Faklands mod beta sea harrier release

[NavyEEL 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DKM-jaguar @ 26 April 2003,17:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah... you prove my point: There is TOO MUCH US stuff being in every camapign. They aren't the only army, so why does every addon made have to be converted into the US stuff and end up as yet another one on the pile.

BTW: i think it's unfair when the US people say britians army cant be good when it has all that crap equipment then the US go buying our "crap" equipment. I just dont think this special addon needs to be made un-special just becuase i minority of people see fit to americanise everything.<span id='postcolor'>

the truth of the matter is, a LARGE portion of OFP players are from the US, so we tend to like seeing US versions of vehicles that our military actually uses (such as the AV-8 Harrier). in addition to that, if i remember correctly, the Operation Flashpoint game involves conflict between US and RUSSIAN units. We are accustomed to playing with the US and Soviet soldiers/vehicles/aircraft, and therefore have come to expect addons for these two countries.

That being said, i DO want to thank you for making this Harrier. It is an excellent addon, especially for a beta, and I find every feature on it to be flawless. However, rather than decline to make a USMC version simply because you don't want it to be "Americanized", why not retexture one and let us use it? Since nobody has made a large pack of high quality British ground units to use in conjunction with the Harrier, I find it to be pointless to have a British Harrier being flown by US soldiers involved in a US war against the Soviets...

That being said, thanks again for the addon and I hope you will reconsider making a US version of the Harrier because I would very much appreciate one and I know that a large population of the OFP community would like one as well. You may tell us to "reskin it ourselves", but I honestly don't think that anyone can texture an aircraft as good as you guys did on your Harrier. Thanks again for the addon!

[MLF 0]

NATO vs Russian forces

[Mister 5 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wonder @ 26 April 2003,15:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That russian officer actually would have no trouble, since harriers can't use its weapons while hovering... this is why rather not have VTOL planes in the helicopter class. ...my regards to OfpMan<span id='postcolor'>

Maybe it might get too close and he'll get sucked into those massive intakes??

Ah well, I just made the image to look kinda like True Lies, which isn't a very realistic movie anyways.

[lee_h._oswald 0]

"10" now works perfect for me!

You can manouver on the ground at a speed lower "10".

VTOL is working exaktly and you can attack with your Board-Cannon while hoovering at a speed over 10.

MfG Lee

[Eviscerator 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MLF @ 26 April 2003,18:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">NATO vs Russian forces<span id='postcolor'>

Ahem, NATO vs Soviet Union forces

Anyhoo, great addon guys! I've just been playing it and its great, any chance of seeing some ground attack versions with the full mod?

[silent_64 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Eviscerator @ 26 April 2003,19:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MLF @ 26 April 2003,18:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">NATO vs Russian forces<span id='postcolor'>

Ahem, NATO vs Soviet Union forces

Anyhoo, great addon guys! I've just been playing it and its great, any chance of seeing some ground attack versions with the full mod?<span id='postcolor'>

Yeah... We need that... It looks kinda stupid when atacking a tank with sinwinders

[CuteQA 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NavyEEL @ 26 April 2003,20:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DKM-jaguar @ 26 April 2003,17:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah... you prove my point: There is TOO MUCH US stuff being in every camapign. They aren't the only army, so why does every addon made have to be converted into the US stuff and end up as yet another one on the pile.

BTW: i think it's unfair when the US people say britians army cant be good when it has all that crap equipment then the US go buying our "crap" equipment. I just dont think this special addon needs to be made un-special just becuase i minority of people see fit to americanise everything.<span id='postcolor'>

the truth of the matter is, a LARGE portion of OFP players are from the US, so we tend to like seeing US versions of vehicles that our military actually uses (such as the AV-8 Harrier).  in addition to that, if i remember correctly, the Operation Flashpoint game involves conflict between US and RUSSIAN units.  We are accustomed to playing with the US and Soviet soldiers/vehicles/aircraft, and therefore have come to expect addons for these two countries.

That being said, i DO want to thank you for making this Harrier.  It is an excellent addon, especially for a beta, and I find every feature on it to be flawless.  However, rather than decline to make a USMC version simply because you don't want it to be "Americanized", why not retexture one and let us use it?  Since nobody has made a large pack of high quality British ground units to use in conjunction with the Harrier, I find it to be pointless to have a British Harrier being flown by US soldiers involved in a US war against the Soviets...

That being said, thanks again for the addon and I hope you will reconsider making a US version of the Harrier because I would very much appreciate one and I know that a large population of the OFP community would like one as well.  You may tell us to "reskin it ourselves", but I honestly don't think that anyone can texture an aircraft as good as you guys did on your Harrier.  Thanks again for the addon!<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">THe RAF GRS 3 Harrier is under construction which will be ground support. Also I have a part completed USMC AV8-B Harrier II which may be completed later.

col.klink<span id='postcolor'>

Col.klink didn't say he wont make a US harrier, he has a part complete US harrier now

[kevbaz 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">However, rather than decline to make a USMC version simply because you don't want it to be "Americanized", why not retexture one and let us use it?Since nobody has made a large pack of high quality British ground units to use in conjunction with the Harrier, I find it to be pointless to have a British Harrier being flown by US soldiers involved in a US war against the Soviets...

<span id='postcolor'>

We made this addon for OUR MOD which is the FALKLANDS WAR MOD, which is based on a true war which took place back in 82 between Britian and Argentina, why should we waste our time creating an american version if its of no benifit to the mod? we released it as a public beta out of kindness, just dont expect us to cater for everyone, i for one am fed up of mountians of US addons out there and would rather see british units being released.

Saying that Col Klink has a half done yank version but doesnt know when he can finish it due to the amount of work still to do on the mod.

And its still unsure if were going to release a ground attack version to public, but theres definatley gonna be oe in the mod, the GR3, you might have to wait till then...

[-Ash- 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NavyEEL @ 26 April 2003,18:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DKM-jaguar @ 26 April 2003,17:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah... you prove my point: There is TOO MUCH US stuff being in every camapign. They aren't the only army, so why does every addon made have to be converted into the US stuff and end up as yet another one on the pile.

BTW: i think it's unfair when the US people say britians army cant be good when it has all that crap equipment then the US go buying our "crap" equipment. I just dont think this special addon needs to be made un-special just becuase i minority of people see fit to americanise everything.<span id='postcolor'>

the truth of the matter is, a LARGE portion of OFP players are from the US, so we tend to like seeing US versions of vehicles that our military actually uses (such as the AV-8 Harrier).  in addition to that, if i remember correctly, the Operation Flashpoint game involves conflict between US and RUSSIAN units.  We are accustomed to playing with the US and Soviet soldiers/vehicles/aircraft, and therefore have come to expect addons for these two countries.

That being said, i DO want to thank you for making this Harrier.  It is an excellent addon, especially for a beta, and I find every feature on it to be flawless.  However, rather than decline to make a USMC version simply because you don't want it to be "Americanized", why not retexture one and let us use it?  Since nobody has made a large pack of high quality British ground units to use in conjunction with the Harrier, I find it to be pointless to have a British Harrier being flown by US soldiers involved in a US war against the Soviets...

That being said, thanks again for the addon and I hope you will reconsider making a US version of the Harrier because I would very much appreciate one and I know that a large population of the OFP community would like one as well.  You may tell us to "reskin it ourselves", but I honestly don't think that anyone can texture an aircraft as good as you guys did on your Harrier.  Thanks again for the addon!<span id='postcolor'>

You guys must be forgetting that we are Mod Campaign team, not a source for mods (ala BAS, DKM)..

We are only making stuff that was used during the 1982 Falklands War.. I can't see how a US AV8B would fit in with our plans somehow!

As has been previously mentioned, there is a probable chance that a US AV8B Harrier II will be made, but it won't be from the Falklands Mod team for obvious reasons..

A ground attack GR3 Harrier is being made for the mod as well...

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

Nice plane, I like it

Any plans for automatic defense measures?

[-Ash- 0]

Christ.. You beat me by 3 milliseconds Kev...

[kevbaz 0]

heh

[lee_h._oswald 0]

Did anyone read the "bullshit" I wrote?

Would be nice to get any response from the Falkland-Mod members....

MfG Lee

[kevbaz 0]

Your "BS" would best be dealt by Mr Klink himself, to techincal for me

[CuteQA 0]

will u guys add dust when vtol take off or landing  

[silent_64 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CuteQA @ 26 April 2003,20:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">will u guys add dust when vtol take off or landing  <span id='postcolor'>

If you did that would be sweet

Are you boy still aiming for a 1q release of the whole mod?

[kevbaz 0]

1q relese was an early gustimate, considering weve now passed into the 2q it don tlook like it unfortunatley all ewe can say is itll be finished when its ready, as we truly dont know

[Capitaine Haddock 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NavyEEL @ 26 April 2003,18:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">We are accustomed to playing with the US and Soviet soldiers/vehicles/aircraft, and therefore have come to expect addons for these two countries.<span id='postcolor'>

Wrong.

Sorry to jump on this but the Addon makers make these addons in their own time and for free, so they have all the right to do whatever they please them. You may say "please, could you make an US version" but you shouldn't expect US addons by deffault.

Oh. And the Harrier is fantastic. I'm really impressed with how much it does within the game engine limits. Top job. Thanks so much

[kevbaz 0]

Ok there seems to be a common problem with our forum, to fix it,

in explorer click tools>internet options>privacy> then move the slider all the way to the bottom

that fixes it while we try and find out why its happening

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KEVBAZ @ 26 April 2003,20:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your "BS" would best be dealt by Mr Klink himself, to techincal for me <span id='postcolor'>

Well it would be nice if you at least forwarded Oswald's modified scripts for the VTOL to Col. Klink as I don't see the good Colonel here very often on this forum.

As for the USMC versions, will the Falklands MOD team at least allow for other addon makers to modify it in order to make a USMC AV-8A or AV-8B?

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[kevbaz 0]

Well mr klink is on here alot, thing is he lives in NZ so when hes on he will see it

[kevbaz 0]

ans as for modifying the harrier READ THE READ ME!

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Capitaine Haddock @ 26 April 2003,21:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NavyEEL @ 26 April 2003,18:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">We are accustomed to playing with the US and Soviet soldiers/vehicles/aircraft, and therefore have come to expect addons for these two countries.<span id='postcolor'>

Wrong.

Sorry to jump on this but the Addon makers make these addons in their own time and for free, so they have all the right to do whatever they please them. You may say "please, could you make an US version" but you shouldn't expect US addons by deffault.

Oh. And the Harrier is fantastic. I'm really impressed with how much it does within the game engine limits. Top job. Thanks so much <span id='postcolor'>

And I'm not asking the Falklands MOD team to make it.  I was just responding to DKM-Jaguar when he was saying that nobody should make a USMC version of this plane because there are too many U.S. addons and that the USMC version is a rip-off of the British Harrier, ect... ect...  

If the Falklands MOD team doesn't want to make a USMC version, that's cool.  I'm not demanding that.  I'm just hoping that they'll at the very least allow other addon makers to modify and/or retexture it into a USMC version.     As long as the Falklands MOD team gets the proper credit for the model and scripts I don't see anything wrong with that do you?

I read the readme that came with this harrier and I honestly hope that Col. Klink will not deny someone from using his model for a USMC harrier. But at least he says he'll let anyone use the scripts for it but that's just because he didn't write them. Anyhoo... it's a moot issue because so far I haven't seen anyone from BAS, TOW, or other MODs making US Marines express any interest in making a USMC version of this. But I hope that they will.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[hellfish6 7]

I would like to encourage anyone with talent to add the VTOL/STOL scripts to OFPMan1's Yak-38 and Yak-141. The readme, as I understand it, permits this. You may need OFPMan1's permission, though.

[-Ash- 0]

Any chance we could drop all the USMC Harrier talk, and concentrate on what the actual release is... A BRITISH Sea Harrier!