The Iraq Thread

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harnu @ Dec. 17 2002,01:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hehe, I try.  

     And no one answered me through 6 pages.  What were the ICC and Kyoto agreements?  Haven't lerned about those yet.<span id='postcolor'>

ICC - International Crime Court. An international war tribunal to prosecute war criminals.

Kyoto agreement - Agreement to reduce CO2 emissions.

Clinton signed both, Bush withdrew the signature.

[Harnu 0]

I see that. And again, what were the ICC and Kyoto Agreements?

[Balschoiw 0]

read here:

http://unfccc.int/resource/convkp.html#kp

or here:

http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/convkp/kpeng.html

to find out more on the Kyoto protocols.

And this link will lead you to a short introduction of what the ICC is about.

http://www.rte.ie/news/features/referenda/court/margaretward1.html

[Harnu 0]

Ah, thx denior. You posted as I was typing my reply

[FSPilot 0]

Is this the same ICC that attempted to convict, and I think did convict, George Bush Sr. for the gulf war?

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Dec. 17 2002,02:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is this the same ICC that attempted to convict, and I think did convict, George Bush Sr. for the gulf war?<span id='postcolor'>

Source, please.

To my knowledge, noone has convicted anyone because of the Gulf War, as that was a proper UN jobbie.

[FSPilot 0]

If you ask me that's pretty messed up.  These guys are trying to pass of some of Iraq's terms off surrender as war crimes.

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[Ex-RoNiN 0]

We already had the discussion about the Highway of Death

And the International War Crimes court is different to the ICC. Milosevic is at the IWC, but not at the ICC. Different courts for different cases.

EDIT: Removed your link because of inappropriate pictures. I didn't really want to see that

[Frisbee 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Dec. 17 2002,02:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you ask me that's pretty messed up.  These guys are trying to pass of some of Iraq's terms off surrender as war crimes.

link removed<span id='postcolor'>

And so the circle completes.

[FSPilot 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">EDIT: Removed your link because of inappropriate pictures. I didn't really want to see that <span id='postcolor'>

You have my apologies. But I thought it was OK, seeing as how it was posted before in this thread.

[Tales_From_Topographic_Oceans 0]

Harnu: do a quick internet search on the name to find out the deep dark secret. It's actually one of the best rock albums.

I am rippin' roarin and ready to go! While we are on the environmental subject (Kyoto--sounds like some Japanese rice dish), I have a bumper sticker on my car that reads: "pollution is the solution." Let's timber the rain forest to harvest its abundant natural resources. Let big business and industry discharge nitrogen in our river basins. Reminds me of a Grateful Dead song called "Smokestack lightning." Yep, let's create an impervious surface society where run-off is the result. Support nitrogen discharge.

Ok back to the topic, what the hell are we discussing? Saddam Hussain (spelling?)? Yes he needs to be horse-whipped.

[CosmicCastaway 0]

6--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tales_From_Topographic_Oceans @ Dec. 17 2002,146)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Harnu: do a quick internet search on the name to find out the deep dark secret. It's actually one of the best rock albums.

I am rippin' roarin and ready to go! While we are on the environmental subject (Kyoto--sounds like some Japanese rice dish), I have a bumper sticker on my car that reads: "pollution is the solution." Let's timber the rain forest to harvest its abundant natural resources. Let big business and industry discharge nitrogen in our river basins. Reminds me of a Grateful Dead song called "Smokestack lightning." Yep, let's create an impervious surface society where run-off is the result. Support nitrogen discharge.

Ok back to the topic, what the hell are we discussing? Saddam Hussain (spelling?)? Yes he needs to be horse-whipped.<span id='postcolor'>

Choke on this California An interesting article for the environmental side of things for all the Americans out there.

EDIT: That link is 'off-topic' but interesting to read non-the-less.

[Balschoiw 0]

Good to see that even some american citizens are not on bush´s truck to pollution.

But now let´s get back on topic.

[FSPilot 0]

Which topic? What is to be expected after the war on Iraq? The highway of death? Or the problems in the U.S.' international policies.

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Dec. 17 2002,11:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Which topic? What is to be expected after the war on Iraq? The highway of death? Or the problems in the U.S.' international policies.

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There is a difference between them? u.s. international policies come to play after the war on Iraq, highway of death? one possibility.

[FSPilot 0]

Yes but we're not even arguing about the international policies effects on Iraq. First we were on Afghanistan (understandibly so) but then somehow we got sidetracked to Cuba.

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Dec. 17 2002,11:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes but we're not even arguing about the international policies effects on Iraq. First we were on Afghanistan (understandibly so) but then somehow we got sidetracked to Cuba.<span id='postcolor'>

I think it was a normal flow of discussion. The problem is someone like the_guy_with_the_too_long_name who is looking to get banned and interjects completely off the wall crapola and expects understanding.

[PitViper 0]

http://www.msnbc.com/news/847605.asp

it seems the Iraqi people actually support American intervention to remove SH's cruel dictatorship.

[bn880 5]

Okay well, that seems like a claim

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> IN A REPORT released early this month, International Crisis Group, a Brussels-based think tank, found that most Iraqis<span id='postcolor'>

Where is the report named "IN A REPORT" first of all? Maybe I just can't navigate that filth(adv.) filled site.

BTW: The way the microsoft story is worded seems very bias.

[Balschoiw 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">International Crisis Group, a Brussels-based think tank,<span id='postcolor'>

Never heard of that organization. Furthermore there are no sources for the news, so I tend to doubt them. In a serious message the source would have been mentioned, or linked.

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Dec. 17 2002,12:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">International Crisis Group, a Brussels-based think tank,<span id='postcolor'>

Never heard of that organization. Furthermore there are no sources for the news, so I tend to doubt them. In a serious message the source would have been mentioned, or linked.<span id='postcolor'>

I was going to e-mail microsoft tv about that but the site is filled with so many advertizements I can't find the feedback e-mail address. Why would they say something like "A REPORT" without giving the proper name, and where is a link or something?

[Badgerboy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it seems the Iraqi people actually support American intervention to remove SH's cruel dictatorship.<span id='postcolor'>

After they got shafted by Bush Senior? I would take that with a pinch of salt, people remeber treatment like that....

[Tales_From_Topographic_Oceans 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">.......The problem is someone like the_guy_with_the_too_long_name who is looking to get banned and interjects completely off the wall ......<span id='postcolor'>

C'mon kiddies, let's not get our panties in a wad. The "problem" is that we can't have a heated discussion without being spanked. We have to tip-toe on egg shells.

Cuba? Yes, good topic. They have excellent cigars *puff* *puff* Did I say I was in the "import" "export" business? <evil grin>

Who is the bloke that thinks the Highway of Death was wrong/unjustified? Let him step forward now to face the inquisition.

[Balschoiw 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">

C'mon kiddies, let's not get our panties in a wad. The "problem" is that we can't have a heated discussion without being spanked. We have to tip-toe on egg shells.

Cuba? Yes, good topic. They have excellent cigars *puff* *puff* Did I say I was in the "import" "export" business? <evil grin>

Who is the bloke that thinks the Highway of Death was wrong/unjustified? Let him step forward now to face the inquisition. <span id='postcolor'>

What are you after ? To destroy a disussion ? Stay away if you have nothing to contribute.

People like this make me sick.

[Akira 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Dec. 17 2002,18:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BTW: The way the microsoft story is worded seems very bias.<span id='postcolor'>

I wouldn't doubt it...

What do you think the MS stands for in MSNBC?