Would you be willing to die for some other country

[PitViper 0]

Just thought the other thread needed a complement.

[brgnorway 0]

I aplied to the norwegian forces in Bosnia early on but was categorized as "not fit for duty" because of permanent hearing damage. It's ironic that my hearing was damaged while serving in the coastal artillery  

Jokes aside, no I wouldn't be willing to join UN forces now. I have a family and to many obligations to do so, such as finishing my degree at university and paying back my loans that enabled me to study.

If I had no one to think of except for myself I would have no problems risking my life while helping others. If there were a high risk of getting killed I think I would have second thoughts though.

[bn880 5]

Again, "willing to die" is the wrong question. What's the point of going to die? You are always better off not dying don't you think.

[Harnu 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 23 2002,03:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Again, "willing to die" is the wrong question.  What's the point of going to die?  You are always better off not dying don't you think.<span id='postcolor'>

All that willing to die means is are you willing to put yourself at risk to save or protect something. Of course you're better off alive, but the question remains, would you risk your life to protect.

I guess I would be willing, but it really depends on why I'd be risking my life.

[Othin 0]

Yes, because if I was ever working for the U.N. I would have to trust in either my own decision to join, or the decision of someone higher up to put me in a position where I'm under the command of the U.N.

[Guest]

Being on peace keeping missions is not just a noble cause, but it is a very interesting and valuable personal experience. When I went to Kosovo, my motivation wasn't I'm afraid at all altruistic, but very selfish: I was looking for a new experience.

There are so many weird things you encounter in a country that has been shot to hell. This for instance: We were checking out an Serbian early warning radar station that had been bombed by NATO. We didn't find anything of real interest - they had apparently managed to get the equipment out before they were bombed. We found two very interesting things: An American flag and a tourist photo of Dubrovnik (which the Serbs had bombed a couple years earlier).

Me with my loot

Edit: Oh, yeah, I forgot: we also found an old Norwegian TV there

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Nov. 23 2002,06:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Edit: Oh, yeah, I forgot: we also found an old Norwegian TV there <span id='postcolor'>

Will you stop making fun of us please

[ralphwiggum 6]

Norway can make TVs?

hey bgnorway, here's something you can use to send Denoir to prison. he looted!

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Nov. 23 2002,06:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Will you stop making fun of us please    <span id='postcolor'>

It's true it was a Tandberg!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey bgnorway, here's something you can use to send Denoir to prison. he looted! <span id='postcolor'>

Every soldier that is worth respect loots

Edit: My ultimate loot from Kosovo. I carried it in my lap on a civilian plane back

Edit2: It is a 100mm tank shell case from a T55 or early T72

The monitor in the background is 17", so you can compare the size

[ralphwiggum 6]

I'd say denoir has subconcious love of US. otherwise why would he take it? come on denoir, it's ok to admit that you secretly admire US...  

back on topic, my answer would be conditional. I'm not much of a soldier type. probably the closest i'll ever come to military would be OFP and my handgun shootings.

but if i get to work at UN or other international organization that maximizes my interest(economics) than i'd go on with them.

EDIT:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Edit: My ultimate loot from Kosovo. I carried it in my lap on a civilian plane back <span id='postcolor'>

you gotta be kidding me. so who were the airport security guards?

let me guess.. you try to impress girls with that....  

wow..your desk is actually clean today.

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Nov. 23 2002,06:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Norway can make TVs?      <span id='postcolor'>

Not anymore no. What we are good at we usualy screw up in the end.

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hey bgnorway, here's something you can use to send Denoir to prison. he looted! <span id='postcolor'>

Yeah, that would stop him from laughing I guess.

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Nov. 23 2002,06:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you gotta be kidding me. so who were the airport security guards?<span id='postcolor'>

I had diplomatic transport documents that a very good Belgian friend of mine managed to get for me. (He worked at the Belgian embassy in Zagreb at the time). The airplane crew were however moderately amused

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">let me guess.. you try to impress girls with that....  

wow..your desk is actually clean today.

<span id='postcolor'>

Actually no. I gave it to my parents. Which comes to the second thing: it's not my desk. It's my mother's desk at my parents home Unfortunately my desk is a mess. I took the picture this summer when I posted it in another thread.

I think Avon also commented on the clean desk then

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Nov. 23 2002,06:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey bgnorway, here's something you can use to send Denoir to prison. he looted! <span id='postcolor'>

Actually, he will be promoted because he stole a norwegian made TV. However being a swede he also failed to tell you the hole truth. You see there's this thing about swedes and logics - of course he had to take the old Tandberg with nice wooden cabinet. Surely such a beautyful cabinet must belong to an expensive TV? So instead of looting the spanking new Bang & Olufsen next to it he had to walk out of there with this old shite TV.

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Nov. 23 2002,07:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually, he will be promoted because he stole a norwegian made TV.<span id='postcolor'>

If I wanted to steal a TV, I would steal a good TV. Hence, I would never steal a Norwegian TV

But, let's get back on topic before I have to post restrict myself for spamming

[Col. Kurtz 0]

If I was part of a UN Peacekeeping force and was sent over to some country in Africa for example where there was a civil war asnd I was killed over there, I would think that at least I died for a somewhat noble cause (trying to stop people killing each other)

[Balschoiw 0]

If you join forces that take part in UN missions you know that there is the risk of death. So it should be part of your thinking process to deal with it before you join. I guess anyone that is with UN knows about the risks, so the topic is pretty senseless.

[Guest]

The topic is sensless for those who have made the choice already, but not to those who are considering it (or not considering it).

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harnu @ Nov. 22 2002,22:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">All that willing to die means is are you willing to put yourself at risk to save or protect something. Of course you're better off alive, but the question remains, would you risk your life to protect.<span id='postcolor'>

Then you agree with me... as that is not the question that remains since the question is "would you be willing to die", not "would you risk your life to protect."

[Renagade 0]

Why the hell would u want to ggo over and babysit some country with the risk of getting shot up in the process.

[Sam Samson 0]

simple,

1. because of your ideals: freedom, democracy, civiliation.

2. because you love the people.

3. you are a mercenary and need the money

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Nov. 23 2002,21:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Why the hell would u want to ggo over and babysit some country with the risk of getting shot up in the process.<span id='postcolor'>

It is not quite "babysitting" as you put it.

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Nov. 22 2002,07:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Nov. 23 2002,06:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Will you stop making fun of us please    <span id='postcolor'>

It's true it was a Tandberg!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey bgnorway, here's something you can use to send Denoir to prison. he looted! <span id='postcolor'>

Every soldier that is worth respect loots

Edit: My ultimate loot from Kosovo. I carried it in my lap on a civilian plane back

Edit2: It is a 100mm tank shell case from a T55 or early T72

The monitor in the background is 17", so you can compare the size <span id='postcolor'>

Man i have 5 of those things, 2 are a bit smaller but the other 3 are at least the same size. Mine are from WW2, i dunno what exactly they are from. I'm not an expert, if you want i'll post what it says on the back of the shell. Maybe someone can identify it...

My grandma kept these shells when the war was over, i dunno why, she really hated them.

[Scorpio 0]

I would actually die for America. (that AMERICA..not BUSH)

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Nov. 23 2002,22:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Man i have 5 of those things, 2 are a bit smaller but the other 3 are at least the same size.  Mine are from WW2, i dunno what exactly they are from.  .<span id='postcolor'>

I can guarantee you they are not the same size. This is 100mm caliber. They did not have those in WW2 (at least not tank shells). This one is a really big sucker. Over 1.5 m long

[ran 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Nov. 23 2002,22:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Nov. 23 2002,22:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Man i have 5 of those things, 2 are a bit smaller but the other 3 are at least the same size.  Mine are from WW2, i dunno what exactly they are from.  .<span id='postcolor'>

I can guarantee you they are not the same size. This is 100mm caliber. They did not have those in WW2 (at least not tank shells). This one is a really big sucker. Over 1.5 m long <span id='postcolor'>

some russian self propelled guns had the same caliber

the main caliber of allied self propelled artillery was 105mm , the t26 pershing used the same caliber

-edit- : not hard to miss a few milimeters only by seeing a picture