The Dogs of War

[Tex -USMC- 0]

haha, Mr. Kelly is on a regular scenic tour of downtown Baghdad. First he's at the presidential palace, then he pops up at the national parade grounds, and now they're saddling up again. My bet is he ends up at either the Ministry of Information or the Rashid Hotel very soon here.

[Oligo 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 07 2003,08:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Some 2nd Brigade troopers just blew up a statue of Saddam on a horse.<span id='postcolor'>

Why do they blow all that shit up? The Iraqis could sell all those statues in eBay after the war to get some cash, just like the russians did with Lenin statues.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Oligo @ April 07 2003,09:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 07 2003,08:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Some 2nd Brigade troopers just blew up a statue of Saddam on a horse.<span id='postcolor'>

Why do they blow all that shit up? The Iraqis could sell all those statues in eBay after the war to get some cash, just like the russians did with Lenin statues.<span id='postcolor'>

I think this one was a little too big for that. Also, there's been some reports that UK forces have found Chemical Ali's body in Basra. Can anyone confirm this?

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Oligo @ April 07 2003,10:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Iraqis could sell all those statues in eBay after the war to get some cash, just like the russians did with Lenin statues.<span id='postcolor'>

Yes. With their speedy ADSL connections. Of course.

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 07 2003,10:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also, there's been some reports that UK forces have found Chemical Ali's body in Basra. Can anyone confirm this?<span id='postcolor'>

http://www.reuters.com/newsArt....2518207

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1086505,00.html

[Col. Kurtz 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 07 2003,17:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also, there's been some reports that UK forces have found Chemical Ali's body in Basra. Can anyone confirm this?<span id='postcolor'>

At this point it seems that only AP is reporting this, but BBC did talk to a RAF Group Captian PR guy (all the British PR people seem to be RAF) did mention it, but he could not confirm it.

*Edit* Well it looks like other places are starting to report it, but no real proof yet.

[theavonlady 2]

FYI, near the start of the war, Iraqi TV showed a manufacturers plate, claimed to be from a missile, that was clearly marked as being manufactured by Israel Military Industries.

No one here (us common folk, that is) could figure out what it came from until I saw a report on local TV this morning about the ITALD.

[Guest]

They just showed some nasty pictures on Swedish TV, apparently from Baghdad: A Bradley got hit by an RPG and started burning. Two of the crew and some people riding in the back jumped out, on fire. Then the Bradley exploded.

Ĺsne Seierstad is reporting live and says that fights around the presidential palace are raging. She just hit the deck a second ago (she's outside in a park, in the center). Apparently the fighting is far from over and the US troops have not withdrawn as some reports say.

There's a sand storm raging so the visibility is pretty low.

A Swedish colonel who is an authority on urban combat says that the fact that the US troops have reached so far inside is clear evidence that the Iraqis have not been able to organize themselves. Modern doctrine dictates that you have to go in with 6:1 force to take an urban center. The fact that the US troops have been able to push so far indicates that the Iraqi resistance has been overestimated.

The Iraqis have blown several bridges.

LOL. They're showing pictures of Saddam's toilet

[Col. Kurtz 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 07 2003,18:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A Swedish colonel who is an authority on urban combat says that the fact that the US troops have reached so far inside is clear evidence that the Iraqis have not been able to organize themselves. Modern doctrine dictates that you have to go in with 6:1 force to take an urban center. The fact that the US troops have been able to push so far indicates that the Iraqi resistance has been overestimated.<span id='postcolor'>

Or they for some reason I cannot really explain they are waiting. Maybe they plan to let the Americans come in then fight them once they are starting to get confortable. Wait until the US troops are far into the centre of Baghdad then form up and incircle them. Maybe.

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 07 2003,11:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They just showed some nasty pictures on Swedish TV, apparently from Baghdad: A Bradley got hit by an RPG and started burning. Two of the crew and some people riding in the back jumped out, on fire. Then the Bradley exploded.<span id='postcolor'>

Been on Reuters for a while:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArt....2518469

[WhoCares 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 07 2003,10:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Iraqis have blown several bridges.<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Or they for some reason I cannot really explain they are waiting. Maybe they plan to let the Americans come in then fight them once they are starting to get confortable. Wait until the US troops are far into the centre of Baghdad then form up and incircle them. Maybe. <span id='postcolor'>

Maybe those two together make some sense. Wouldn't be to stupid to blow up a bridge after some troops have crossed it...

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 07 2003,11:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL. They're showing pictures of Saddam's toilet <span id='postcolor'>

Time to collect DNA evidence to sort out the real Saddam from the doubles.

Anyone from the US remember the TV game show "To Tell The Truth"? I can just imagine:

Contestant #1: "I am NOT Saddam Hussein!"

Contestant #2: "I am NOT Saddam Hussein!"

Contestant #3: "I am NOT Saddam Hussein!"

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WhoCares @ April 07 2003,12:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Maybe those two together make some sense. Wouldn't be to stupid to blow up a bridge after some troops have crossed it...<span id='postcolor'>

If the coalition controls the river banks, they will have pontoon bridges across pretty soon, if they need them.

[WhoCares 0]

I just wonder how much control of the banks they have, when the iraqis manage to blow up bridges.

However, many unknown factors here - did they blew them up right now or two days back? Have allied forces already reached the bridges they blew up or were those bridges in another part of town? ...

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WhoCares @ April 07 2003,12:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I just wonder how much control of the banks they have, when the iraqis manage to blow up bridges.

However, many unknown factors here - did they blew them up right now or two days back? Have allied forces already reached the bridges they blew up or were those bridges in another part of town? ...<span id='postcolor'>

Read the Reuters article. This is a battle for the bridges. Sounds like they just got there.

There are numerous bridges in the Baghdad area. Nothing is really clear without a map and pointing at the areas in question.

[Potatoman 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ April 07 2003,11:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Been on Reuters for a while:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArt....2518469<span id='postcolor'>

Umm that was an AAV not a bradley.

[theavonlady 2]

1--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Potatoman @ April 07 2003,131)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ April 07 2003,11:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Been on Reuters for a while:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArt....2518469<span id='postcolor'>

Umm that was an AAV not a bradley.<span id='postcolor'>

In addition, all Bradleys are amphibious.

edit: you haven't been playing OFP enough.

[Guest]

Not the same footage. The one I was refering to was near the palace and it was a Bradley.

[Potatoman 0]

5--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ April 07 2003,125)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">addition, all Bradleys are amphibious.

edit: you haven't been playing OFP enough.<span id='postcolor'>

Do the USMC have Bradleys?  

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ April 07 2003,13:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In addition, all Bradleys are amphibious.

edit: you haven't been playing OFP enough. <!--emo&<span id='postcolor'>

Ooops. Search The FAQ for "amphibious".

Strange. BIS?

[theavonlady 2]

Breaking news: Possible WMD site in Baghdad.

Note that up till now, all such previous reports have turned out to be negative.

[theavonlady 2]

Besides soldiers, 2 more journalists killed today in southern Baghdad.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArt....2520214

Names not mentioned yet.

[theavonlady 2]

For those who still have any doubts about US presence in Baghdad:

[theavonlady 2]

Palestinian, Jordanian gunmen fighting in Baghdad, by Caroline Glick, Jerusalem Post (JPost subscribers only).

[PFC_Mike 2]

Saddam has entered the ranks of the WTF club: "Well and Truly Fucked"

He'll be in good company with Hitler.

So much for a quagmire.