[Apex] Achievement "None the wiser" - how to get that?

[Brady_The_1 31]

Just did some testing (on the dev branch).

The first parts of the mission don't matter; you can raise as much hell as you want while looking for Blue Cap and dealing with the 4 Viper enemies.  You only got to stay undetected during the exfil objective.  Most likely, if you get the radio call from Raider 1 saying that "Raider 2 engaged the enemy" it means you're not getting the achievement; otherwise you're good.

This is interesting. Before the achievement was fixed in the dev-branch, I tried for hours to unlock it, and restarted every time I did not one-shot enemies in stage 1 and stage 2, because I thought "Shot, but not killed = Alerted", especially because AI (obviously) changed their behaviour.

[TrueCruel_Nobody 35]

^ ^ Interesting.  Without that knowledge, most people, including me, would have spent hours trying to stealthily kill the Viper operatives without alerting them, which is brutally difficult (at least on Veteran difficulty).  If what you wrote is true, the achievement objective should be changed to something like, "Completed the 04 Heart of Darkness campaign mission without alerting the enemy during exfil." Such a change would save players lots of headaches.

It was quite obvious that the first part doesn't count for that (but I still only killed the viper team, just for fun), or you would get the message already there and not later while you escape. 

 

And "cryptic" hints for achievements are interesting, so you actually have to figure it out somehow :)

[OMAC 254]

^ ^ It wasn't at all obvious to me.  Without the info in this thread, there is no way of knowing that there will be a convenient message indicating that you have alerted the enemy, and certainly not at which point in the mission that message can occur.  I have only played the bugged version in Main branch.

[TrueCruel_Nobody 35]

Even in the bugged mission you get the hint from Raider 1 when they are speaking with Watchtower. 

 

After that chatter you get the message "Watchtower blabla, Raider 2 has now engaged the enemy" or something like that. When you get that, you now you fucked up (which is ofc always in the main branch currently).