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23 minutes ago, neofit said:

But Pilgrimage for instance and tons of other missions are working with the BIS save system with no problem, organically.

Ya, their are mp missions out there too with save systems as well they may use a save system called iniDBI2

seen here https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/186131-inidbi2-save-and-load-data-to-the-server-or-your-local-computer-without-databases/

would be something i need to learn, and setup for the mission, i will look into this, and when i get it figured out i'll create a new version of the mission with this system.

          Its an interesting point tho having the save system would definatley change how you play the mission, thanks for the feedback!

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I never understood what feature in a scenario made it so the stock BIS save system wouldn't work so people would have to either resort to base respawn or write their own saving routines. never did much research on the subject due to laziness, to be honest :). By digging around in other people's missions, I figured that some just disable saving because reasons. Others, like BIS, are using their Apex campaign to test their new "single-player online" feature on paying customers. I've seen plenty of missions where you have to go back to your base then use the map to save, but I don't enjoy that kind of pressure, especially in a game where you are more likely than not to get one-shot by a couple of pixels behind some bushes, multiple times during a mission.

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3 hours ago, neofit said:

I never understood what feature in a scenario made it so the stock BIS save system wouldn't work so people would have to either resort to base respawn or write their own saving routines.

 Only things i could think of would be a mod conflicting with the save, or even scripts, for example in the sp scenarios in the game, theres a mission

if you play it with certain gameplay mods, and save, the save gets corrupted, it will save yes but reloading the save will basically make the mission not work,

but i think thats a progressive type save when you get to a certain point like walk into a trigger based on the objective and you get an automatic save

saving manually would do the same.

 

Other then that i've seen saving coded into a mission, and a persistent type save with Ravage mod that works for mp only if you play lan and by yourself, it would

save your exact position, and gear which is ideal, thats what the iniDBI2 does.

3 hours ago, neofit said:

especially in a game where you are more likely than not to get one-shot by a couple of pixels behind some bushes

Ya would be just as dangerous, you got as far as you got and decided to save before its to late then have to go back to base to save, at that rate

might as well just have died and started over, respawn or teamswitch, ya i hear you on the issue, i will definitely look into this.

       i never considered something like saving your progress at the point where you are at in the mission, however what concerns me is

considering that the mission uses a garrison script to place enemies in random positions in houses, balconies and roofs, im wondering if the save with iniDBI2 when i figure out how to use it,

if the AI would be saved where they were at based on where you saved, an interesting thought indeed.

   I'll look into it more and let you know how it goes.

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@neofit What you can do if you want to try this mission, download the pbo version of the mission

Google Drive v1.10

Armaholic v1.10 

 

Then take the pbo, you'll need to extract the it from the zip of course, and then move the pbo to your folder here:

C:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Arma 3\Missions

Just make sure you have the required mods loaded, now once ingame and on the main menu, go to ----> Options ---> Game ----> Difficulty ----> Multiple saves (bottom of list)

with this box checked you can save your mission as much as you want, idk why i didn't think of it before but play the mission that way it works,

no need for extra scripts, or databases for me to implement, just save it on your end, once you save you can reload it, and if you exit the mission, you can return to where you left off.

  

Now if you were to die, up to you, either teamswtich to return to base, or reload your previous save so you have the option.

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Update

Missions updated

  • The ISIL Foothold v1.11
  • The ISIL Foothold v1.7  Respawn version
  • The ISIL Foothold v1.7  No mods or DLC version
  • The ISIL Foothold v1.5  ACE version

Changelog:

September 21st, 2019

v1.11

  • Updated HAS module allowing the helis to respawn if they were destroyed.
  • Added a code to the recruit AI script allowing the AI to work with HAS.
  • Moved the medic at base out of the Medical Cargo house and to the front of it.
  • Reworded the map marker for the Fuel tank & trucks objective.
  • Replaced the Qalat tower with a 2 story house.
  • Found and removed 2 objects buried inside a house in compound 1.
  • Added 4 new MG nest Perimeter objectives which are optional.
  • Updated the Launcher objective ammo box adding missing launchers for the ammo in the box.

Other notes/Updates

  • The no mods or DLC version doesn't have HAS in it so no updates there for the mod.
  • 1st post of the thread, i added new screenshots, made screenshots bigger, and put them all into a spoiler.
  • 1st post of thread added thumbnails for each mission version, and put all downloads into a spoiler.

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As per my previous post here for all of you interested in the mission but prefer Singleplayer

  • You can host the mission in MP lan and play solo, for respawn this would be needed anyways.

    2 options

For a normal Singleplayer game with this you have 2 options, you can either teamswitch to the next available playable unit

which theres only 4 or if you download the mission from the google drive and move the pbo to your missions folder ---> C:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Arma 3\Missions

Saving in the mission

Once ingame be sure to go to ----> Options ---> Game ----> Difficulty ----> Multiple saves (bottom of list) on the menu of the game

and you can save your progress as you play, regardless the mission is still challenging.

 

Credits

    I want to thank Rydydgier for his help and insights once again on things i was having issues with namely with HAS for this update.

I also want to thank Neofit in the previous post for bringing the saving option to my attention, tbh for a veteran player i never really used it as i've always used teamswitch

but aside that for his and others sake like i noted above you can save your progress as you go.

   Cheers!

 

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Update

Changelog:

September 23rd, 2019

v1.12

  • Adjusted positions of all MG nest perimeter guns as they were falling over and completing their tasks.
  • Removed a couple of objects found inside the house on the East Mg Perimeter.

 

All versions updated:

  • Ace v1.6
  • Respawn v1.8
  • No mods/DLC v1.8
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Update - Some points on mission design and Tips & Advice

Recently received a comment on the No mods and DLC version on the steam workshop page.

The commenter

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The machine gun nets are destroying all the helicopters at the very beginning. The enemy offroad is driving up to the base and destroying cars... needs to be fixed

You can read my response here if you want

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/comments/1733288691

 

But i want to go into this a little deeper and explain something about the design of the mission and then give some advice.

 

Not meant for beginners

This mission was designed for the intermediate, advanced and veteran players of the game, this is not a beginner's mission, not that one couldn't play it, but experience in arma is whole nother ballgame

then playing any other game in my opinion, and thats not to say that a veteran of a war who is a beginner to the game couldn't get far in the mission, it depends on alot of factors.

Overall it depends on the person, and experience does make a difference, just stating that the mission is not easy, it has a high challenge.

 

Design is for spec ops & Snipers

The layout, and design of the mission is meant for those players that prefer, like and or specialize in Special Operations, and Sniping type missions basically the context of the mission dictates one's approach,

so going in with a machine gun and a rocket launcher is wasted firepower because only so much of that would work.

  The environment and layout of the enemy is described as hidden, ambushing, watchful, and having established killzones, so basically an approach to this would require the player to recon

the area, setup an approach where one could infiltrate, while a sniper is watching, engage and eliminate any perimeter defenses, and any soldiers watching or established on rooftops,

along with guard posts, and or outposts.

 

Perimeter Defenses by design setup based on location and map layout

The layout of the MG nest perimeters is situated on top of hills that overlook a vast space of empty field, that is lower then them, these nests are situated about 400m apart

that was by design to have them spaced, and overlooking the field, now considering that their positions are higher then the field they overlook which is reminiscent of a DDay layout

on Omaha for example, these nests have a ideal killzone, not only do they have a long field of fire but there is really nothing other then maybe a couple of small hills

and some large stones to take cover behind.

 

SW Commenter and the helis

   Now as the commenter on the steam workshop was saying, my guess is that he had flown into the killzone area of the mg nests and got shot down,

that is the only possible reason that the helis could be getting destroyed as the mg nests cant see but maybe 400-600m from their positions, and the base itself is about

1600m minimum to a max of 2200m from the furthest nest.

 

Antiair truck

        On a note to that there is an antiair truck that randomly positioned in one of the compounds, and is set to move to a random position on the start of the mission

this very reason is why i state that you need to do reconnaissance first before you make your move.

 

Truck with 50.cal mg

This truck is situated at the start of the mission on the road behind compound 3, it has a waypoint that is set to guard, now anyone that knows anything about editing in the game

knows that a guard waypoint will allow a unit to seek out a source of sound that sounds like combat of some sort, i know from experience by sight too, that if that truck sees the helis flying they

will engage them but not only that but if the heli's fly back to base as in RTB, the truck will literally seek out that position or location and engage the helis or anything it sees as enemy.

 

This truck will seek out the source, like i did yesterday, i play tested the mission to maybe see if what the commenter was suggesting was happening, and i know it happens

thats the thing its meant to be like that, dont fly into the killzone, makes no sense anyways because that whole area is occupied by enemy flying in there would be stupid, only to get closer to the AO?

 

When i tested it yesterday i went in on a quad, i drove into the killzone, was a sniper, i hid behind a hill with view of the compounds, as soon as i took out the soldiers on the roof tops in compound 5

and the mg nest there too, the truck with the 50cal came out to the area i was at, looking around, i ended up shooting the gunner out first and then the driver, he was no threat.

While still there i killed all the mg nests and all the soldiers i had seen on top of roofs i could see from my position, just from that, i noticed that the infantry patrols

were working their way to investigate my area as well.

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My advice

  1. Move in on foot/quad initially and recon the area, no matter which direction you go.
  2. Eliminate the perimeter defenses right away, since the truck w/mg is an objective, wait til he comes to you unless you see him first.
  3. Locate the antiair truck and eliminate him right away if you can or see him, without doing this, your helis even for cas are no match against them
  4. If you see any patrols eliminate them right away, but only if they are within range and are an immediate threat to where your going or planning to do.
  5. Plan your approach, any direction is viable and will work, best approach imo are either the east, or the NE, going through the middle from the north is risky as you have nests, truck, and compounds on both sides.
  6. Spec ops, Sniping and go silenced imo is your best option, long range threats like i noted in the Tactical tips can be eliminated without actually being a threat to you as in they seeing you.
  7. Going in loud is not really a problem but just keep in mind that sound draws the enemy's attention, when your in a compound, they enemy may change their direction, so more eyes on you if your seen.
  8. Use a few grenades, but stock up on RGN grenades, they are small grenades, perfect for CQB, use them based on the space the enemy is in, they can clear a small room and be thrown alot farther.
  9. Your loudout should enable you to maintain your stamina if you have to move quick, so take what is only needed, remember you can pick up enemy weapons, and grenades too if you have to.
  10. Use your supports -  you have mortar, and cas on call waiting, they are limited so use them for the best situation, mortars can do alot of damage, call in the cas heli when all anti air threats are gone, he will do alot of damage!
  11. Most of all when looking at compounds from the outside, look at all the windows, doors, and openings, you can eliminate alot of threats from outside if you see them, at most your up against 10 soldiers a compound.
  12. Lastly take your time, prioritize your targets, look first before you move, keep the sound down, and recon, patience and awareness will keep you alive!

 

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UPDATE

Respawn version update only.

 

Changelog:

v1.9                                                                                                   
===                                                                                                  
 - Removed helicopter supply drop and transport as the helicopters were exploding apon entering them,
 only Heli CAS support is available.       Only Heli CAS is available.

                                                                 

- Some misc base adjustments.

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UPDATE

Small update that updates and fixes an issue where the parameter for the weather in the lobby for mp on a server not mp lan

would cause the server to hang and not load the mission, parameter was changed, thanks to my friend hortzy for taking a look and giving me some insights on it.

Mission should now work on a server dedicated or GSP.

 

Changelog

March 25, 2020

v1.13

- Updated and fixed the weather Parameters as they would prevent the mission
from running on a dedicated or a GSP server, only MP lan seemed to work
now mission should work on all servers!

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UPDATE

All four versions were updated!

  • Original - v1.14
  • ACE - v1.8
  • Respawn - v1.11
  • No mods - v1.10

Changelog

March 27th, 2020

v1.14
- Updated the briefing.
- Added static 50cal to the bunker of the front of the base.
- Added 2 more playable units for a total of 6.
- Changed CQB Operators to Operators.
- Adjusted various walls for level and position at the base.
- Added misc items in various areas for ambiance.

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Update

All four versions were updated!

  • Original - v1.15
  • ACE - v1.9
  • Respawn - v1.12
  • No mods - v1.11

Changelog

April 7th,2020

v1.15

- Updated briefing.


- Removed all weapons and gear on player and playable units because player will
get weapons and gear from virtual arsenal anyways, plus adds a little immersion
by starting with nothing.

- Replaced the vanilla revive with A3 Wounding System - AIS Revive script,
with this you can stabilize and give first aid to a fallen players, and
friendly AI will also do the same for you.

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UPDATE

Changelog

August 10th, 2020

v1.16

  • Removed AIS Revive system as it was preventing the player from interacting with anything after teamswitch when playing solo.
  • Added couple walls at the base.
  • Added ammo for a couple launchers at the Outpost objective as the launchers didn't have any.
  • Added a few benches in some areas.

All 4 versions Updated:

  • Original mission - (this version i had connected HAS mod to all playable units, as originally only player had ability to call for airsupport. All other versions already had this.)
  • ACE version
  • Respawn version
  • No mods version

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Update

The ISIL Foothold no mods DLC version

was updated to v1.13

 

Steam workshop, and zip download (google drive)

have been updated on the OP as well:

 

Download

Steam Workshop

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1733288691

Zip - Google Drive

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A0JwU8URRgr6V40pNq1aFb0Yn58IXtBX/view?usp=sharing

 

Changelog

v1.13
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  • All enemy FIA soldier now wear desert themed uniform, helmet/hat, face wear, vest, backpack, and in some instances weapons.
  • Some enemy soldiers now use different weapons based on their role, as an example FIA snipers now use the MK18 ABR sniper rifles.
  • Various sandbag walls were adjusted on some of the buildings that had them, as they were floating in some spots.
  • A few enemy soldiers had their gear adjusted for better sake of variety in look.
  • Added some new houses to compounds 3 and 4.
  • Added a gate to compound 4.
  • Adjusted the waypoint of the reinforcements, as sometimes one of the vehicles would get stuck on a building enroute.
  • Swapped the Mora for a Pickup truck with hmg for the reinforcements.
  • Updated briefing.

Video playthrough of this version

Note - Only the change to the enemy FIA soldiers, gear, weapons ect,. were changed prior to the

video being recorded, the remaining of the changelog was completed after the video upload

so you wont see anything different in the video other then enemy clothes, gear ect,.

 

Screenshots for this update

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Ps. Took me longer to record, and edit the video then the actual update, 😄

recorded monday morning, spent tues through sat here editing, upload, process, tags, ect,.

a long video, and gameplay but it was alot of fun, cheers!

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