Nogovan army?

[Imshi-Yallah 0]

Nogovan Defence Forces:

Heres my view on a land army, I think with all the addons existing it would take less than a month for minor retextures and a decent scene setting campaign to be put together.

HQ:

General Staff,

Administrative staff.

Troska Military Academy

Infantry School

Cavalry School

Artillery School

Eng School

Etc.

3xBde

3 x Inf Bn (2 Reserve)

(Each with 3 Rifle Coys (HQ+ 3x Platoon), 1x Support (medical, Crew served weapons, Assault Pioneer platoon ) and 1x HQ coy (HQ, Recce Pln)- 20x 5Ton, 15x Jeep , 11x M113 (inlc 1x ambulance), 10x Specialist trucks (fueler, ammo), 12x M2HBs (incl Vehicle mounts). 8x CG 84mm, 8x 60mm mortar.

1x Cav Sqn (4x M-60E3, 2xM113, 20x Jeep, 4x 5Ton, 1x Fueler, 1x Ammo)

2x Field Artillery regt (12x M101A1, 6x Jeeps, 15x 5Ton ea)

1x Logs Bn (MP Coy, Medical coy, Field Engr coy, Supply and transport coy-30x Jeep, 30x 5Ton, 20x Fueler/Ammo/Repair)

Independent units:

1st Tank Battalion- 24x M-60, 30x M113 10x Logs Vehicles

20th Air Defence Artillery Battalion (Mixed Airforce and Army- 12x Vulcan, 50x MANPADS, 20x Logs Vehicles)

17th Special Forces Company (150 Personnel)

Militia Units: 1 for each major Town or regional centre, Use old Russian equipment , and are trained primarily for local defence although they do receive some light infantry training from the NDF.

Militia units consist mainly of independence Veterans at the moment and hold large quantities of eastern bloc equipment in storage, having neither the funding nor the opportunity to train with them in peace time.

Spares for heavy equipment are cannibalised from the retired NDF fleet and selected Militia personnel receive annual training by the TDF tank battalion and maintenance school.

Military Service:

Nogovas three regular Battalions are supported by a further 6 Conscript units which recruit twice yearly.to maintain a state of readiness all year round.

The Corps units are primarily staffed by proffessional officers and NCOs with the remainder of appointments divided between reservists and serving concscripts.

The Militia train with the army infrequently and are mainly regarded as a temporary last ditch force based on the presence of large numbers of combat experienced veterans, it is expected that militia forces will eventually be subsumed into the army's force structure when natural wastage renders the force combat inneffective.

Thats a total active strength of around 2000 with the rest of the NDF being part time reserve personnel.

Not obscenely big for an Island of Nogovas size and population.

[Lt_Phoenix 0]

A while back Ivan made some MAL (Malden Army of Liberation) troops over at ofp.info. You could check them out for some ideas on how to equip the NDF.

[Landwarrior87 0]

the way you have their army set-up i think its wayyy to large.. around 2000 personell and it looks to me like they have a shit load of equipment just for this small island.. i think the theme of the Nogova Army should be a little more poor and things hard to come by.. Like i like the idea of what u were saying bout the Army and then the Local Milita.. the addon with the guriellas could suit the guys that stay in the towns and operate very cheap Small Arms.. scattered AK's and Vietnam Era SKS.. and then the Army could be a little more organized.. atleast everyone could have a primary weapon like an Ak47 and then the officers to have a little better weapon.. and the Armored ivision should be nothing more than about Half a Dozen T-55's and and a few M60's and one or two "STOLEN" T72's & T80's. The BRDM's could be the default APC.. about half of dozen of those.. i say around 500 or 600 personell would be right for nogova.. after all 2000 people in a military for such a small country is a tad bit large..

Overall i like the idea i just think to be a little more realistic htey should be a little less Equipped and should have fewer soldiers.

[EiZei 0]

Acquiring spare parts and such for T-80s might have been bit difficult for Nogova right after the resistance war.

Of course lot of the equipment would depend on whenever Nogova joined NATO/became officially allied with the US after the war or did they remain neutral.

[Lenin 0]

Nogovan Defence Forces:

Heres my view on a land army, I think with all the addons existing it would take less than a month for minor retextures and a decent scene setting campaign to be put together.

HQ:

General Staff,

Administrative staff.

Troska Military Academy

Infantry School

Cavalry School

Artillery School

Eng School

Etc.

3xBde

3 x Inf Bn (2 Reserve)

(Each with 3 Rifle Coys (HQ+ 3x Platoon), 1x Support (medical, Crew served weapons, Assault Pioneer platoon ) and 1x HQ coy (HQ, Recce Pln)- 20x 5Ton, 15x Jeep , 11x M113 (inlc 1x ambulance), 10x Specialist trucks (fueler, ammo), 12x M2HBs (incl Vehicle mounts). 8x CG 84mm, 8x 60mm mortar.

1x Cav Sqn (4x M-60E3, 2xM113, 20x Jeep, 4x 5Ton, 1x Fueler, 1x Ammo)

2x Field Artillery regt (12x M101A1, 6x Jeeps, 15x 5Ton ea)

1x Logs Bn (MP Coy, Medical coy, Field Engr coy, Supply and transport coy-30x Jeep, 30x 5Ton, 20x Fueler/Ammo/Repair)

Independent units:

1st Tank Battalion- 24x M-60, 30x M113 10x Logs Vehicles

20th Air Defence Artillery Battalion (Mixed Airforce and Army- 12x Vulcan, 50x MANPADS, 20x Logs Vehicles)

17th Special Forces Company (150 Personnel)

Militia Units: 1 for each major Town or regional centre, Use old Russian equipment , and are trained primarily for local defence although they do receive some light infantry training from the NDF.

Militia units consist mainly of independence Veterans at the moment and hold large quantities of eastern bloc equipment in storage, having neither the funding nor the opportunity to train with them in peace time.

Spares for heavy equipment are cannibalised from the retired NDF fleet and selected Militia personnel receive annual training by the TDF tank battalion and maintenance school.

Military Service:

Nogovas three regular Battalions are supported by a further 6 Conscript units which recruit twice yearly.to maintain a state of readiness all year round.

The Corps units are primarily staffed by proffessional officers and NCOs with the remainder of appointments divided between reservists and serving concscripts.

The Militia train with the army infrequently and are mainly regarded as a temporary last ditch force based on the presence of large numbers of combat experienced veterans, it is expected that militia forces will eventually be subsumed into the army's force structure when natural wastage renders the force combat inneffective.

Thats a total active strength of around 2000 with the rest of the NDF being part time reserve personnel.

Not obscenely big for an Island of Nogovas size and population.

Don't forget about police (policia ).

Espetialy DMX's addons.

[GoOB 0]

I think modifications of Russian equipment would be a sureshot for Nogovan forces. An improved version of the BTR-60 for instance, added armor plating, attachment of ATGM on turret and things like that. Afterall that is one of the cheapest ways of getting fair to decent gear. And an assortment of modified T55's/T64's, perhaps even a PT-76?

[One 0]

everyone here has to realize - that the Resistance campaign was based back in the 70's. So please think - what nogova would be like almost 30 years later

[CanadianTerror 0]

Probably the same except the equipment is 30 years older.

[ozanzac 0]

everyone here has to realize - that the Resistance campaign was based back in the 70's. So please think - what nogova would be like almost 30 years later

Uhuh, thats why the T-80, introduced circa 1984, is in the campaign, isn't it!      

Source: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/t80tank.htm

[hellfish6 7]

My idea, for what it's worth:

Army of the Republic of Nogova:

Active Duty (Permanant Force with Conscripts)

1st Battalion, Nogovan Light Infantry

A Company: Airborne Infantry, based on Malden, 110 men

B Company: Light Infantry, based on Everon, 110 men

C Company: Light Infantry, based on Nogova, 110 men

D Company: Heavy weapons (one platoon attached to each A, B and C Companies), 74 men

HHC Company: Support (HQ, recon, supply), based on Nogova, 56 men

C Squadron, Nogova Light Horse based on Nogova

1st Troop (Platoon): 4 T-55A, 16 men

2nd Troop: 4 T-55A, 16 men

3rd Troop: Mech Infantry platoon (MT-LB), 46 men

HQ Troop: 3 T-55A, 1 ZSU (or MT-LB with ZU-23), 2 MT-LB, 26 men

F Battery, Nogovan Light Artillery, based on Nogova

6 M-101 or D-30 guns plus PV3S trucks, 50 men

"Troska" Troop, Nogovan Special Air Service

24 men

Military Police Platoon, one squad on each island. 44 men.

1 Field Company, Nogova Engineer Regiment

85 men, one platoon on each island.

General HQ, based on Nogova, 40 men incl. General Officer Commanding Nogovan Army (GOCNA)

2 Service Battalion

A Company: Personnel Services (pay, legal, admin, etc.) 20 men

B Company: Medical Services (provides medical support to all Nogovan forces, supervises medic training) 59 men, 4 doctors

C Company: Training Support (incl. drill sergeants, runs military academy and creates and implements Army doctrine), 47 men

D Company: Maintenance (maintains vehicles, motorpools, facilities and weapon systems) 92 men

E Company: Logistics Support (stocks warehouses and supplies units, provides transportation, etc.) 113 men

Reserve Forces Require 2 weeks' service per year. Six years' service mandatory after conscription.

Everon Defense Battalion

approx 200 reservists, 3 T-55s, 7 MT-LBs

Malden Defense Battalion

approx 250 reservists, 5 T-55s, 10 MT-LBs

Nogova Defense Battalion

approx 400 reservists, 10 T-55s, 20 MT-LBs and BTR-60s

Additional Reserve Equipment (in storage due to operating costs, lack of spare parts, poor servicibility, etc. Remnants of Soviet-supported coup in 1985)

3 T-72M

2 T-80U

5 BMP-1

6 BMP-2

2 ZSU-23-4

12 122mm Howitzers

6 Ferrret scout cars

Edit: Forgot engineers.

[the_shadow 0]

iám thinking that maby NATO has done the same thing to Nogova that sweden have done to the baltics..

to the baltics we have "given" a lot of older swedish equipment like, AK4 (H&K G3) Kpist M/45 (Swedish K), Ksp 58 (FN MAG, M240) GRG 48 (Carl gustav recoilles rifle) and stuff like that.. they have also got quite a lot of vehicles, TGB11, TGB20 and TGB 13 mostely, but also our motorcycle, husquarna 258.

and then finland have done pretty much the same.

although they hav´nt got any armour as far as i know...

maybe us or some other NATO countries did the same after the Nogova war.

[GoOB 0]

Since Nogova seems to be closely affiliated with the Czech goverment and the country in general I would think that the Czech army would supply the Nogovan army to some extent. Perhaps a few Vz.58 rifles, AT-guns and to some extent aircraft.

But what are we aiming to make? The Nogova army as it would be today or what it was back in 1980's? I would imagine that after the soviet invasion a army was formed to protect Nogova in case the events would be repeated.

[Peter_13 0]

To tell the truth - any independent (from USSR) Nogova was imposible in 50-80's. Nowdays some czechs can imagine they could become independent in 68, but we all know the truth.

So Nogovian army, airforce, fleet and Respublic of Nogova is silly bullshit.

[Stag 0]

Immediately after the Resistance campaign, the Nogovan Army’s heavy equipment would consist of whatever they had left after the war. They’d run this kit until it became unusable.

The problem with determining what comes next stems from not knowing what they actually have in the way of a budget. I strongly doubt that they would be able to run MBTs after the Resistance War assets were gone.

Then again there’s also the “Sleeping Dogs†factor. If there were an extended period of peace, a large proportion of the population would question the need for anything more than the most basic armed forces anyway. What kind of government does Nogova have? How trustworthy are its politicians? How thick are its citizens?

[One 0]

well maybe the people of Nogova are thick headed Farmers, Intensly Nationalistic too!

[supersheep 0]

Personally, I think Hellfish has got about the right size for the army. Imshi's is nice, well-organized and all, but still a bit big. Only gripe is that there's probably not enough "tail" (i.e support troops). In the modern US army in Iraq, they have 1 combat troop to to every four support, if i remember correctly. This army has combat troops(not including reserves) outnumbering service somewhere between two and three to one. Now, I'd say in a much smaller army, there'd be much less administration, but not that much less. I think it's especially short on maintenance. After all, there are thirty or forty vehicles, and only 92 men to support. So maye double the size of the 2nd Service Battalion, and all should be well with the world. Just my €0.02.

[hellfish6 7]

In my experience, a military vehicle is rarely down for maintenance for more than a few days at a time. I think having approximately 92 personnel would work out right, as these are the guys that do the higher-level maintenance. Typically, the vehicle's crew will do most of the basic stuff (breaking track, day-to-day maintenance) while the people in the Service Battalion would do the trickier stuff like changing transmissions and engines, replacing main guns, vehicle overhauls, battlefield damage repairs, etc.

For an army with only 11 T-55s and a handful of MT-LBs considered operational (add to that maybe 40 trucks and UAZs) I think that D Company's service capabilities are adequate. Estimate that maybe 75% of the personnel are actually mechanics and armorers, and the remaining 25% leadership (officers) and administration (supply and admin clerks, radio operators, aides, etc.) and you'd still have a good number of mechanics vis-a-vis vehicles.

Also, figure that the HQ Troop of the Nogova Light Horse will probably have a couple of mechanics riding in one of the MT-LBs to provide assistance to the tankers.

[CanadianTerror 0]

For the Nogovan armour, I just had a thought as to T62's being a bit more realistic rather than T-80's.

Maybe 4 or 5 of them.

EDIT: Also I think having a couple of PT-76's(I believe has been mentioned) is also a good idea...maybe 3 or 4 of them.

[EiZei 0]

Mm, I recall T-62s given to only more "closer" allies, am I right?

[soul_assassin 1723]

should we maybe agree on a single camo pattern , maybe someone even post it online so all modmakers can use it?

[ran 0]

the FIA cammo pattern created by MAA and MAC for the MTLB pack for exepmle and also used on a OH1 reskin would do IMO

[CanadianTerror 0]

http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~edge/res_patpreview.gif

What about #3?

Malden Highland pattern by Edge

[ran 0]

i was on about vehicle camo patterns , but when it comes to uniforms , Edge's camo and OFP FIA patterns would do

[hellfish6 7]

I like Marfy's MT-LB camo. I think that should be standard for vehicle camo.

[soul_assassin 1723]

the pattern that SEBASTIAN MULLER created for the MTLB is indeed very good but since it is already taken by FIA whats the originality of the army having the same one?