Csla 2

[Tomislav 0]

Quote[/b] ]If they said from the beginning, that it's gonna be VBS1-only, I wouldn't say a word

Mod teams working on vbs addons arent allowed to say a word about it. There's a gag order on disclosing anything.

This thread shouldnt keep going this way peepz. It will get closed.

yes, if it goes on like this it will, although i agree with them in every point; we should give maa a chance to answer before the thread is no longer available

[stgn 39]

Beta testers for OFP2 eh?

OFP2 is not going to be anything like VBS1 , VBS1 is the same as OFP 1.96 or 1.85 as someone whos worked on it told me. If OFP2 is going to be like VBS1 thats going to be a major let down.

I woulden't be so sure I just saw the latest and greatest for VBS which includes multible firepositions(more guns mounted on virchles. and you can fire out of virchles with you own handgun, it also has gotten destroyable buildings, more advanced fatigure model and more advanced AI. And I surtanly hope OFP2 will be "like" OFP1.

But I agree VBS has meant that some of the thinges that could have made OFP even better now is lost to the VBS elite.(its a good thing VBS is only 5km away for me, thank god for crazy friends)

STGN

[hardrock 1]

They're some keen eyes AgentSmith! It would be a shame if the island did only go to VBS1, but maybe (although i realise unlikely), Lacerta is still on for OFP, and they have simply used some of the objects from it in the new Terrain pack for a different island, and the Lacerta and its objects will still be released for OFP??

I don't think so. There are also other people that changed to developing for VBS for some money, and since they are under contract and all their work gets selled, there's no possibility for them to release it freely (who would buy anything that's available for free. . .)

I woulden't be so sure I just saw the latest and greatest for VBS which includes multible firepositions(more guns mounted on virchles. and you can fire out of virchles with you own handgun, it also has gotten destroyable buildings, more advanced fatigure model and more advanced AI

What you see in these newly released videos is all possible in OFP too, remember that, so it's no uber-OFP or pre-OFP-2. The destructable buildings are possible as Col. Klink showed us with DIB, you can see in the videos that the multiple gunner positions are only setposed (at least the soldiers standing in back of the truck) since they aren't completely fixed in their position, they move slightly around.

You can do all that stuff for OFP, so don't get that excited about VBS just because BIA hired some addon makers to do things that were initially planned (and possible) for OFP.

[MontyVCB 0]

Beta testers for OFP2 eh?

OFP2 is not going to be anything like VBS1 , VBS1 is the same as OFP 1.96 or 1.85 as someone whos worked on it told me. If OFP2 is going to be like VBS1 thats going to be a major let down.

I woulden't be so sure I just saw the latest and greatest for VBS which includes multible firepositions(more guns mounted on virchles. and you can fire out of virchles with you own handgun, it also has gotten destroyable buildings, more advanced fatigure model and more advanced AI. And I surtanly hope OFP2 will be "like" OFP1.

But I agree VBS has meant that some of the thinges that could have made OFP even better now is lost to the VBS elite.(its a good thing VBS is only 5km away for me, thank god for crazy friends)

STGN

i would like to add to that, its no config made to get around limitations, the new changes are HARD coded from what i have been told.... these new features work in a different way than the ways other addon makers have done to get more than one gunner etc

[hardrock 1]

these new features work in a different way than the ways other addon makers have done to get more than one gunner etc

How would you know?

[ag_smith 0]

If that's how it's gonna work in the future (I mean soldiers standing on 5T truck), I'm disappointed.

[MontyVCB 0]

im not at liberty to say

[Acecombat 0]

im not at liberty to say

LOL did you learn this trick from Ashcroft

I agree with Blake though VBS might have dented OFP's addon making community a bit , but definitely not the nail in the coffin. Quite a few have left but they did give us something before leaving and only left a void meant to filled by others inspired by their work. Its like pruning you cut a bit of grass and in a few days its back up.

[MontyVCB 0]

im not at liberty to say

LOL did you learn this trick from Ashcroft  

I agree with Blake though VBS might have dented OFP's addon making community a bit , but definitely not the nail in the coffin. Quite a few have left but they did give us something before leaving and only left a void meant to filled by others inspired by their work. Its like pruning you cut a bit of grass and in a few days its back up.

might of ,whos askin

[Ironsight 1]

I agree with Blake though VBS might have dented OFP's addon making community a bit , but definitely not the nail in the coffin. Quite a few have left but they did give us something before leaving and only left a void meant to filled by others inspired by their work. Its like pruning you cut a bit of grass and in a few days its back up.

That was me, not Blake saying that

But what I am worried about is that it's going to be a nail to the coffin since we see more and more people either leaving (most of them talented addon makers) the community or moving to VBS

[USSR-=SpETZNaTZ 0]

MAA ive got a ?, would it be ok to use some of your scripts, to use in a mission of mine iam making, like your napis.sqs,and some others??? Its going to be a mission where its going to require your excellent hinds and other units ;)

[offtime 0]

lets see....

1. we have OFP, we have VBS1

2. VBS1 was build on OFP

3. OFP2 is in development stage

4. OFP engine is preety old, even tweaked VBS1 is old now

5. Noone would buy VBS1 for hard casch when OFP2 will come out

so....

1. delay OFP2 release to get some more money on VBS1

2. make VBS2 use new engine full of cool features, and OFP2 wich will be a little "worst" than VBS2

no way OFP2 will be greater than VBS2

no way OFP2 will be released till enought casch will be pulled out of VBS1

no way OFP2 will be released before new VBS.

[MontyVCB 0]

thats complete and utter bullshit, VBS1 and OFP2 are being developed by different teams that are like 5000 miles away from each other so how can they affect each other? if more than anything the development of vbs has been made slower since earl left the BIA team to join the BIS team...

[offtime 0]

thats complete and utter bullshit, VBS1 and OFP2 are being developed by different teams that are like 5000 miles away from each other so how can they affect each other? if more than anything the development of vbs has been made slower since earl left the BIA team to join the BIS team...

[hellfish6 7]

Stop the VBS1 talk right now.

[FireflyPL 0]

The whole OFP community is now broken in to 2 parts one that plays VBS and is remains there and the other that stayed with OFP. All because of a difference of a price-tag and some modifications.

And this is exactly what is killing the OFP community. No offense to anyone that bought VBS or is working on VBS, but I think VBS is a coffin nail to the OFP community  

I agree. VBS is killing OFP community and the game itself by taking all good mod teams like BAS, COMBAT, LACERTA etc. This is coffin nail to OFP. Besides I can't agree more on dividing community by VBS. I think we as community should boycot VBS.

Ps. I can see that "utter bullshit" is said by a guy who owns VBS as we can see in his avatar.

[Tomislav 0]

err, firefly, no thing i am with you on this, but we should really better stop that now as i am stil hoping for a csla release, maybe we get at least the update1 for ofp

[MontyVCB 0]

u guys honestly listen to yourselfs, ur the most selfish bunch i have eva seen

[ag_smith 0]

u guys honestly listen to yourselfs, ur the most selfish bunch i have eva seen

I think you don't really get what's going on here and calling somebody (me? ) selfish doesn't make it any better.

Very well, ok. From now on, since I'm selfish, I'm not going to release any addons to the public. I'm gonna make them for myself and only show you screens to tease you... or maybe I consider quitting addonmaking for OFP and move on to another game. I hope you're satisfied now!

[hardrock 1]

Come on, Smith, get down again. This is about CSLA, not about the sense of life. Just ignore this guy and let's get back on topic.

[hellfish6 7]

Next person to talk about VBS will get a vacation from the forum.

[CanadianTerror 0]

Well no matter what...I'm looking forward to the release of the FIA pack.

It's too bad about Lacerta but hey, thats the way it goes.

[shinRaiden 0]

I think it's pointless to badger for answers that cannot be given, it's not CSLA's product to discuss if it is indeed what it appears to be...

Anyway, an idea just invited itself into my mind... Has any thought been given into coordinating with other MOD's to make a unified Warsaw Pact system? IE you have RHS, SCARS' MI-24, OWP's MI-8 & MI-26, FDF elements, etc to name just a few, that were also exported to the WP satellites. It would be nice if the mod's could sit down together and coordinate it so that we could have for example T-55's and T-62's and Mig-21&23's and BMP's with shared models but localized markings. There's always some missing no matter how a MOD tries, perhaps if it was coordinated this could be improved.

Related to that it would be nice to see an alternate reality resistance styled campaign based on Prague 1968 as well.

[FireflyPL 0]

Next person to talk about VBS will get a vacation from the forum.

Why? Is it a taboo?

[FireflyPL 0]

u guys honestly listen to yourselfs, ur the most selfish bunch i have eva seen  

I think you don't really get what's going on here and calling somebody (me?   ) selfish doesn't make it any better.

Very well, ok. From now on, since I'm selfish, I'm not going to release any addons to the public. I'm gonna make them for myself and only show you screens to tease you... or maybe I consider quitting addonmaking for OFP and move on to another game. I hope you're satisfied now!

Really good point Agent to all those apple-polishers who are toading to any ppl who are firstly teasing you and then killing community by moving to tabooed game. You spend so much time and energy to your addons and gave them for free and yet they are beaching at you for being selfish?? Damn, thats real stupidity.