FSPilot 0 Posted May 31, 2003 @ May 31 2003,13:10)]No. No no no. The FBI is through and through a law enforcement and counter-intelligence organization. Like the police. Â But it's funded and organised by the state, like the military. I was under the impression that it mainly served to back up police organisations in cross state crime, where you may otherwise get jurisdictional problems. That makes the state funding and controll thing necesary. Has absolutely nothing to do with or a kin to the army. Also it having more resources in both manpower, technology and knowledge-of-the-trade that may not be available to local police due to simple funding problems. The local sheriff might have a hard time trying to get funds for an electron microscope thats why I'm saying it's like the military, it's funded and run by the state (like the military) but it solves major crimes (like the police). this one's for you fubar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 31, 2003 Just because it is funded by the government does not mean it has anything to do with the military. FBI is a federal police force. The're cops, not military. They arrest criminals, they don't drive tanks and invade other countries. The Department of Agriculture is also funded and run by the state and it also has nothing to do with the military. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted May 31, 2003 Ok, now read my post. They are like the military because they are funded and run by the state. They are like the police because they solve major crimes. I never said they were the military. edit - and who said the homeless were innocent? http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/05/31/rudolph.arrest/index.html Quote[/b] ]Cherokee County Sheriff Keith Lovin confirmed a deputy arrested a man believed to Rudolph without a struggle after he was found behind a business in the western North Carolina town of Murphy. The sheriff said the man appeared to be homeless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 31, 2003 They are like the military because they are funded and run by the state. They're not like the military. They like the military are funded and run by the state but that doesn't mean that they are like the military. Being funded by the state is not related to their field of operation. Saying that FBI is like the military because they are funded and run by the state is the same as saying that FBI is like the Congress becuase they are both funded and run by the state. Which is an entirely pointless statement just like your comparison with the military. FBI are cops. Period. Not military. Which is also why they have primary responsibility for counter-terrorism - since this is generally a police issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kued de Yar 0 Posted May 31, 2003 Now I will admit, I only read about the first page, but its the morning and Im lazy, so Ill just throw in my two cents. Form the article itself, it did not like like a very good source, had they given links, maybe. Even if they did resort to toture these guys got what they asked for when they joined up with a terrorist organization, its not like they are real troops, so I am not crying for them. Not saying we didnt do it, I just doesnt seem like we would admit it, but I will say one thing, why do those gusy have such great living conditions down there in Cuba, and now Im not being sarcastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted May 31, 2003 I think the US govt. actually confessed to this though. Denoir Quote[/b] ]They're not like the military. They like the military are funded and run by the state but that doesn't mean that they are like the military. You're still not reading what I say. I didn't say they're like the military in that they march around and salute and call higher ranking officers sir. I said they are like the military because, like the military, they are funded and run by the state. The military is also funded and run by the state. So the FBI and the military are similar in that they are both funded and run by the state. Quote[/b] ]FBI are cops. Period. Not military. Which is also why they have primary responsibility for counter-terrorism - since this is generally a police issue. I never said they wree the military, I never said they were the cops. I said they have some aspects that are similar to the military, and some that are similar to the police. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 31, 2003 DenoirQuote[/b] ]They're not like the military. They like the military are funded and run by the state but that doesn't mean that they are like the military. You're still not reading what I say. Â I didn't say they're like the military in that they march around and salute and call higher ranking officers sir. Â I said they are like the military because, like the military, they are funded and run by the state. Â The military is also funded and run by the state. Â So the FBI and the military are similar in that they are both funded and run by the state. And I said that it is an extremely stupid argument. Here are other such equivalent comments: [*]FBI are like lap dancers beacause they have female employees. [*]FBI are like terrorists because they carry guns. [*]FBI are like farmers since they live in houses. [*]FBI are like the Department of Agriculture because they wear shoes. When you are comparing two organizations you generally want to compare their activities and not some odd factor that they may have in common. FBI is a federal police force and has many similarities with regular police forces. FBI does not have much in common with the military. Hence FBI is like the police and not the military. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted May 31, 2003 *bangs head against wall* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kued de Yar 0 Posted May 31, 2003 Hmmm, this seems like an argument from school, where one side knows he is wrong but will not admit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted May 31, 2003 I'm like Osama Bin Laden because we're both people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted May 31, 2003 @ May 30 2003,21:01)]I'm like Osama Bin Laden because we're both people. *TERRORIST ALARM, TERRORIST ALARM!!!!* "Go get him folks!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted May 31, 2003 I'm not repeating this again. Try reading it aloud. The FBI is like the military because they both have something in common. What's that you might ask? Well they're both funded and run by the state. No, the FBI is not the military. But yes, they are similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted May 31, 2003 No, the FBI is not the military. Â But yes, they are similar. So, my public school is similar to the military, because they both get federal money? Come on, I just want to hear you say it. A school is the same as an army because.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 31, 2003 I'm not repeating this again. Â Try reading it aloud.The FBI is like the military because they both have something in common. What's that you might ask? Â Well they're both funded and run by the state. No, the FBI is not the military. Â But yes, they are similar. People unfamiliar with the Iraq thread have often wondered what exactly "Pulling an FSPilot" means. Well, ladies and gentlemen, look at this FBI discussion on the last two pages and you'll understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted May 31, 2003 I'm not repeating this again. Â Try reading it aloud.The FBI is like the military because they both have something in common. What's that you might ask? Â Well they're both funded and run by the state. No, the FBI is not the military. Â But yes, they are similar. People unfamiliar with the Iraq thread have often wondered what exactly "Pulling an FSPilot" means. Well, ladies and gentlemen, look at this FBI discussion on the last two pages and you'll understand. You know, we should find a way to keep these conversations. We should save them... priceless stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted May 31, 2003 @ June 01 2003,01:25)]No, the FBI is not the military. Â But yes, they are similar. So, my public school is similar to the military, because they both get federal money? Come on, I just want to hear you say it. A school is the same as an army because.... You guys must be dense or something. I'm not saying that the FBI is the military. I am saying that the FBI is similar to the military because they are both run and funded by the state. If I have a red truck and I see someone with a red car, my red truck is similar to that red car becaues they are both red, they both have something in common. This should be common sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted June 1, 2003 Your brain must process logic in a completely different way than the rest of us. The mind boggles! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewb99 0 Posted June 1, 2003 @ June 01 2003,01:25)]No, the FBI is not the military. Â But yes, they are similar. So, my public school is similar to the military, because they both get federal money? Come on, I just want to hear you say it. A school is the same as an army because.... You guys must be dense or something. I'm not saying that the FBI is the military. Â I am saying that the FBI is similar to the military because they are both run and funded by the state. If I have a red truck and I see someone with a red car, my red truck is similar to that red car becaues they are both red, they both have something in common. This should be common sense. Funding from the same place doesn't mean they're similar. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 1, 2003 Your brain must process logic in a completely different way than the rest of us. The mind boggles! I see communicating with FSPilot as an excersise in Zen philosophy. First you get frustrated, then you get annoyed, then you get angry, then you dispair and finally you separate mind from body, reach a higher level of existance and start writing haiku poems <table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">        no fspilot  peace prevails now in my mind     spring rain is falling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted June 1, 2003 LOL. Believe it or not I think I've grown to appreciate FSpilot, the "I can't believe he just said that" factor he posseses almost put me through the roof when I first came across it (defending Batista of all people), but you know, in a way this anti-logic is sort of refreshing in that it can let you see the world in such a wildly different perspective - and without having to pay the prohibitive price of hard drugs. I think that my acquaintance with him might even have saved my job in one or two occasions...he has definitely trained my patience, and God knows that working in the retail industry, especially customer service.....you sometimes need plenty of patience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted June 1, 2003 Glad I could be of service. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted June 1, 2003 Glad I could be of service.  Hey we love ya man, a blessing in disguise is what you are, kind of like horrible tasting but life saving medicine . I mean who else has a term named after them and poetry dedicated to them? Thanks in part to you, I am now able to keep my cool in situations such as: <span style='color:red'>DISCLAIMER</span> - the following stories are true, only the names have been changed to protect the mentally enfeebled, and since I didn't know them anyways nor did I care to. customer Are these eggs large caliber? me Yes they are ma'am. customer Ah they're large? me Yes  ma'am. customer So they're big? me ...they're large ma'am. Or customer Excuse me, do you see that Wet Floor sign? me yeah? customer I just tripped over it. It's a hazard, could you please remove it? me *stares at her blankly for half a minute to see if she's kidding...oh my God, she isn't....walk over, test the floor...it's dry. Ok whatever - take sign away* Yes sir, after knowing you, I am now the Zen Master . Keep it up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted June 1, 2003 I had similar experiences Tovarisch, when I worked in the customer service area of a mobile phone repair centre (this was a phone call): Customer I want a replacement keypad under warranty, sent out to me Me I'm sorry, we can't supply those as they need to be fitted by a technician, so you will need to send your phone in to us Customer What do you mean? Why does a technician need to be involved...I just want a new keypad sent to me Me We cannot ship out parts that require a technician to install them, it is a violation of our service agreement with the phone manufacturer Customer But I want a replacement keypad! ...20 minutes later (yes, literally) I finally deduce she means a replacement phone not just a keypad... Me Oh, you wan't a replacement phone handset... Customer That's what I said, a replacement keypad... Me No, a keypad is just a part of the phone, not the whole phone Customer Its the same thing! (sarcastic voice) Will a phone work without a keypad? Me No... Customer Then it's the same thing! Me ...sigh... Well, a car won't work without sparkplugs, but that doesn't make a sparkplug a car, does it? This conversation was finally concluded thusly, after I explained to her that her phone was out of warranty, could not be replaced, and was an obsolete model... Customer I wan't a f**king new f**king phone, OK! Me (in my most polite phone voice) I'm sorry ma'am, but I'm afraid I don't have to listen to that kind of language on the phone...goodbye. *click* ---------- Sorry to go offtopic, but the above post reminded of this classic conversation... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted June 1, 2003 Why is everybody denoirizing FSPilot's mild comparison of partial similarities between the FBI and a military organization? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted June 1, 2003 I don't know, why are you Wobbling in here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
