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Update: While I did find out the strategic layer for the AI mix, further testing has shown it would require an entire reworking for it to work cohesively. Unless you're will to make such ventures at AI development, your best bet is to use Smart AI Mix, Advanced AI Mix, or ASR AI 🙂

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In Arma 2 I absolutely loved the Zeus AI mod. It made singleplayer missions tremendously more exciting. I haven't found any AI mods for Arma 3 that do anything nearly as good. For anyone who is familiar with the Zeus AI mod, what should I be doing in Arma 3 to get an experience similar to that mod? Thanks

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keep playing missions in A2 with Zeus 🤣

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4 hours ago, AnthonyGonzales said:

I haven't found any AI mods for Arma 3 that do anything nearly as good.

Have you looked through my list?

 

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On 10/8/2020 at 7:47 AM, Gunter Severloh said:

Have you looked through my list?

 

The issue has more to do with Arma 3 AI just not being as good as Arma 2. Obviously you can make improvements to any of the AI in the Arma series via mods and scripts, but the winner seems to be A2 for a variety of reasons. Chris B had a whole channel dedicated toward studying it (Smart AI Mix) and I ended up continuing the idea through my own channel.

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7 hours ago, ZackTactical34 said:

The issue has more to do with Arma 3 AI just not being as good as Arma 2.

I see, sounds like a personal preference rather then actually proven by many tests to confirm and also to compare notes.

This is another list of mine that lists everything i've researched about the AI for Arma3

and what they do and how they function:

Aside my own work, there were many contributors who have done tests, ect,.

To bad there isn't a list like that for Arma2/OA then we could compare notes.

On 10/8/2020 at 2:00 AM, AnthonyGonzales said:

I haven't found any AI mods for Arma 3 that do anything nearly as good.

And ... where have you looked, and what mods have you looked at, tested?

There are many scripts and mods that do many things, not every mod covers every aspect of Ai enhancement.

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1 hour ago, Gunter Severloh said:

I see, sounds like a personal preference rather then actually proven by many tests to confirm and also to compare notes.

This is another list of mine that lists everything i've researched about the AI for Arma3

and what they do and how they function:

Aside my own work, there were many contributors who have done tests, ect,.

To bad there isn't a list like that for Arma2/OA then we could compare notes.

And ... where have you looked, and what mods have you looked at, tested?

There are many scripts and mods that do many things, not every mod covers every aspect of Ai enhancement.

Try it out yourself. I haven't seen adequate AI fluidity with response to contact or tactical cohesion. Here are some videos I documented that you can't find hitting the same mark with Arma 3:

AI Breaking Contact:

 

More AI Breaking Contact:

AI CQB Firefight:

AI Fireteam Movement w/ Cover:

Arma 3 AI Fireteam Movement w/ Cover:

 

You won't find any Arma 3 AI breaking contact with that level of cohesion or smoothness (just doesn't exist). I've also yet to see Arma 3 AI engage in a CQB firefight with the amount of cover and security they were implementing. The last two videos show how at the core, Arma 2 designed a much more realistic movement system for the AI. So, when I factor in their cover ability, their realistic accuracy (not the aimbot from Arma 3), their realistic movement/tactical cohesion, their use of smokes, garrison of homes, ability to flank, and much more, I stand to reason that the AI for Arma 2 is exceptional.

 

There is a reason that AI mod groups stayed back (and continue to stay back) due to Arma 3 simply not being as good (XMOD, KAI). I've even talked to other top Arma 3 AI mod developers who admitted Arma 2 AI are superior. I still think Arma 3 is a fun game, but nowhere near the simulator that Arma 2 is.

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Nice, most of the time when i play arma3 im mainly soloing it, not commanding AI although i can and have many a time, i would prefer the enemy AI have

good tactics, and what not to fight against, but Arma3 is my core game if that makes any sense, which is where i spend most of my time.

 

    I have and played all the games in the series since the beginning, Arma2 AI is pretty decent i do agree, but its not something i can play on a regular basis

at least not without my COWarMod 😉

I'm rather laid back when it comes to the games in the series, most of my focus when i play is not so much what the AI are wearing, carrying and or doing provided

what they have and are doing are decent and believable, the more the merrier but my main thing is efficiency, function, and best performance in my own

execution of things, i dont really care that the AI aren't 100% with all their skills, or dont do this or that, it just dont do nothing for me, it dont change how i feel about the game

for me its about what i can do against them, i just want someone to shoot at and at least give me a nice challenge and they do.

 

       If i want to step it up a notch i will use a script or mod to change things otherwise it dont bother me.

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