The Forgotten Battles

[Tovarish 0]

@ June 05 2003,12:38)]

@ June 05 2003,16:28)]hehe, wait until you find some yanks who know how to use it  

Problem being the majority won't. Still, more kills for us eh? Hurrah!

There'll always be a guy who actually has a clue, and that's who Oleg makes his sims for- I admire that. He doesn't tone airplanes down just because someone is getting their ass kicked. When is the P51 coming out, btw?

Maybe this month, maybe later. The patch is due out sometime this month. They're concentrating on bug fixes and completely re-doing the FM's, so we're getting "one, maybe two" planes in this patch. The next patch after this one will concentrate on all the third party aircraft that have been accepted.

*edit* considering though, that the P-51 has been Oleg's personal pet project, my money is on it being the mystery plane in the patch.

[Badgerboy 0]

@ June 05 2003,12:38)]

@ June 05 2003,16:28)]hehe, wait until you find some yanks who know how to use it  

Problem being the majority won't. Still, more kills for us eh? Hurrah!

There'll always be a guy who actually has a clue, and that's who Oleg makes his sims for- I admire that. He doesn't tone airplanes down just because someone is getting their ass kicked. When is the P51 coming out, btw?

Maybe this month, maybe later. The patch is due out sometime this month. They're concentrating on bug fixes and completely re-doing the FM's, so we're getting "one, maybe two" planes in this patch. The next patch after this one will concentrate on all the third party aircraft that have been accepted.

*edit* considering though, that the P-51 has been Oleg's personal pet project, my money is on it being the mystery plane in the patch.

Good, I can't wait to hack the bastards down in my 262. I'll send those 'Ponies' to the glue factory!

I'm still hoping for a late Mk Spitfire soon. Some of the later Mk's were fantastic aircraft.

[Tovarish 0]

I'm still hoping for a late Mk Spitfire soon. Some of the later Mk's were fantastic aircraft.

If not this sim (and I stronly suspect at some point one will be finished) definitely the next. All the smart money's on the BoB as Oleg's next theatre of operation. He has mentioned "coastal rocks", hinted that the Hurricane would play a big part in it - No Soviet planes initially, and now a Tempest cockpit is being worked on .

[Badgerboy 0]

I know there are several Spitfires being worked on for inclusion in FB. We just haven't been given a timeframe. I know they should be great quality models, as Oleg has expressed his love for the Spitfire many times.

(Best the sort out the horrible engine sounds then! I want that Merlin to roar! )

[Tex -USMC- 0]

The tough part is finding an HL server with 262s on it. I guess people don't appreciate getting nailed by planes they can't match

[Tovarish 0]

@ June 05 2003,12:57)]The tough part is finding an HL server with 262s on it. I guess people don't appreciate getting nailed by planes they can't match  

Yeah I've bitched about that too. I say in late war servers let them all be flown. So far though I haven't had much trouble with the 262 online. From what I can see, most pilots flying them are average at best...and as for the AI...no contest against the late 109's as i've said.

[Badgerboy 0]

The AI is a be retarded when flying 262's. The 262 getting nailed in your sig shouldn't have happened if it was being flown properly. (Unless you got the poor guy on takeoff! )

[Tovarish 0]

Nope, immagine my delight when i saw he was going for a scissors .

[Tex -USMC- 0]

Nope, immagine my delight when i saw he was going for a scissors .

well, the bugger deserved it.

[Renagade 0]

I like the BI-I better than ur stinky 262s  

[Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0]

Heh, that little biplane is fun to fly

[Tovarish 0]

So Tex, Hit_Sqd_Maximus and I got together  on HL to play a bit of FB the other night, and Tex and I had some awesome dogfights. We did some Yak-3 vs. Yak-3, and then early-war Lagg-3 vs bf-109F-4. I've got a few select tracks from that event, as well as some screenies for those here without the game. One thing we neglected to do was go at it both in German AC, after all, Tex took me on in my baby. Perhaps next time .

<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>Warning - these tracks might have caused a computer crash

...so you be careful if you use BadgerBoy's exact Motherboard/Sound card configuration mmmmkay?</span></span>

The first fight...not very long  

Another Yak vs. Yak engagement

8 minute dogfight Great fight! I realized I had to bite the dust after botching a low speed maneuver at low alt, after trying unsucsessfully to shake Tex for a few minutes. Unfortunately he fell victim to target fixation and followed me in.

High deflection Rocket Kill! Looks really cool on 1/4 time and externals .

middair with a winner

And now the screenies for those who haven't the sense to buy this great game  

Tex puts some holes into me early on

but I manage to turn it around

"Any landing you can walk away from..."

"Fox 2!"

A rocket does nasty things to an airframe...

The luckiest man in the Luftwaffe, I was baffled by the fact that that he survived that blast.

"Strange...my wing wasn't green...."

As luck would have it, Tex's wing slices through mine and he emerges unscathed!

[Tex -USMC- 0]

If Il-2 were a drug there'd be a law against it, cuz it's so much fun

And Tov, wait till I can dogfight you above 2000 meters- thats where the F4 really shines. As you saw, it's a little anemic at low altitudes. Great fun though

[Tovarish 0]

@ June 10 2003,00:46)]And Tov, wait till I can dogfight you above 2000 meters- thats where the F4 really shines. As you saw, it's a little anemic at low altitudes. Great fun though  

I know, you have to drag me up though, if you're willing to engage me at low alt, I'd be dumb not to take that advantage . You should have done a bit more rolling when on the evasive too, the La family's common Achille's heel is their roll rate. Next time I'll try a bf109F-4 against you, should be interesting.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

I was kind of surprised at how well the Lagg performed last night (after putting so many to death in singleplayer), so I put myself in a quick mission against an ace Lagg-3. I noticed that at low altitudes, it could turn better than my F4, but the F4 can outclimb it. So, after fighting for my life for about 3 minutes at low levels, I decided to take her up to altitude. Anywhere above 2000, the F4 bends the Lagg over and spanks it lol. Did I mention how much I love the F4? heh. Anyhow, the only other 109 I really love is the Karl- you want to talk about a climbrate. Jesus! Turn on that MW50 and it climbs like a homesick angel. Boom and zoom fun in a sleek and beautiful package with large caliber machine guns and a mk108 cannon...

I guess saying that I love Il2FB yet another time in this thread would be a bit excessive, but... I love this game!

*wipes froth from corner of mouth*

[Tovarish 0]

@ June 10 2003,01:22)]I was kind of surprised at how well the Lagg performed last night

It's all in how you use it. A common interpretation of the acronym LaGG among pilots was 'Lakirovannii Garantirovannii Grob' ('Varnished Guaranteed Coffin'). The rollrate as I've mentioned sucked, the engine was somewhat underpowered and could not go too long on 100% power without overheating, so you constantly have to be working the radiator and throttle settings...but then I didn't notice that much last night...I think it might have been the fact that you had complex engine management disabled. Down low it's a great fighter though, good turn rate, decent instantaneous climb rate, good speed, and very durable. In the Forgotten Wars, this baby excels at escorting IL-2's. No need to go high, and the ability to carry rockets means they can even lend a hand in ground pounding.

[Renagade 0]

Its just a shame there aren`t as many dedicated servers for fogotten battles as IL-2 had all the other ones are usually hosted on some guys pcs

Oh and i kill u all with the JU-87G-1 :P

[Col. Kurtz 0]

It's almost depressing reading about your flying accounts, because I'm such a bad pilot Your here talking about all these fancy manouveres and all these great kills you get, but unless I make the game unrealistic I cannot rival them. As it is, I haven't played FB for weeks. I'm waiting for the patch I tell myself...

But I'll crank it up to watch the tracks posted so I can watch some good tangles between Tex and Tov(arish). You never know, I might learn something.

[Badgerboy 0]

Ah Tex, a lover of the F4 I see. You'll be glad to hear that Oleg is tweaking the 20mm cannons and other low calibers. No longer will you have to pour a stream of fire into the bastards to down them, and your machine guns will become more than tracers.

All they have to do now is sort out the effects of 30mm cannons on LA's, and we'll be sorted. (5 rounds should cripple a B17, yet the La's fly on! )

[Jinef 2]

I reformatted and have forgot to put it back on, I haven't played it recently.

Kurtz m8, you must start out flying in the aircraft that everyone calls shit, try the Hurricane, i can still whip people's ass in that baby, it's ever so stable and brilliant for newbies to learn how to recover from spins, do tight turns at low level etc. If you try to start off flying a B109 E4 you are going to have problems, i cannot believe how many people cannot fly, they keep sticking themselves into spins and stuff. I once got myself into a dogfight with a yak3 and i was in a Hurricane, the guy had two good passes trying to strafe this blur labelled Jinef, then i led him down into the trees. I stuck out my landing gear, and to my suprise he did too, which was silly as i have more lift and was able to lift out at lower speed, he couldn't get any more lift however and ate mud. I was laughing my head off, he must have been doing 130 max when he stuck out his gear, the newbie.

[Tovarish 0]

I stuck out my landing gear, and to my suprise he did too, which was silly as i have more lift and was able to lift out at lower speed, he couldn't get any more lift however and ate mud. I was laughing my head off, he must have been doing 130 max when he stuck out his gear, the newbie.

LOL that reminds me of a story in this book:

The author was in a flight of Hurricanes that spotted some Stukas. After an unsuccessful attack, the flight leader ordered them to lower their landing gear and approach the Stuka's from below - the result - until they were very close the Stuka gunners mistook them as their own!

[Badgerboy 0]

Tovarish, just fired up FB to take a look at your tracks, and when you and Tex plunge into the ground, I hear a farting noise, computer locks, and will no longer post!

Bastards! You planned this didn't you?

(My gaming rig is now stripped bare in an effort to track down the problem)

[bn880 5]

Try new RAM. ;) Actually, lower RAM timing, underclock CPU and Video Card (one at a time) That should help you track down the prob... (well if I read it properly)

[Tovarish 0]

Tovarish, just fired up FB to take a look at your tracks, and when you and Tex plunge into the ground, I hear a farting noise, computer locks, and will no longer post!

Bastards! You planned this didn't you?

(My gaming rig is now stripped bare in an effort to track down the problem)

Damn . Sorry mate! Tracks run fine on my system:

PIII 733 overclocked ->940

512mb pc133 Ram

ATI Radeon 7500 w/64mb DDR

SoundBlaster Live

Tex, did you watch the tracks without problem? Did anyone else have trouble? maybe I should remove the link...

[Badgerboy 0]

Thanks, but I'll track it down. I've suffered far worse with this board anyway.

AT7 MAX2 - You can tweak for fantastic performance, but every few months it has a sulk and shuts down.

If that's the price for running a Athlon 2100 (1.7ghz) at 2.35ghz, then I can live with it!

I'm just waiting for the CMOS to clear, and then I'll try the DIMM's in alternating slots. If I run it in 1 + 3, the VIA controller will issue one voltage controller to each stick.