Guest DKM-jaguar Posted June 22, 2003 The MI28N is a version more capable of combat in adverse conditions and night time flying. As such, it is more advanced with the avionics and instruments it has. Like Carnage said, this one would be the counterpart of the longbow. The MI28A is the first example of the MI28 to be in service, and they are working along side the N variants, not being fully replaced. The air to air capabilities of these helicopters is one of the main design features, with the ability to carry 8 air to air missiles (or 16, the standard loadoat is igla AAM's and ATAKA ATGMs). The AH-64D can carry 4 stingers, but these are short range self defence missiles, and are relitively easy to fool via countermeasures. The MI28 is arguably more use on the battlefield, it is capable of many roles and can fill in for other types of aircraft (in the Air to air role it can forfill a perimeter around an instalation with the amount of AA missiles it can carry. kind of. ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted June 22, 2003 N is basically the night version while A was the earlier day version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted June 22, 2003 Soul i dunno who told you ours is the A its an N like DKMs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Totmacher 0 Posted June 22, 2003 I see no problem to make both . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KDF 0 Posted June 23, 2003 No Mi-28s are 'in service' N or A, it has never gone into production, all examples are prototypes..not saying I wouldn't want to see it in OFP tho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KDF 0 Posted June 23, 2003 (sorry duplicate post here) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted June 23, 2003 No Mi-28s are 'in service' N or A, it has never gone into production, all examples are prototypes..not saying I wouldn't want to see it in OFP tho Nope there is one operational model in service: just saw a program on it yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johann "onn" Bitsoenn 0 Posted June 23, 2003 This is a complete list of built prototypes, no other Mi-28 has been buit... project number - side number - common name - year built - year seen additional informations 280 - 012 - Mi-28 - 1982 - 1989.Tushyno; 1991.Chodynka; eksperimental, no weapon systems, only partiall avionics, 280 - 022 - Mi-28 - 1982 - 1992.Kubinka; weapon testing prototype 286 - 032 - Mi-28A - 1988 - 1989.Paris; serial production template. he has now tree-plate tailrotor, as it's X-tailrotor has been 'borrowed' to 294-014 prototype :] 286 - 042 - Mi-28A - 1991 - 1982.Mosaeroshow; 1993.Paris; 1993.Dubai; same as above 286 - 052 - Mi-28A - 1995 (?) 286 - 062 - Mi-28A - 1995 (?) 286 - 072 - Mi-28A - 1995 (?) three serial helicopters which production has been started on-own-risk by OKB Mil's Experimental Production Factory (Rostov), no information about progress, were planned to be finished in 1995... 294 - 014 - Mi-28N - 1995 - 1995.Zukovski; In 1995 Sweden organised a contest for 20 helicopters for it's army, and tested AH-64 and Mi-28A, but later Sweden resigned from buying it due to lack of funds. Mi-28 was offered for 10mln$, which is approx. 1/3 of american proposition :] While 032, 042 and 014 are operational (probably), 012 and 022 are now probably unoperational and are either reworked by Mil into next prototipes or has been moved to some place like another russian Monino wreckage :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted June 23, 2003 Its weird because various online sources point to different info. what to rely on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyles 11 Posted June 23, 2003 Ah who cares about prototypes? The V80 in OFP was an prototype, too, in the campaign, still BIS included it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted June 23, 2003 Ah who cares about prototypes? The V80 in OFP was an prototype, too, in the campaign, still BIS included it. The Ka50 (V80 in OFP) was actually tested under real battle conditions and they found out that such a chopper was unsuitable as it only had one pilot but ideal choppers need a pilot and a operator for increased efficiency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johann "onn" Bitsoenn 0 Posted June 23, 2003 The Ka50 (V80 in OFP) was actually tested under real battle conditions and they found out that such a chopper was unsuitable as it only had one pilot but ideal choppers need a pilot and a operator for increased efficiency. It's not fully truth. Constructing 2-seat Ka-52 does not mean, that Kamov wanted to turn down the idea of one-pilot choppers. Actually, it's the cheap Ka-50 (W-80Sz1) is to be the main, basic chopper in this class, while Ka-52 is planned to take only special jobs. Siergiej Michiejev, general constructor of Kamov, demented also all informations that Ka-50 is not capable of taking night-time operations, so additional crewmember is needed... It was in march 1997 in Abu Dabi that Ka-50N (nocnoj) has been announced... It is estimated, that Ka-50 will be enough for 85% of military operations, as the Ka-52 will be needed only for 15% of them... Both Ka-50 and Ka-52 are offered on export. But it is still not clear if russian army will choose Mi-28 or Ka-50/52... Mostly it is said, that... IF it will have funds for choppers, it will choose both of them :] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-76-Chavez 0 Posted June 23, 2003 Are the Mi28 and the Ka50/52 comparable? I thought the Hokum was more a hunter against enemy choppers whereas the Mi28 is a tank killer with AA just for self defence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
