Poet 0 Posted May 8, 2003 I suspect maybe its something in the process you go through to use Group Rope ( Stop, Height, Group Rope ) earlier in the mission, as I was using that in my test mission as well with the same problem. When the rest of your men Rope, they're always told to Engage at Will, and when I Rope out, or land with them, and tell them to return to formation, they just get told to "All follow All." They'll still all follow commands like move to etc, but not in formation with me. Its like they create a seperate group that still follows my orders, but is not part of my group. Happens everytime with the MH47E, not just your mission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jacobaby Posted May 8, 2003 Have you tried giving them a formation? Or setting their combatmode to "aware" after getting out. I cant think of an obvious reason why they wouldnt follow orders, although I have noticed that they do move in two seperate groups in a kind of large V formation when they get out of the helo via any means. Not sure what this is related to though, any suggestions you have are welcomed TJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poet 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Well, I have to admit I haven't a clue now. Its nothing to do with Group Rope. I stuck a group of 12 on the desert island with a Empty MH47e, and tried different combinations of just getting them onboard, moving the chopper a little distance and then getting them all to disembark. If I got in as Pilot, then they were happy to fall back in formation with me when we got out. If I put 2 and 3 as Pilot and Gunner, then when I told the AI to disembark they - with 2 and 3 still in the chopper, the Return to Formation command told them all to "Follow 4" and they just stood there. - with 2 and 3 OUT of the chopper, the Return to Formation command told them all to "Follow 2" and again they stood around ( looking pretty it has to be said ) I tried the same with standard BIS Inf. and Chinook, and didnt have any problem, they fell back into formation everytime. BUT!!! I tried once with no.4 and 5 ( BAS ) as Pilot and Gunner and when we all disembarked, they snapped straight back into formation! Could it be something that happens to your group when one of them becomes pilot? Though I finally found out how to get AI to land a normal chopper ( never realised "Disembark" would do that! ), so at least learnt something! ( and makes it a lot more likely I can convert my Co-op missions for SP! ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jacobaby Posted May 8, 2003 This kind of user feedback is really great, and contributes a lot to helping us improve, thanks a lot. (it also saves me a load of time better spent making MH60's do pretty things ) Can you try and determine if it is the BAS units (deltas/rangers) that have the effect tied to them, or whether it is the BAS Mh47E that causes the thing. And then it would be GREAT if you could pop it al on an official bug report form BAS Bug Report page And we can have a look see at some point in the future. Again, thanks you for your help, it is much appreciated. TJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poet 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Only too happy to help. But, do you have an email address I can send the bug report to, or can I PM it through the forums? I spend 20 minutes typing out the report, and the webform wouldnt let me send it because it won't accept punctuation marks, even though I spent a further 20 minutes going through it and removing them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted May 9, 2003 Sorry about the problems Poet. The Bug Report Form is validated to only accept . , and ? as punctuation, and is limited to about 5000 characters. I will review it now, and make some additional changes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poet 0 Posted May 9, 2003 Cool. The Report form isnt too much of a problem, but I wish it would have indicated that it only accepts those characters BEFORE I'd started typing my mini-essay. Maybe have a lil pop-up box stating it, would have really helped. Anyway, I still have a copy of the original report, with brackets and all, and can send it where u like, as even after removing all the offending marks I could see, the form still wouldnt accept the report. Let me know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jacobaby Posted May 9, 2003 e mail to me plz boanerges AT clara.co.uk TJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt_Phoenix 0 Posted May 11, 2003 Great chopper guys..... Really enjoyed messing about with it Any chance of you lending your expertise to other addon makers if they approach you? Would love to see a RAF Chinook with landies in the back, or slung underneath. (Maybe a job for UKForces?) Any, thanx for this excellent chopper, and eagerly awaiting further releases from BAS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jacobaby Posted May 12, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lt_Phoenix @ 11 May 2003,18:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Any chance of you lending your expertise to other addon makers if they approach you? Would love to see a RAF Chinook with landies in the back, or slung underneath. (Maybe a job for UKForces?)<span id='postcolor'> Just to let you know we already do co-operate with other addon teams, and they with us. These include but are not limited to DKM, Red Star Studios, UK Forces and so on..... I deliberately made the scripting side of the MH47E as simple as possible, so that the features are more easily ported and understood, as the scripting side seems to present more trouble than anything to the talented modellers etc. BAS hosts UKForces forum, and the co-operation there is especially tight. Thanks for the comments TJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DKM-jaguar Posted May 13, 2003 What did we do?? Damn my loafing.. must've missed the bit where i was told we co-operated.. still, i think it is an AMAZING idea that the two teams [and the others] work together. BTW, notice how you got less bug reports for the beta MH-47E? maybe we should just release all our addons [DKM's and everyone elses] under the name of beta, so no one will expect it to be perfect... no one reports bugs when you invite them too  but i dont release addons..only campaigns that aim for everything to be exactly how it would be according to the doctrines of those armies involved.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites