.

[DB-ERAUPilot 0]

Just find it odd that people fail to mention this and only mention tha fact that other politicians are mere milionaires.

ok.... yep he's rich...what's your point? he didn't earn his money through the drug cartel or some other shady means..who cares...my goodness you Bush fanboys better come up with a better argument than that before the debates start

[adrenaline red 0]

You dont find it hypocritical of him giving us all thes lectures on "benidict arnold companies", saying he understands the poor, wanting to tax the rich, etc, when he's dirt rich himself?

I find it very hypocritical of him to blast "benidict arnold" companies, and the rich when hes no better.