Csla 2

[MAA 127]

@the_shadow:

There is little updated MT-LB (by Marfy and PSC) include CSLA II. MOD. In editor they are under RUS, CSLA and FIA sides.

[Status_cz 0]

is there anyway to use the CSLA 2 addons without the config that alters the game?

i cant get the mod to work with Marfy's and maac's MTLB pack...

Or use CSLA RIP ,if you dont like CSLA mod settings etc.

[the_shadow 0]

well.. unfortunatley that dont help me edit a mission and add CSLA units when i have used MTLB´s that is not from CSLA :/

so when i try to edit the mission i get "missing addon MTLB"

is it a simple way around that?

[edit] Using the CSLA_rip still gives me the message "missing addon MTLB"

what should i rename them to in the mission.sqm file?

[MAA 127]

There is list of all definitions in CFG in Update to 2.02.

Llist of definitions

[the_shadow 0]

thanks, just what i need for this

[Bobby - CSLA team 0]

CSLA team participated on so called "CSLA day" in Orechov on 2.10.2004. This event has been organised by Club of Military History - CS and CSLA studio team has been invited for participation.

CSLA team used this opportunity to collect great bunch of materials such as real sounds of weapons (SA-58, UK-59), real sounds of vehicles (BMP, MTLB, T-55) as well as many photos of CSLA equipment. Great guys from KVH allowed us to shoot their weapons and participate in some of the exercises. CSLA team members played important role in exercise showing crossing border line of former Czechoslovakia, famous "Iron Curtain", as a group of border line intruders. Althought all of us were captured by frontier guard units, after fierce exchange of fire, we enjoyed it very much.

Our presence on this event is documented by following pictures:

"Bobby fires from SA-58"

"Red CSLA team advances during exercises"

"Briefing of both teams before battle"

"Flag ceremony"

We have found interesting problem during processing materials collected during CSLA day. It rose a lot of dicussion inside the CSLA team.

We have real pics of aiming device of SA-58 and UK-59. We have found that there are two options how to depict aiming device. Either to show closer part of aiming devise blured (as it can be seen in reality) or sharpened (which looks better). We would like to ask community for oppinions.

Here are pics for reference:

Blured "real" aiming device

Sharpened "nice" aiming device

Sorry, I have linked wrong version of pics, initially. Hope it's better now.

[Placebo 29]

Bobby good job with the pics

I vote for sharpened, less realistic but looks very nice

Although on second thoughts I can see the "sharp" version being distracting in the heat of battle?

[Wicked 0]

I vote for sharpened, less realistic but looks very nice

I vote for realistic blurred but the sharpened aiming device looks very cool too. why not make an option for users? Put in whatever aiming device in final package and make a small addon package for users who like different aiming device. That would be great!

Cheers!

[the_shadow 0]

i vote for realistic blurred aiming device, the focused ones will be to distracting (you´ll look at the details of the rear sight instead of looking for the enemy)  

[hellfish6 7]

Realistic blurred.

[Jezz 0]

i want to be difficult and say somewhere between the two blurred is to blurred and sharp is to sharp looking

[cozza 24]

I voted for Sharp. Just looks real.

Hope u had fun and got alot of Information CSLA team needs for the mod. And did your team makes there own CSLA shirts or did u just recieve them

[Bobby - CSLA team 0]

Yes, we enjoyed a lot of fun, especially in role of border intruders . One of the results are these new sights another new sounds we captured there.

We have made our own team T-shirts for all members. We use them on every CSLA team event.

This image is taken on "Tank day" in Lesany Czech army technical museum.

[hellfish6 7]

Is that a pink JS-II?

[Bobby - CSLA team 0]

Yes, this is pink JS-II standing near the gate. Before 1989 it used to stay in Prague as a memorial of Prague Liberation in 1945.

[Tozmeister 0]

Realistic blurred. bit of an optical illusion but the sharpened version concentrates the eye on the foreground to much.

nice pink tank.....?

[Jezz 0]

stupid question but why is it pink?

[ThudBlunderQ8 0]

I vote for the Blurred-with-sharp-foresight version - much more useful. Heck, when you're as old as I am everything less than about 0.5m away is blurred anyway...

[Edge 2]

stupid question but why is it pink?

It used to stand on a stone pedestal in Prague, as a monument of liberation of Prague by The Red Army, as Bobby said. Most people understood it as another demonstration of communist and Soviet prevalence in the country.

After so-called Velvet Revolution in 1989, group of artists painted it pink, just to show the old times of pro-Soviet warmongers are over. I am not sure about the whole story, I guess it was painted once, washed, then painted again several years after - I am no specialist on modern history of Czech Republic

[Placebo 29]

http://www.aleksandramir.info/texts/gibbs.html

Quote[/b] ]This symbol of aesthetic-political subversion dates back to 1968, when Soviet tanks rolled into the Czech capital to crush the Prague Spring. They mounted one of their T-34s on a pedestal in the city's central square—supposedly as a memorial to the Russian soldiers who had liberated the population from the Nazis back in 1945, but in practice to remind the locals that Moscow didn't take kindly to anyone 'reforming' Communism. Local artists were less impressed, however, and painted it pink.

Most people know the monument from its second incarnation, created by artist David Cerny to celebrate the Velvet Revolution. He tried the trick again in 2001, with a new tank. Wary now of souring relations with Russia in the brave new post-Soviet Europe, the authorities resisted. The pink tank lives on in Prague only as a souvenir t-shirt. Here, we have Stompie.

[Edge 2]

Thanks a lot, placebo! Very nice to see foreigner to know so much about one's country

::Edge stops messing with Czech version of Google to find the truth about the pink tank::

[Bobby - CSLA team 0]

So, poll continues, what sights would you prefer? See materials on page 59.

Blured "real" one or "sharp" nicer?

Blured "real" aiming device

Sharpened "nice" aiming device

[adumb 0]

i like the sharpened one more

[gandalf the white 0]

i like the sharpened one more

same, but blurred is more relistic (as you focus on that)....

i vote blurred , but you can release the sight as a optional texture perhaps? executed by this setsexture something?

or just make the options MG- blurred and MG - sharp and nice options for the weapon firing modes and get over with it!

[JdB 151]

i like the sharpened one more

Same here.

But realistic = better.

Dunno which one to choose