Modern/current pilot (hgu55/mbu12)

[marine26thmeu 0]

Seeing how many addon makers such as Pennywise & Hudson, Vit, Skaircro,Footmunch and countless others have made superb aircraft I was curious if someone would be willing to make a new pilot unit.  Now I know most think I want someone to recreate the wheel, but I'm talking about a totally new model, not just a newly done retextured helmet.  Seeing how the magicians at BAS have made the awesome SPH-4 with a working visor and NVGs. Such a configuration of having a HGU-55 Flight Helmet, and with the help of some animations for the visor, and a MBU-12 O2 mask should be possible.  This unit if made could maybe used as a default pilot for the endless amount of custom aircraft made.  Also with other people creating HALO missions perhaps a black jumpsuit loadout?  Just a thought, between BAS, RHS, DKM and countless others I know this is possible.  But it depends on those who have time, so just to clarify I'm asking, not demanding.  Thanks  

[Uncle_Sam 0]

JAM only then for pilots UPS, Universal Pilot System

[lee_h._oswald 0]

Uhm, I vote YES.

MfG Lee

[pang 0]

#vote addon accurate pilot

i´m with you guys  

there were discussions and requests for this ages ago now. i was even thinking on starting this addon by myself  

hey. deadsoldier and us_marine said that they were working on a new pilot for their mig29!

let´s hope less m4 are beeing made but more nice pilot models.

we could definately need some for all those foxy planes that came out recently.

maybe matthijs (sp?) is even doing a template like his international soldiers

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finnish pilot

dragon toys f14 pilot

dragon f18 pilot

[Major Gripe 0]

I would love a realistic bomber/fighter pilot, but as i understand it a moving oxygen hose is not possible on the pilot model. If the pilot turned his head the hose would not move with him or change length to adapt. Which quite frankly would look crappy.

[havocsquad 0]

Yes, I desperately want realistic looking fixed wing fighter, bomber, and strike aircraft pilots.  I'm tired of some vague green color jumpsuit and nothing on him but a helmet as equipment.

It might be possible to impliment a flight suit with the harness modelled on it, but I think we'll have to wait until OFP 2 in order to design a way to produce objects like the oxygen mask, body armor, helmets actually as objects (for modelling ballistic protection for the protected part of the head.) and other objects that relate to a unit.

Frankly, I think the aircraft part of the OFP community needs a good pilot addon.  Something close to BAS quality or better.

I was thinking (dangerous I know), if I got shot down over enemy lines, I'd want an quick assembly m4a1 or mp5sd6 in my ejection seat survival storage hold once it hits the ground. Some Smith & Wesson or a Beretta m92f won't do jack crap against even the most stupid enemy soldiers with an automatic rifle beats a skilled marksman with sidearm. Screw keeping a flare gun in it, that won't keep the groups of hunting soldiers away from you.

[pang 0]

why not use the gasmask as hidden selection like on the SOAR pilots by bas?

a script could determine whether the pilot is inside a plane or not and assign him the mask if propriate

[Uncle_Sam 0]

Would be do-able, but needs allot of scripting

[pang 0]

the facemask script or the hidden selection?

i once made a little script for the SOARs to check if they´re in any mh6 series chopper or any other open- cockpit chopper, to assignt them facemasks... its really no problem. you can even do it via two editor triggers

guys, i really hope that someone will take care of decent west/ east fighter pilots.

i attempted to model something around in o˛ just a couple of minutes ago but i had to realize that it´s a horrible programm for 3d modelling. i think i gotta nick a copy of maya from work

[reconmercs 0]

well, like many I'd like to see one...will one be done..probaly not....I'd love to be proven wrong though...

[GoOB 0]

I thought ejected pilots weren't supposed to even use their sidearms if it is not really, really needed. I do not think that a single man, hungry and alone in enemy territory would attempt to take out squads of soldiers. Maybe in OFP, but not very likely to happen in battle I figure.

Also, ever used the OFP M92? Very accurate indeed.

But I am all for this, so what if the pilot doesn't have an oxygen hose running to the mouthpiece. It would still look better then a helicopter pilots helmet.

By the way, what is this stuff about ballistic protection? That is going a bit over the top IMHO. Just keep it visual, no real coding changes needed.

[reconmercs 0]

I thought ejected pilots weren't supposed to even use their sidearms if it is not really, really needed. I do not think that a single man, hungry and alone in enemy territory would attempt to take out squads of soldiers. Maybe in OFP, but not very likely to happen in battle I figure.

WTF?!!? someone trapped behind enemy lines is gonna use whatever means needed to get back into friendly hands that includes pilots..thas the reason they are issued sidearms in the first place...no, he wouldn't be setting up ambushes and what not but he needs a way to defend himself and another way to hunt if he's stranded for extremely long periods of time

[blackdog~ 0]

ahem... if one soldier with an automatic weapon comes up to him he can shoot him once and take the automatic weapon

[gatordev 219]

ahem... if one soldier with an automatic weapon comes up to him he can shoot him once and take the automatic weapon

And yet, if you've ever had to evade, real or "simulated," you'd know that the last place you want to be is anywhere near a guy w/ a gun. Where there's one, there's others.

[Consigliere 0]

Goob's post was spot on...The last thing a pilot, downed behind enemy lines wants to do is attract attention, as he's already got enough on his plate, what with tracker dogs, tracker squads and helicopters scowering the land for him/her.

The sidearm is ONLY there as a LAST resort...

Downed behind enemy lines=be the rock/tree/bush/cow ( )

[reconmercs 0]

the whole point of the discussion was does he need a weapon I think..and the answer is yes...you wouldn't see any aviator volunteering to fly over iraq or afghanistan completely UNHARMED period. Gatordev I know your an naval aviator so you'd probaly be able to speak on the subject with actual know how..I've got another 2 years before I can say "by experience"...

[Consigliere 0]

And what makes you so sure I don't have experience?

You are speaking purely from an OFP player's perspective (understandable seeing as this is a forum dedicated to OFP ), therefore if I were you, I would refrain from trying to tell me what an airman carries and doesn't carry, in real life

[blackdog~ 0]

ahem... if one soldier with an automatic weapon comes up to him he can shoot him once and take the automatic weapon

And yet, if you've ever had to evade, real or "simulated," you'd know that the last place you want to be is anywhere near a guy w/ a gun.  Where there's one, there's others.

true, but i'm talking about if he has to defend himself.... he can kill the initial guard if spotted, then if needed fend himself off with the automatic weapon...

[Major Fubar 0]

Please try to speak to each other with some respect. Smilies at the end of each sentence doesn't make being rude or sarcastic to each other OK...

Also, while the topic of how downed pilot's use their sidearms is fine, please try to keep it related to the topic (i.e. the addon).

Thanks.

[Consigliere 0]

Sorry if that post caused offence, I didn't intend it to.

If I wanted it to sound rude, I would have put or .

I really mean my smilies, and I'd say that the poor buggers are abused too much...End smilie exploitation,I say!

[Major Fubar 0]

No problem at all. Just trying to keep everything nice and friendly here.

[marine26thmeu 0]

I agree with pang if it would be possible using the o2 mask as a option only once in the aircraft. And as for the unit, I wasn't suggesting a g-suit with the hoses sticking out but maybe a retextured version of the SOAR vest (with their permission) emulating a flight/survival vest. I wasn't thinking of anything too complex, especially seeing how OFP2 is officially set for late 2004 which probably translates into early-mid 2005. Seeing as how they will be some time from then until now maybe not a entirely "new model", but maybe a retextured uniform, vest but a new helmet with visor. In other words something that everybody can use for the time being. Looking at any of the BAS pilots we see a completely new helmet, the SPH-4B as opposed to the stock BIS model. So I'm sure quite a few folks out there could morph a HGU-55 with a visor out of that. Thanks

[gatordev 219]

the whole point of the discussion was does he need a weapon I think..and the answer is yes...you wouldn't see any aviator volunteering to fly over iraq or afghanistan completely UNHARMED period.  Gatordev I know your an naval aviator so you'd probaly be able to speak on the subject with actual know how..I've got another 2 years before I can say "by experience"...

Copy all. Yeah, that makes sense, as far as a sidearm. Not sure what the AF uses, but most of the Navy is now using the Sig P228 (that's the 9mm, right?).

My comment was directed towards using said weapon as an offesive weapon (in RL), which you just don't want to do unless you have to.

[Cpt. Bazikian-5thSFG- 0]

I thought all pilots in all services used the standard 9mm M9 Beretta?

[gatordev 219]

Nope.