Arma 3 Apex: Old Man Feedback

[Ex3B 268]

5 hours ago, h - said:

- On this topic, the skate helmet worn by some police doesn't appear to be a valid costume part because wearing such uniform composition stays at red exclamation marks

I just wanted to point out that the Skate helmet is one of the few pieces of armor that you can wear without getting any exclamation points at all. I guess it makes sense if it is actually a skate helmet, but it should still be coded to be a valied disguise piece if they show Gendarmes using the skate helmet (and I'm glad they do, I used to use it for them before any official BI content had them using it... the color does match after all).

 

Strangely, the black basic helmet also gets a red exclamation point (I'm unsure if it does in combo with Gendarme gear, I rarely use gendarme gear instead of CSAT gear)... apparently a basic helmet is forbidden military equipment...

 

An EOD vest on the other hand is just fine to carry around (really bad storage though, bring a backpack). I wonder if other colors of basic helmet are acceptable... if so, one should be able to walk around with an EOD vest and a helmet (with neckguard even?), without attacting attention... until you pull the SMG/ADR-97/carbine out of your backpack 😛

 

 

 

[rübe 127]

4 hours ago, seacaptainjim said:

I'm looking forward to Oldman II: Older man

What are the chances of Oldman being secretly just a test-run for something similar, even bigger in the next installment of Arma?

Open world cartel wars, or something. 😊

 

2 hours ago, Ex3B said:

Well, I don't mind that the game presses you on time, it doesn't have to be exactly GTA: Tanoa.

Even if so, tasks should not just fail silently and then the player is silently screwed and out of luck. Bad design. Especially with the very first introduction mission (Arthur).

[pierremgi 4944]

The old man is a good scenario but, overall, the dev(s) should master the way to save game (in general). I'm rather sure some parameters are lost. I never ended this mission due to 3 "lost" tasks (even if the goal was completed). Despite an increasing long loading for resuming the mission.

 

[h - 169]

4 hours ago, Ex3B said:

I think there was a bandana variant that took the glasses slot and coveredthe nose and mouth rather than the top of the skull?

In addition to the correct uniform and helmet you need to wear something that covers at least your lower face, like the bandana. And you need to wear this regardless if the helmet you're wearing actually covers your face, like the Viper helmet.
Weapon, vest or the backpack doesn't matter.

You can find a press vest and blue basic helmet in the mission which you can wear without any exclamation marks, and both have some armor so it eases off dying a bit.
Of course once you get a Viper costume you kinda don't wanna let it go.


I like all the environmental sounds that seems to have been added, like the clothes on clotheslines making sounds in the wind, same for the chain link fences, etc.
At least I don't recall hearing those in vanilla.

[TommyNage 0]

11 hours ago, Ex3B said:

I've never gotten all green yet. I'm using a viper suit and a viperhelmet, and still at orange....

 

Also, did I read right, a 5.8mm suppessor, not a 6.5? I've been wanting one of those for a while, for use with a CAR-95-1, and its abundant ammo supply. CUrrently making due with a CMR-76, but that ammo isn't quite as abundant. The CMR has its advantages, but I really want the CAR-95-1 for a more general purpose weapon with better CQB utility.

 

This is about the closest you can get without getting harassed by the squad leader. Also the 5.8mm suppressor, I snatched off a dead recon scout's body.

[Ex3B 268]

6 hours ago, TommyNage said:

This is about the closest you can get without getting harassed by the squad leader. Also the 5.8mm suppressor, I snatched off a dead recon scout's body.

Question: where did you encounter this recon scout? I haven't seen them show up as part of a normal QRF, but I know there are predetermined enemies in certain areas with special weapons (like the checkpoint north of vagalala has a machine gunner with a Navid).

 

Someone here referenced getting that supressor as part of the special QRF to the virus upload, but if there were some place I could go and get it right now... that would be great.

[RedEye Mouse 0]

I played all over today and again I cant finish with Samjo , I get counteragent from Keystone... go to the blue van, put counteragent in the box and nothing happens.

with the doctor... I do everything and then I need to escape and I get out of the map an again nothing happens 😞

[a_killer_wombat 120]

Playing Old Man has helped me realise how useful it would be to have a civilian flashlight/torch in Arma 3. If you wish to remain incognito and avoid suspicion, exploring on-foot at night is near impossible due to the only illumination options being weapon mounted flashlights and NVGs, both of which are considered military gear and would blow your cover.

 

If BI added a civilian flashlight/torch, we would have a non suspicious illumination option when moving on-foot incognito. I'm sure it would be a useful asset for the community outside of Old Man as well (e.g. Altis Life, Antistasi, etc.)

[Shift 10]

On 4/27/2020 at 1:42 PM, Ex3B said:

Did you turn the radar on? I got locks and fired AA missiles just fine

 

Yes i tried with both radar on and radar off.

 

On 4/27/2020 at 1:42 PM, Ex3B said:

Does anyone know if its possible to get a 5.8mm suppressor?

 

Yes. Go to the big volcano area, where the secondary and mobile AA radars are. Around those bases there are patrols of 4 CSAT soldiers with supressed CARs and CMRs. The patrols are quite abundant at least in my game, i was even killed by one while laying on a hill sniping another one in the distance.

[Shift 10]

Alright, i'm in my first playthrough, and today after i saved game and fast travelled across the map i got a black screen. I could walk and do stuff but couldnt see anything, the screen was black even when you press M for map, and i think i even heard the sound of map opening but nothing on the screen. So i tried to load the save and game crashed with 0xC000041D - STATUS_FATAL_USER_CALLBACK_EXCEPTION. Restarted game, tried to resume the campaing, crashed with the same error. I need a fix, i'm not going to replay all the tedious hours i spent getting a neophron, a repair, ammo and fuel truck, gettin all the gear, money, etc.

 

I saved crash report but cant figure out how to attach it.

[norinori 0]

呼び出したゲリラチームがダブルバレルショットガンや9㎜SMGを装備していますが、彼らの死体を調べると、それらの予備弾薬は所持しておらず、他のゲリラのようにAKMのマガジンなどしか持っていません。
四月の更新からこのような装備のゲリラが出てくるようになったと思います。もし彼らが適正な予備弾薬を持たされず、手に持った2発の散弾しか装備していないならとても戦力になりません。
これは仕様か不具合なのか気になります。

 

The called guerrilla team is equipped with a double barrel shotgun and a 9 mm SMG, but when they inspect their corpses, they do not have their reserve ammunition, and like other guerrillas they only have AKM magazines etc. Is not ...
I think guerrillas with such equipment have come out since the update in April. If they don't have the proper reserve ammo and are equipped with only two shots in their hands, they aren't very powerful.
I am wondering if this is a specification or a defect.

[h - 169]

15 hours ago, a_killer_wombat said:

weapon mounted flashlights and NVGs, both of which are considered military gear

I have been running around with NVG since the first time I got my hands on them and never had any trouble because of them

[Ex3B 268]

7 hours ago, Shift said:

Yes. Go to the big volcano area, where the secondary and mobile AA radars are. Around those bases there are patrols of 4 CSAT soldiers with supressed CARs and CMRs. The patrols are quite abundant at least in my game, i was even killed by one while laying on a hill sniping another one in the distance.

Hmmm, I guess that's what I get from taking the cheesy way... I just destroyed those radars with rockets from the Xian

[rübe 127]

On 4/30/2020 at 3:11 PM, Ex3B said:

a 5.8mm supressor

 

I've been also looking for one. I did finally get a set of them over at Momea (103133). Just murder the few CSAT boys in town, and if the Gendarmerie shows up, you murder them as well. Chances are some CSAT recon team will show up too, sooner or later (I guess certain locations have a different pool of quick response forces; up north seems to be great).

Then again, my game was kind of crapping out at this point for some reason: the calling for Syndikat "distraction" thing broke with one such attack being stuck and never removed again, and then a new call was immediately answered with "distraction successful" and nothing happened (chances are it broke while I tried to give sniper support from a distance while distracting them with Syndikat boys. Too much of a distance, I think, since I had trouble with things spawning/despawning. Bummer.), so I quick traveled to Momea, which did not quick travel me there, instead it marked the save house there as target for the Syndikat attack/distraction. So I try to travel there again, this time it works, and as I arrive guys were already shooting. And all of a sudden such a CSAT recon team walks in as well.

 

I tried to check the RPT, and the first thing I've noticed was that it gets spammed with:

 2:38:14 Join to another group

up to 50(!) times a minute. Nonstop. What's that about?

Anyways, other than the occasional:

 3:09:33 Error: Failed to open file a3\dubbing_f_oldman\barks\awareness\csat_awareness_wt_36_chinese04_processed.wav
 3:09:33 Sound: Error: File: a3\dubbing_f_oldman\barks\awareness\csat_awareness_wt_36_chinese04_processed.wav not found !!!

for various such sound files, this one here might be related to the thing that broke my Syndikat support:

3:43:54 File a3\Missions_F_Oldman\Systems\UI\SyndikatTeam\RscDatetimeSlider.inc, line 73: '/RscDatetimeSelector/Controls/ButtonConfirm.action': Missing ';' at the end of line
3:43:54 File a3\Missions_F_Oldman\Systems\UI\SyndikatTeam\RscDatetimeSlider.inc, line 92: '/RscDatetimeSelector/Controls/MySlider.onSliderPosChanged': Missing ';' prior '}'
3:43:54 File a3\Missions_F_Oldman\Systems\UI\Rsc_OM_Slider.inc, line 181: '/RscRestUI/Controls/TitleDescription.text': Missing ';' at the end of line
3:43:54 File a3\Missions_F_Oldman\Systems\UI\Rsc_OM_Slider.inc, line 220: '/RscRestUI/Controls/numberTitle.text': Missing ';' at the end of line
3:43:54 File A3\Missions_F_Oldman\Campaign\Missions\cfgQuests_Syndikat.inc, line 18: '/cfgQuests/SupportQuestTemplate_SyndikatAgent/StateModifiers/Assigned.code': Missing ';' at the end of line
3:43:54 File A3\Missions_F_Oldman\Campaign\Missions\cfgQuests_Syndikat.inc, line 23: '/cfgQuests/SupportQuestTemplate_SyndikatAgent/StateModifiers/Progressing.code': Missing ';' at the end of line

Maybe @Dedmen want to have a look a this some time? Also the save files are still growing huge (I'm back to ~200mb). I wonder if it's all the radio's that keep piling up. 😅

 

[Ex3B 268]

15 hours ago, norinori said:

呼び出したゲリラチームがダブルバレルショットガンや9㎜SMGを装備していますが、彼らの死体を調べると、それらの予備弾薬は所持しておらず、他のゲリラのようにAKMのマガジンなどしか持っていません。
四月の更新からこのような装備のゲリラが出てくるようになったと思います。もし彼らが適正な予備弾薬を持たされず、手に持った2発の散弾しか装備していないならとても戦力になりません。
これは仕様か不具合なのか気になります。

 

The called guerrilla team is equipped with a double barrel shotgun and a 9 mm SMG, but when they inspect their corpses, they do not have their reserve ammunition, and like other guerrillas they only have AKM magazines etc. Is not ...
I think guerrillas with such equipment have come out since the update in April. If they don't have the proper reserve ammo and are equipped with only two shots in their hands, they aren't very powerful.
I am wondering if this is a specification or a defect.

I also had them poorly equipped like that. Then I just kept doing attacks with them so they could "level up". When they are at level 0, I'd see mostly guys with a Kozlice and Pm9mm handguns, and maybe 1 guy with an AK with only 1 magazine.

At level 2 they were using RPKs, tac vests, Ak12s, atc

17 hours ago, Shift said:

Yes. Go to the big volcano area, where the secondary and mobile AA radars are. Around those bases there are patrols of 4 CSAT soldiers with supressed CARs and CMRs. The patrols are quite abundant at least in my game, i was even killed by one while laying on a hill sniping another one in the distance.

Ah, thanks, I went there, sniped one from 500+ meters with a silenced CMR, and the other 3 just kept on walking. I was able to walk over to the dead recon and take the 5.8mm suppressor.

I'm now going around with Viper suit+Helmet, Woodland Carrier rig special, assault pack (woodland) or some other backpack, and a green hex CAR-95-1 with a suppressor and AMS during the day (ARCO or NVS during the night).

 

On 4/30/2020 at 6:57 AM, TommyNage said:

This is how I finished the virus upload:

 

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I eliminated everyone in the CSAT base south of Miller's position. I went inside the tent behind the CSAT flagpole, uploaded the virus to the CPU on the right. Afterwards I went to the power supply on the left corner of the tent and restarted it. Miller called with incoming reinforcements so I waited outside, RPG at the ready. A chopper showed up, I shot it and obtained 5.8mm stealth suppressors from the passengers. The end.

 

I finally got past virus upload, no bug encountered on the release version. Because of your comment, I didn't take the ID card, just so I could get that QRF with suppressors. What I got was an armed Orca with a squad of Viper, all with a conventional loadout: wielding Type 115s with 6.5mm suppressors.

It wasn't a total waste though, I had a qilin with a minigun parked nearby, and I shredded the crew+viper team, and was able to get the Orca (it needed some repairs, but I had a toolkit and flew it back home where I had a repair offroad).

 

Its often more convenient than taking a Xian.

 

[Shift 10]

10 hours ago, Ex3B said:

Hmmm, I guess that's what I get from taking the cheesy way... I just destroyed those radars with rockets from the Xian

 

I did too, but then much later in the game i went there to test the militia attack function. I was nearby since militia was attacking the nearby checkpoint, which is very close to a safe house, so i teleported there and cleared the checkpoint, and then i wanted to test the assault function and since those bases were the closest to me, i chose one of them as target and went there. But the attack didnt happen, from what i understood, even though the base was manned. Had to clear it alone. 

[Shift 10]

12 minutes ago, Ex3B said:

I had a repair offroad

 

There are repair offroads? You mean like jeeps? Where to get one?

[Ex3B 268]

39 minutes ago, Shift said:

 

There are repair offroads? You mean like jeeps? Where to get one?

Yes, you've at least seen them on in the editor, on the wiki?

https://armedassault.fandom.com/wiki/Offroad#Offroad (Services)

Only the FIA version says "repair" in the name, but the "Services" is also a repair offroad. There's on in vagalala, and I've seen others around, but I don't remember where. I also saw a repair van... I think in Georgetown, but not certain, I did mark it on my map, may post later.

 

Look for one of these guys

[Shift 10]

25 minutes ago, Ex3B said:

Yes, you've at least seen them on in the editor, on the wiki?

 

No, never knew such thing existed in Arma 3

[Variable 322]

This bug is reported in three different places and now here comes the fourth (see below other reports). The diving mission ("recover intel") is bugged. When I get a rebreather (either by buying one or by stealing one from the suggested location) the associated task does not tick. In addition, grabbing the intel from the sunken plane does not complete the recover intel task. The player can use the "hold space key" to get the intel but can also "physically" take the files, which makes the hold key action disappear. Maybe that has something to do with it? In any case, @zozo can we please receive a fix to it? it's the second time I restart the whole campaign and it's still bugged.

Edit: This issue was also reported on the official Arma 3 discord in the Old Man Feedback thread. BIS please advise.

 

https://steamcommunity.com/app/107410/discussions/5/4086396624009415812/

 

 

 

[norinori 0]

ゲリラの支援を続けた結果、情報画面ではレベルアップがされたとありますが彼らの装備に変化は見られません。また、ゲリラの呼び出し可能人数が最大17人から0人になりました。武器をいくら与えても彼らの攻撃に参加しても呼び出し人数が増えません。サムジョは攻撃を手伝ってくれると言うのですが人数0人では口約束になってしまいます。
自分としてはこのゲームでオープンワールドという試みは刺激的だと思うのですが、無理のあるゲームであると思います。
また、再スタートのたびにチュートリアルを兼ねた一連の流れを数十分かけてやり直さなければならないため、ストレスが溜まります。
最初からゲリラに武器を与えたりすることができる方がリスタートしやすいです。

 

As a result of continued support of the guerrillas, the information screen says that the level has been improved, but there is no change in their equipment. The maximum number of guerrillas that can be called has been reduced from 17 to 0. No matter how many weapons you give, no matter how much you participate in their attacks, the number of people you call will not increase. Samjo says he will help with the attack, but with 0 people it's a verbal promise.
I think it's exciting to try open world in this game, but I think it's an unreasonable game.
Also, every time you restart, you have to redo a series of steps that doubles as a tutorial, and do it again, which causes stress.
It is easier to restart if you can give a weapon to the guerrilla from the beginning.

[rübe 127]

6 hours ago, Ex3B said:

CAR-95-1 with a suppressor

 

Same (just with an ERCO which is absolutely efficient for silent kills. A quick brrrt and all is fine; so much more reliable than a silenced pistol). Incredibly OP, given how silence kill/alarms work in this mission.

 

6 hours ago, Ex3B said:

Viper suit+Helmet

 

I think it's hilarious how you can show up with the whole Viper equipment to a Syndikat gig and they don't shoot you on sight. They most definitely should do so. Anything can happen with mixed equipment, until they properly recognize you. Many edge cases, I can see why they dropped this for Arma3 - hopefully not forever. A proper system, maybe with easily tweakable rules, could be splendid.

But yeah, Viper gear is super nice. I went for the NATO Stealth uniform + Helmet

Spoiler

found on a cache on a tiny island SE to the end boss island.

with regular NV goggles for the final act. And then I took a tank. The end.

 

6 hours ago, Ex3B said:

the Orca

 

ohhh. And I thought any of the armed vehicles (e.g. MSE-3 Marid, or a BTR-K) was already as OP as it gets. Not sure if that's a good thing, or some really heavy response forces should show up and rape your ass as soon as you operate such heavier equipment? Basically making it a pointless suicide mission. And not something that is so easily tricked like the jets that show up sometimes.

 

5 hours ago, Ex3B said:

a repair van... I think in Georgetown

 

Yes. It's mine now.

Spoiler

I think there's a scripted event the first time you show up there, driving down the road. Or that was one hell of a coincidence. A Syndikat mg-jeep came down there too, followed by a small Syndikat army. They murdered them all. And then even a Syndikat patrol showed up, as if that is their territory now. That was pretty cool. I just watched and maybe murdered one gendarme.

And if you then keep driving around the island in the NW part, you come across another lovely scene at the bridge next to a lake. The stopped convoy was lovely too. Hard to say how many such small events are in there all over the place. Plenty of larger regions I've basically never been in one and half play-troughs. Maybe also something to take away for another time: to make sure there are enough obligatory missions that cover all "regions" at least once. Well, maybe not. We already had the comparison to GTA, and there I always liked the world progression, with a tiny world that slowly opened up to you and became bigger and bigger, until the full map was unlocked.

 

Btw. should a service car/van be able to repair itself? E.g. a front window with some "speed holes"? Do you guys always steal two of them? Just in case?

 

3 hours ago, Variable said:

The diving mission ("recover intel") is bugged.

 

Sucks. This one each time worked well for me. But I also ran into the bug where you can't upload the virus for some reason (thanksfuly reverting a bit and trying again worked). But yes, some of this stuff is very buggy and tends to fall apart. The Syndikat "distraction" calls stopped working for me at some point all together. I got angry with them, so I called again to talk with the boss. He just sent beeper message as always. Rude. So I tried to click a location on the map, and I couldn't accept: no man available. Checked the logs. 0/10 available. Probably all dead because there was some stupid Syndikat gig every half hour. Good job Samjo.

Well, screw them anyways, especially in the end. See who laughs last. Shortly after that, my "smart phone" interface on the map also fell apart for some reason. I think that Miller jackass uploaded Virus to it, as a joke. Again, see who laughs last. Right, Miller?

 

Spoiler

I went with Miller anyways. Good ol' chap. Giving the antidote to Syndikat is out of the question since they stopped calling me or calling me back. Also the stupid boss would just swallow it for himself and then that's that. No. But giving it to the doctor, who I don't even like very much, is equally stupid. What's he gonna do? Give it to his five hobos? Good job. You see? Miller is the best. Miller has a personal analyst, a sexy secretary, and a fucking sub! And they're doing their best to synthesize more of it. Miller. What a lad.

 

But the last bit had me hell of confused. Where is the secret antidote? I never found it. So I said screw it, I just head over to Miller and murder him if necessary. But Miller was all like, hey you made it and you've got the antidote too! Miller. What a bro. Turns out some "regular medicine pills/package" I snatched, probably, were the antidote all along? Maybe? I look all over that research dome. So many objects with inventories. All empty. So confused.

So I checked the buildings nearby. One was very suspicious. I had a decorated room, visible from outside. Murdered another jerk in the corridor. Then there was a huge generators. Cables going upstairs. Neato. That lead me straight into an office. The officer was already murdered. Checked his stuff. Found yet(!) another, brand new key card. No duplicate. A fresh one. What do. Tried to check the computer, but it didn't work. So that had me confused too. What now? Nothing? Also where is the antidote? Ahhh. I should not have shot at the computer with my tank. Was that the problem? Or, ahh, wait. Was this just some kind of last chance room to upload the virus if not done so already? That's it, isn't it. Well, now I feel stupid. But only a little.

 

I also would wish that "taking a side" wouldn't just lead to a slightly different tale. It's kind of a tease. Here's what should have happened: force the player to make a decision half-way through, maybe a bit earlier even. Team Miller will offer NATO gear and fun in the sun. CTGR flavored extra dirty missions. Syndikat doesn't like you any longer. So better not show up. Doc/Civilians don't care. Or, you go with Syndikat to be real guerillo hero. Miller doesn't like that. No NATO toys for you. He might also wanna murder you next time he's around. Who knows. Also you get guerilla flavored missions with good old russian toys from last word war. Many fun. Not sure if a Doc/civilian route makes sense, why not. Maybe even go and join the IDAP, go out on medical emergency adventures and save many lives. Maybe not. The point is to make "taking a side" count for something. Don't just tease with it. And then let events unfold accordingly. Sure, sure, out of scope for Old man. And that's fine. But maybe for another time?

Anyways, ideas are cheap. And it's always good if something leaves you wanting for more, isn't it.

 

[Shift 10]

5 minutes ago, rübe said:

And not something that is so easily tricked like the jets that show up sometimes.

 

For me the Xian stopped showing up after i raided the nothern airfield on the big island, killed everyone there and left in a Xian, and a Neophron stopped showing up after i killed everything in an airfield on the north-east island and stole a Neophron from there. So now only the heli shows up for me. Gotta find where its base is i guess... Although not long before my savegame bugged i saw a heli far away in the sky frozen in one position with noticeable pitch and roll angles (so not hovering) and rotor not moving, and after that it stopped showing up too, but then my savegame bugged so couldnt really enjoy lack of enemy air support for long.

[Ex3B 268]

7 hours ago, rübe said:

ohhh. And I thought any of the armed vehicles (e.g. MSE-3 Marid, or a BTR-K) was already as OP as it gets. Not sure if that's a good thing, or some really heavy response forces should show up and rape your ass as soon as you operate such heavier equipment? Basically making it a pointless suicide mission. And not something that is so easily tricked like the jets that show up sometimes.

There's only 1 neophron, if you kill it, it won't show up any more. I killed it with a Tigris.

After that they send in a Xian. Kill that and it won't show up anymore

After that, its just Kajmans.

 

Even so, I just use the Orca (its armed in the Orca/killer whale black and white camo) to go from point A to point B, it doesn't attract more attention when flying around than a Xian does.

I haven't tried yet, but the Orca should be able to sling load picksup and SUVs, and take them back home.

[John Madoxx 0]

Hi, I need to know how to create a marker as the markers from old man, in 3D with text below and an image, is there a script or someting to do that?

Thanks for answering this.