Wonder 0 Posted January 15, 2003 Good work! We now have a Hawkeye, a beta Hornet and an Intruder and a Tomcat on the way. We've almost got a full carrier wing! Now all we need is the carrier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanuckle_00 0 Posted January 15, 2003 Okay guys I understood from the first correction about it only being used by the navy but if you want to waste your time explaining it to me again go ahead. By the way, creator of the new F14; were you able to get the flaps moving along with the wings swinging too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonder 0 Posted January 15, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hudson @ Jan. 15 2003,03:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I sure would like an update on this addon, I guess the maker is too busy trashing everyone elses work (Mr.Dynamo)... Here is dynamo trash talking the A6 Intruder ...And trash talking Col. Klinks Harrier... ...And trash talking alot of people including myself.... Now I just want to know dynamo, when is your addon going to be finished or for that matter even make it out of 3ds max and into O2? From the way you talk in the last post you obvoiusly havnt open o2 before....Need help setting it up? Just give us an update plz...<span id='postcolor'> It looks like Dynamo doesn't know what he's talking about, when critisizing the Falklands mod's Harrier model. He posted pictures of AV-8B Harrier, which is completely different from the Sea Harriers used in the Falklands. These harriers DO have 2 hardpoints on each wing and shorter wings. However I DO agree with him that there are addons out there with obvious modelling flaws that are left uncorrected. Anyway this model looks like it's top-notch quality. It goes in the same category as Deadsoldier's F-15E, G8's Tornado, Kegetys' Hawk and DKM's Bronco. I extend my deepest gratitude to the modellers of these aircrafts! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted January 15, 2003 this Dynamo guy has to learn english and to stop d/ling free 3d models off the net Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonder 0 Posted January 15, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Jan. 15 2003,21:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">this Dynamo guy has to learn english and to stop d/ling free 3d models off the net<span id='postcolor'> IMHO it's okay to use finished 3d-models as a base for some addon. It's better than making a crappy one from scratch. And what goes to Dynamo's english, I had no trouble understanding what he said. Did you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koolkid101 0 Posted January 15, 2003 question how come the united states would sell f-14's to iraqi their in the axis of exil? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stag 0 Posted January 15, 2003 They didn't. they sold some to Iran while it was still under the Shah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hudson 0 Posted January 15, 2003 Wonder, dig deeper in those forums. It real funny how all those fraggies trash talk everyone, they think they are gods at everything . They feel they can do this because posting rights to those forums are handed out by admins, the trashtalk-ie never gets a chance to defend themselves (and if they do posts are edited). Thus they get big egos in there and forget that one day someone will notice  I really like how Dynamo trash talks the addon community though and thinks hes such hot stuff, funny reading. Nice model but a waste of time cause we all know that it wont make it into O2 like that more funny stuff... From dynamo, AV8 thread... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey im new to modeling my self.. but at lest i have an idea of what im making.. knolage is every thing....<span id='postcolor'> ...Yes your very right there Dynamo, "knolage" is also good when trying to insult people correctly.... From dynamo A6 Intruder thread... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">arrg.. im starting to get sick of thies bad models... to me it seems that this modeler is making the A6 from memory.. its ... reayl sad.. hey if it get any worse im going to have to open up a web page with info on millitary crap with every thing form paint sceams to cutaway drawings.. DO UR HOME WORK PEOPEL!<span id='postcolor'> we "PEOPEL" will try to do our "HOME WORK", please if you could pull your english book out from under your bed you might be able to insult "PEOPEL" with somewhat better english. from dynamo, F18 Thread... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">....if anything this F18 is a bad example of yet another poorly made addon... its realy sad how thies model makers make souch inaccurat models the not only look wrong but also fly wrong..<span id='postcolor'> ....same thread and post... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i even too a look at the harrier.. and that one is just plane pathetic,... let thoes who know what they r doing make the models!.. OFP is bassed around realistic models and in how the move and act.. <span id='postcolor'> Here is where we know for a fact that dynamo is full of it. We can clearly see from this statement that he dosent know squat about the OFP game engine. Dynamo, we are not playing microsoft flight sim 2002 here, plz give us a break. ....same thread.... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">.. i feel like smacking all thoes model makers and setting them strait.. i also know that some of thies "crappy" models were ripped off the net.. if ur going to do that then fine.. at least have the common sence to get a realy well made model<span id='postcolor'> I wont comment on this one, ill just let you laugh from freakybird, same thread.... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yea, I made a little thread on that harrier, and I do agree that it sucks a$$. I expect quality models, and if they cant produce it, they have no business making them.<span id='postcolor'> Then why do you make a thread about every addon thats released? more funny stuff. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> from freakybird, same thread... All these morons in the OFP community don't give a shit about model quality. Everyone seems so excited that its a harrier, but you have to realize that part of it has to be accuracy of the model, accurate as hell, and these guys don't understand it. Its obvious they haven't spent a lot of time on it. Disgusting, thats all I can say. Also Dynamo, go suggest to the creators about the F-18. Give them your input, what you think about it. This is only the beta, so we will see what they do with it when the full version is released.<span id='postcolor'> Well freakybird, why cant you tell me these things? your obviuosly an expert on everything. If your to embaressed to reply here Im on ICQ/MSN/AOL/Yahoo almost all day long. email at hudson@radishville.com Ill be glad to discuss any suggestions you may have seeing as how you are better than the entire OFP community. More from our friend dynamo, same thread... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yes i will go bitch at them... i can understand the textures.. but what about the scale.. have u seen it?.. ITS FRIGGIN HUGE!.. the pilot looks like a migit!.. *points at sniper!* ^_^!jk sniper! hehe<span id='postcolor'> Dynamo Im still waiting. About the scale, Hmm the boeing intranet data must be wrong. Ill change it to what ever you suggest Dynamos genius at work, same thread. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if any thing.. the model must be correct befor texturing is even considered! oh and the only thing that realy is interesting about the F18 is the fact that they have gear doors that close!.. i was told that it cant be done in OFP<span id='postcolor'> How can you get all worked up about all these addons when you dont even understand addons, or OFP for that matter? Funny fraggies... more dynamo, same thread... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">im also told that i cant make spoilerons.. well i'll see.. i'll bet there is even a way to get the speed breaks to work.. after all its all done in the scripts.. example!.. for alerons.. u give them a value of how far they can move up and down.. for spoilerons(F14 and some other aircraft)just make it as if they r alerons.. and in the scripts u can assign the value of how far up and down it moves.. like make it so that when u pull the flight stick right the right spoilerons move up but the left side doesnt move because the value is set to 0 down.. now .. thats what im thinking of what can be done.<span id='postcolor'> LOL I wish I could be there when you try to do that. Dynamo your humble pie is coming, o2 flavored,  bitter stuff so get ready. Now I could go on and on with all the other stuff in their forums there at frag haus but I think my point has been made. These guys have been talking some serious crap and they know nothing about what they are talking about. I wonder if the other brainless monkeys there actually believe all that crap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonder 0 Posted January 15, 2003 I don't use no double negatives, and i persenaly think peeple shoud lern to speek englesh perfektly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hudson 0 Posted January 15, 2003 scuse mi fer bein a rednek! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pzvg 0 Posted January 15, 2003 Wonder, I think the point being made isn't about English skills. Do I Build on other folks models? Yes, and they get FULL CREDIT, Do I trash honest effort? NO, someone took the time to DO SOMETHING, which required a lot more from them than making snide comments in a forum. I think the saying goes, "Ya can talk the talk, but can ya walk the walk?" Don't defend them, I've seen their comments on other subjects as well, Can you say l33t b0b? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koolkid101 0 Posted January 15, 2003 Man i hope their f-14's explode! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stag 0 Posted January 15, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (pzvg @ Jan. 15 2003,02:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can you say l33t b0b?<span id='postcolor'> Well, now you mention it, no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stag 0 Posted January 15, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Koolkid101 @ Jan. 15 2003,02:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Man i hope their f-14's explode!<span id='postcolor'> Unlikely. Probably all in the boneyard by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frisbee 0 Posted January 15, 2003 One whipping around with specs he got from fas or another site.... And another who can't tell the difference between an AV8 Harrier II and a Sea Harrier Grs Mk.I. (correct me if I'm wrong,too lazy to look it up ) And they're flinging mud at three planes who look great. An addon maker who doesn't respect his fellow addon makers hard work shouldn't count on getting any him/herself. *snicker* Don't get me started on the language either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NavyEEL 0 Posted January 15, 2003 trying to lend constructive criticism, Hudson, or simply trying to bash FragHaus in hopes of furthering Radishville's popularity? you disagree with dynamo's attitude--i respect that, and i actually agree with it. i LOVE all the addons being released in the OFP community and, while there may be some nitpicky imperfections in some of the addons, i'm willing to live with them because, like you said, this is ofp, not FS2002. i find his comments very rude and immature, but i don't label these as the official views of FragHaus, HitSqd, 5thSFG, or any other group affiliated with FragHaus. sure you can find possibly offensive material on the FragHaus forums--but then again, can you name a forum that DOESN'T have offensive material in some way shape or form? dynamo wants to make his own F-14--that's great and i look forward to it. he wants to bash other addon makers--that's bad and i disagree with it, but i know that his opinion does not represent the rest of us at FragHaus, nor does it represent anyone but himself. i personally wish ALL addon makers the best of luck and thank ALL of you for what you're giving to the OFP community. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hudson 0 Posted January 16, 2003 This has nothing to do with MP server popularity. It has to do with Dynamo thinking he is so much better than the entire OFP community and talking trash about them. Sorry, I have alot of respect for the guys that make addons and when its brought to my attention that things are being said by people like dynamo and freakybird I do get real emotional. Dynamo and freakybird havent the slightest clue what is involved in making an addon yet they want say everyone that makes them suck? Whats with that? Yes I feel like bashing but unfortunatly your admins over there at frag wont authorize my posting rights. Hmm wonder why, we scared that people might stick up for themselves? And please let Dynamo and freakybird know about this thread. We want an update, or is this F14 allready dead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanuckle_00 0 Posted January 16, 2003 Hudson if I ever form a clan you're welcome to join it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NavyEEL 0 Posted January 16, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hudson @ Jan. 16 2003,01:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And please let Dynamo and freakybird know about this thread. We want an update, or is this F14 allready dead?<span id='postcolor'> rgr i will inform them. and i'm not personally working on the F-14, so i don't know it's status. the only information i have on the F-14 is the same information posted here on the BIS forums and the information on the FragHaus forums, which you linked to earlier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hudson 0 Posted January 16, 2003 After an hour long discussion with dynamo on ICQ, I am sad to say that he still thinks the OFP addon community is a joke. He wont be commenting here on the remarks he made in the fraghaus forums. I am sure you clearly understand why not. If you would like to keep up with this F14 addon you will have to watch the many threads at the frag haus forums for any update info. You might have to look at every thread that has anything to do with an addon though. The only updates he makes are when he flashes one of his 3 rendered pics of the F14 and starts trash talking someone elses hard work.... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> [23:57] Hit_Sqd_Dynamo: i dont treat others like crap.. i just tell them what i think about their addons and how they should research what they r making befor they make some thing that looks like that harraier....... [001] Hit_Sqd_Dynamo: listen this is ridiculous... Â all i was trying to say is that you guys could have put a little more effort in the research you did on your models....if you can't handle constructive crticisms about things you post in public places such as forums than do yourself and everyone else a favour and just don't do it anymore...otherwise you should have a bunch of table salt near you always just incase you have pple tell you what they think...<span id='postcolor'> O by the way, in our ICQ conversation he kept referring to this trash talking as "constructive criticisms". And he thinks this "constructive criticisms" is best spoken behind the backs of those he sets out to help. So if your planning on making an addon in the future make sure you stop by frag haus so dynamo can give you his 14 year old expert advice on what he can read off some webpage. He is a endless fountain of knowledge on every aircaft ever produced. I personaly find it very sad that anyone could go and say, or even think such things about anyone that puts their time and effort into making an addon for the communitys benefit. Where exactly would we be without these guys? Stuck playing OFP with the same old toys. The addon makers deserve a little respect dynamo, not alot of your "constructive crticisms". I personally will have nothing to do with helping you one bit if you come here asking for help someday. And from the looks of things your gonna need alot of help. Â I wouldnt blame anyone else for feeling the same way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miles teg 1 Posted January 16, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Koolkid101 @ Jan. 15 2003,22:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">question how come the united states would sell f-14's to iraqi their in the axis of exil?<span id='postcolor'> As Wardog stated, we sold the F14's to Iran under the Shah back in the 70's when they (or their government at least) were our friend. That was before they had their Islamic revolution in which the Ayatollah Komenei (sp?) came to power in part due to the backlash against the tyranny that the Shah used to maintain his power (although the Shah did some good things also for Iran). Â However we did supply military intelligence to Iraq, and more damning, equipment and materials to manufacture chemical and biological weapons and never criticized them for using these weapons against Iran (we only said anything when he started gassing his own people). Â But it's kinda the same way how we supplied tons of training and weapons to the Majahadin in Afghanistan during their war with the Soviets. Â Amazing (or not so amazing) how those things come to bite us in the ass now. Â Anyhoo... Â as far as the whole dynamo bit ya'all are talking about, I don't know anything about that... Â I just hope someone releases an updated F14. Â Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted January 16, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wonder @ Jan. 15 2003,22:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">6--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Jan. 15 2003,216)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">this Dynamo guy has to learn english and to stop d/ling free 3d models off the net<span id='postcolor'> IMHO it's okay to use finished 3d-models as a base for some addon. It's better than making a crappy one from scratch. And what goes to Dynamo's english, I had no trouble understanding what he said. Did you?<span id='postcolor'> experienced some difficulties with reading that dynamo guy , english is not my mother language and i don't understand too well phonetic or reversed writing and ..... it's ok to use finished 3d models as long as you don't take credit of them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~Too Tall~ 0 Posted January 16, 2003 i agree. .using unfinsihed models is ok as long as u give credit where credit is due. . and it is form my veiw that hudson is the ONLY addon maker to admit "this is not my model". but he has put alot of work into it and has done a great job on it. . .and continues to make it better and better. but i honestly dont belive for oe minutes that half these addons are crated form scratch. .i know the F15E was becuz i wasthed them make that step by step. but 75% of these addons out there are "someone elses work". . . and it needs to stop. . .not stop using ther ppls work. .thats ok. .but give the credit where credit is due. . or else. .go to hell thats my opinon and im stickin to it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted January 17, 2003 Hudson, if you have some problem with Dynamo's attitude, talk to him privately. this thread is about his model, not about him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hudson 0 Posted January 17, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Jan. 16 2003,22:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hudson, if you have some problem with Dynamo's attitude, talk to him privately. this thread is about his model, not about him.<span id='postcolor'> I did mention an hour long ICQ conversation in my last post. And I am discussing his model, pointing out where people should look if they want update info, along with his attitude. Sorry if I came off like I was just bashing his character. Just alot of stuff that I thought should be pointed out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
