Lock on: modern air combat

[shadow 6]

Apart from the issues Tx and Keg mention there is this major issue:Eagle Dynamics and UBI screwed up bigtime. The game will not run in W98/ME even though it says so on the box. But they are taking that bug very seriously and are working on it.

Talk about poor Q&A and compatibility-testing huh

[Badgerboy 0]

Apart from the issues Tx and Keg mention there is this major issue:Eagle Dynamics and UBI screwed up bigtime. The game will not run in W98/ME even though it says so on the box. But they are taking that bug very seriously and are working on it.

Talk about poor Q&A and compatibility-testing huh  

Shadow, everyone knows that anyone running ME should be shot on sight. 98 on the other hand is a problem, as many people still run it as an OS.

(Go XP or 2K though. Win 9x could never managed resources or memory properly)

[shadow 6]

Apart from the issues Tx and Keg mention there is this major issue:Eagle Dynamics and UBI screwed up bigtime. The game will not run in W98/ME even though it says so on the box. But they are taking that bug very seriously and are working on it.

Talk about poor Q&A and compatibility-testing huh  

Shadow, everyone knows that anyone running ME should be shot on sight. 98 on the other hand is a problem, as many people still run it as an OS.

(Go XP or 2K though. Win 9x could never managed resources or memory properly)

No, WinME has worked flawlessly for me for allmost two years now, so don't come here and tell me I should be shot

It is a bug in the game and the devs are working on it.

Besides, I prefer clean sound in all games with my audigy (but I'm trying out some 3rd-party drivers for XP right now).

[Baron Hurlothrumbo IIX 0]

Seriously, get rid of ME, its utter pish.

[shadow 6]

ME has worked wonderfuly for me the last two years.

Back on topic please.

[ale2999 0]

guys the game is dead gorgeous. multiplayer is like a dream, I played on a buddy server all nit and it was very smooth, with minor bad netcode performance at only a few times during the game. it is challenging to master the radar system, but to play this sim is just a joy....

[Badgerboy 0]

guys the game is dead gorgeous. multiplayer is like a dream, I played on a buddy server all nit and it was very smooth, with minor bad netcode performance at only a few times during the game. it is challenging to master the radar system, but to play this sim is just a joy....

Don't worry, after using the radar in Falcon 4.0, anything after is a breeze to get to grips with.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

guys the game is dead gorgeous. multiplayer is like a dream, I played on a buddy server all nit and it was very smooth, with minor bad netcode performance at only a few times during the game. it is challenging to master the radar system, but to play this sim is just a joy....

Don't worry, after using the radar in Falcon 4.0, anything after is a breeze to get to grips with.

Totally agree. The radar in Lomac is a wonder of simplicity after dealing with Falcon.

[ale2999 0]

falcon lovers, gotta love em hehe

jk

[Tovarish 0]

@ Nov. 27 2003,16:47)]

guys the game is dead gorgeous. multiplayer is like a dream, I played on a buddy server all nit and it was very smooth, with minor bad netcode performance at only a few times during the game. it is challenging to master the radar system, but to play this sim is just a joy....

Don't worry, after using the radar in Falcon 4.0, anything after is a breeze to get to grips with.

Totally agree. The radar in Lomac is a wonder of simplicity after dealing with Falcon.

Then what's with all the people complaining about not being able to use the F-15 radar and whining that they had no problems with F 4.0? The developers have denied that it's a bug and have tried to show how people simply are having trouble figuring it out.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

@ Nov. 27 2003,16:47)]

guys the game is dead gorgeous. multiplayer is like a dream, I played on a buddy server all nit and it was very smooth, with minor bad netcode performance at only a few times during the game. it is challenging to master the radar system, but to play this sim is just a joy....

Don't worry, after using the radar in Falcon 4.0, anything after is a breeze to get to grips with.

Totally agree. The radar in Lomac is a wonder of simplicity after dealing with Falcon.

Then what's with all the people complaining about not being able to use the F-15 radar and whining that they had no problems with F 4.0? The developers have denied that it's a bug and have tried to show how people simply are having trouble figuring it out.

Well, I'll admit that I'm having some trouble with the F15C's radar as well. Set your azimuth, set your range, set your scan altitudes, and then be overwhelmed by the lack of any contact on that Il-76 that you know is only 20 miles out in front of you. It isn't a matter of complexity, it's a matter of functionality (or lack thereof). I don't know whether it's a bug or not, but it is puzzling that the radar in the Su27 is much more reliable in picking up contacts at any range. It's not a huge deal for me though, as I prefer knife fighting in either a Fulcrum or a Flanker anyways. Give me a few R-73s and an HMTDS and I'll be set.

[ale2999 0]

what about if the enemy thx that he wants to fight bvr? ur r73 are useless hehehe

[ozanzac 0]

Well, now the full game is out, I wanna pose a couple of Question's to those lucky enough to have it.

Does the game have any type of Dynamic Campaign or is it single mission based flights covering a specific element of air combat?

Do the radars have A-G modes? And is destroying ground installations and units part of the sim at all, or is it pure air combat?

Are weapon loadouts configurable by the user, and if so, is the selection of weaponry accurate and diverse?

How big is the world of LOMAC. And is it based on real geography or is it a make beleive world?

Are AWACS, Airfield Air Traffic Control and ILS systems implemented?

And most importantly, would it satisfy a realistic sim freak like myself?

[edc 0]

Quote[/b] ]Do the radars have A-G modes? And is destroying ground installations and units part of the sim at all, or is it pure air combat?

None of the planes have AG radars both ingame, and  real life(i believe).

Quote[/b] ]Are weapon loadouts configurable by the user, and if so, is the selection of weaponry accurate and diverse?

Yes, you can make your own loadouts fairly easily, and while I can't speak for the accuracy, I think there could be a lot more weapons, though, especially for the Su-33, and Mig-29s.  Many of the weapons you could use in Flanker 2 for like the Su-33 and Fulcrums(like laser/TV guided bombs, and some antishipping missilies(the only human usable one is the Kh-41 Sunburn.), aren't usable in LOMAC.

Quote[/b] ]How big is the world of LOMAC. And is it based on real geography or is it a make beleive world?

It is based on the real world, its in the NE area of the Black Sea, specifically the island of Crimea, and some of the land east of there.

edit: the green highlighted area is approximately the detailed area in LOMAC

[ale2999 0]

Are AWACS, Airfield Air Traffic Control and ILS systems implemented?

And most importantly, would it satisfy a realistic sim freak like myself?  

ya all those systems are there.

I think it would satisfy u. It isnt as complex as falcon 4 eg no clickable cockpit but I am very satisfied and so are many others

[Tovarish 0]

Yes, you can make your own loadouts fairly easily, and while I can't speak for the accuracy, I think there could be a lot more weapons, though, especially for the Su-33, and Mig-29s.  Many of the weapons you could use in Flanker 2 for like the Su-33 and Fulcrums(like laser/TV guided bombs, and some antishipping missilies(the only human usable one is the Kh-41 Sunburn.), aren't usable in LOMAC.

As far as air to ground weapons for the MiG in Flanker 2, Flanker 2 featured the Mig-29K, a multirole carrier version, which could carry these guided munitions (never entered service in Russia but might now be sold to India along with a carrier). The MiG-29 variants in the game (9.12/9.12A and 9.13S ) can only carry "dumb" bombs and rockets (although the Russian S version can carry a nuke in real life - these aren't in Lo-Mac), and the Su-27 and Su-33 are also mainly air superiority fighters. More advanced variants like the Su-30 can carry guided A/G weaponry. So yes, the loadouts are realistic .

*edit* and to answer ozanzac's question about A/G radar, none of the flyables in the game have it in real life (the closest would be the F-15C, which was tested for that purpose in the early 90's IIRC, but that was with a different radar set than the AGP-63v0 in the game

[iNeo 0]

<-- Click me

I need to improve my method of avoiding incoming missiles.

[shadow 6]

<-- Click me

I need to improve my method of avoiding incoming missiles.

LOL

Tried chaff and flare?

Maybe fly a little lower so yoou wont be detected so easily.

Btw.. whats with your graphics?

I've never seen such a simple one-colour-sky and no details.

[ozanzac 0]

<-- Click me

I need to improve my method of avoiding incoming missiles.

A good way would be to stay away from A-50's unless you can engage them with an AIM-120.

Those AWACS aircraft can see you from a mile away (actually a couple hundred), and are usually protected by a HAVCAP (High Asset Value Combat Air Patrol)

Take out whatevers guarding the A-50 first with missiles, then use guns on the A-50.

[Badgerboy 0]

First thing to do is spot the incoming warhead. (Difficult, as modern missiles are designed to burn clean for a few seconds, and then 'glide' the rest of the way)

Once you have spotted it, put it on the beam. ( 3 or 9 o'clock) ECM on, and start dropping chaff bundles in small pakets every few seconds. If the bugger is still heading toward you, but stays fixed on the beam, you might have to try a break turn INTO the missile, to cause it to overshoot.

Best way to avoid them however, is not to get into a position where the enemy has a firing solution.

(And never fly around with your radar activated continuoulsy. Thats asking for trouble. Use it to 'sniff', but turning it on for a few seconds, and then shutting it down. If you do this properly, its rather hard for the enemy to hunt you down.

[iNeo 0]

LOL

Tried chaff and flare?

Hehe,

Yeah I used flares, but I'm getting better now and after playing this a few days I'm starting to like Su-27 more than F-15.

A good way would be to stay away from A-50's unless you can engage them with an AIM-120.

Those AWACS aircraft can see you from a mile away (actually a couple hundred), and are usually protected by a HAVCAP (High Asset Value Combat Air Patrol)

Take out whatevers guarding the A-50 first with missiles, then use guns on the A-50.

The mission was to intercept it, so...

I don't think I even tried the AIM-120 though, thx, will do that next time.

(And never fly around with your radar activated continuoulsy. Thats asking for trouble. Use it to 'sniff', but turning it on for a few seconds, and then shutting it down. If you do this properly, its rather hard for the enemy to hunt you down.

Thanks for your tips Badger. A good thing that you can do (at least with the Su-27, by pressing O instead of I) is letting AWACS do the radar scanning for you and the enemy will therefore have a harder time detecting you.

Btw.. whats with your graphics?

I've never seen such a simple one-colour-sky and no details.

The default graphics settings worked just fine until I launched a missile - then it would drop my FPS inconviniently (sp?), so I decided to set my graphics to the Low settings and now it's all good.

Besides, my graphics card is just a GeForce 2 mx

[iNeo 0]

Anyone else noticed how unstable Lomac is?

I've had a few crashes to desktop, and several times the screen go light-blue and I have to alt-tab and shut the game down through ctrl-alt-del processes menu...

[acidcrash 0]

yeh, ive noticed that too, plus had my cockpit disapear more than a few times

what frames are people getting, i seem to be getting 7-10 at most, less when theres several other aircraft/vehicles in the vicinity with my XP2000 + Geforce 4 Ti4200

[Dark Knight 0]

thjere is apatch comming out soon so this should fix em

[shadow 6]

Anyone else noticed how unstable Lomac is?

I've had a few crashes to desktop, and several times the screen go light-blue and I have to alt-tab and shut the game down through ctrl-alt-del processes menu...

I think I'm among the lucky few. Many people over at lo-mac forum is complaining about its instability and ctd-issues.

I have'nt experienced any of that. I get a stable 30-35FPS with everything on medium, water low and heat-blurr off.

Going to start Foxy now. Need to make a program for the cat.