Aaron Kane 0 Posted January 22, 2003 Guys, back in the day there were countless arguments about whose combat equipment was better. F22 vs Su37, M1A2 vs T80U, RAH66 vs KA52. And not once did anyone EVER change their mind on what they felt was the best vehicle. All that happened was flame wars, name calling, and other childish behavior. So lets just drop this helicopter argument before it gets started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted January 22, 2003 which makes things interesting I once read that some helicopters have little spikes above and below the cockpit so if a chopper was to be doing some low level flight and ran into some electrical wires the small spikes were designed to cut the cable so the helicopter didnt get tangled.it looks like the apache doesn`t have such devices on it from the pictures. I wonder what it would be like if instead of having cargo space in the hind u stuck loads of ammo and had about 6 minguns mounted in it ps, i hate flying choppers in ofp becuase whenever i use my wingman digital 3d joystick the rudders magicly disable themselves so i have to use keys adn cant do all the funky hit in a chopper however its not bad for planes though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BratZ Posted January 23, 2003 Sorry to bear sorta off topic but was mentioned about ejection seats...It just sounds so funny to hear that at first when talking choppers as they must flip you out sideways...any info on that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr. Duck 0 Posted January 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sorry to bear sorta off topic but was mentioned about ejection seats...It just sounds so funny to hear that at first when talking choppers as they must flip you out sideways...any info on that?<span id='postcolor'> I've seen something about ejection seats for choppers. First they shoot off the rotors and then eject the pilots. It was mentioned that such a device wasn't really reliable though. But that's what they've said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted January 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Gollum1 @ Jan. 22 2003,19:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And the Ka-52 has twin rotors and ejector seats.<span id='postcolor'> Can someone please give me a link or info about just how exactly these work? They shoot them out the side? Seems down would be the bad way to go... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Kane 0 Posted January 23, 2003 If I'm not mistaken, a small explosive charge blows the rotors off the helicopter. Then VERY shortly after, the ejection seat launches the pilot and copilot upwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted January 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aaron Kane @ Jan. 23 2003,02:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If I'm not mistaken, a small explosive charge blows the rotors off the helicopter. Then VERY shortly after, the ejection seat launches the pilot and copilot upwards.<span id='postcolor'> Huh... Has this been tested? Presumably they blow the rotors one way and the pilots another... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
second_draw 0 Posted January 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Akira @ Jan. 23 2003,01:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Gollum1 @ Jan. 22 2003,19:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And the Ka-52 has twin rotors and ejector seats.<span id='postcolor'> Can someone please give me a link or info about just how exactly these work? They shoot them out the side? Seems down would be the bad way to go...<span id='postcolor'> The only example i know of is in Goldeneye (james bond). Rent it and see it for yourself. The cockpit is a capsule which gets fired off like in some high velocity planes (f-111). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted January 23, 2003 It's like Aaron Kane and Second_draw says: each blade is blown off by a small charge, then the cockpit is ejected with mounted parachutes. Back to the topic, please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted January 23, 2003 Thought I would just slide this in quickly so people can sleep at night. "Ka-52 Hokum B "Alligator" "...Another unusual feature of this helicopter is the "Pilot Rescue" capability by way of the K-37-800 ejection seat which was first fitted to the Ka-50 (the first helicopter in the world to be fitted with an ejector seat). Once the ejection handle has been pulled, a very carefully timed series of events take place. First, explosive charges in the rotor blade roots are detonated resulting in the separation of all 6 blades (this is potentially dangerous for any nearby onlookers). Both cockpit canopies are ejected sideways then the towing rocket on both ejection seats fire in low-thrust mode. When the towing-line is pulled taught the rocket increases thrust pulling the seat up on its mounting rails and out of the helicopter. After the rocket burn, the seat falls away and a cute is deployed. This ejection can be performed throughout the entire flight envelope including inverted flight (given a minimum altitude of 90 meters). Should a pilot eject over water, the seat is also fitted with survival pack and life raft. A survival beacon is activated automatically on ejection..." Even inverted! Neat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinef 2 Posted January 24, 2003 The article over exaggerated the Apache's capabilities but that's not suprising as it is American. Yeah the KA-50 is cool, it could be useful to have on some of our helicopters as well. Or we could just buy them off the Russians. Trees are not good for any helicopter, true they can withstand them but are you as a pilot with the responsibility of 12 lives and an Å50 million Super Puma going to take the risk that the trees are small enough to cut through? No you are not. Plus trees can hide obstacles that can definitely fuck you over - like birds. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted January 24, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Shadow @ Jan. 23 2003,12:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Back to the topic, please <span id='postcolor'> AH 64 Manual There ya go. On topic, and just what you asked for, Mr Shadow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted January 24, 2003 Thanks, Warin That's one of them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
