LOW FPS

[twistedx 10]

So I have read all the topics in this thread and I have an interesting  issue I want to share with you guys and see if I can get some assistance.

I have 2 computers. One I game with and One I stream with. Last year I built a new gaming rig and turned my old one into a full time streaming rig. Here are the specs

Gaming Rig
i7-4970k OC to 4.8 GHZ
16 gig 2133 DDR 4
GTX 980
Asus Swift Rogue with G-Sync Enabled
Windows 10
SSD and storage disk

Stream Rig
I7-3770k oc to 4.3 GHZ
GTX 960
32 gigs of ddr3 1800 mhz
SSD and Spinning storage

When I run my old one running the same mods both characters standing next to each other I get better frame rates on my streaming rig then I do on my gaming rig.

I have tweaked everything that I know how but with this new powerful gaming rig I shouldn't be getting such LOW FPS. I know arma isn't optimized etc etc but meh.

[oldbear 292]

What do you mean by "LOW FPS" ?

 

With some XP, I can tell, it's a point of view problem.

My own point is that low FPS is when the game is not playable.

I had played Arma with an Athlon XP2000 @ 15 FPS in SP and 8 FPS in MP and, as I had posted then, it wasn't playable.

I had played Arma3 on an Athlon II x2 250 @ 25 FPS in SP and 15 FPS in MP, it's not really playable

I am testing a Pentium G4500 @ 35 FPS in SP and 25 FPS in MP it's still playable.

 

So from my point of view, Arma3 is not really playable under 20 FPS and it's fully playable over 30 FPS.

If you are getting less than 20 FPS with an i7-4970K, OK, something is really wrong

[jumpinghubert 47]

Please check

1-if you have exactly all the same ingame settings (copy and paste the arma3 config files from one pc to the other) 

2-system settings (pagefile, same malloc, same parameters in arma3-shortcut)

3-gpu and cpu clock ingame in your newer system 

4-same monitor, if not: different resolutions?

5-same video drivers and driver settings?

6-whats the windows version of your older rig?

7-are the compared ingame situations really the same? Probably use benchmarks like helo´s one

 

That are all ideas at the moment. There is something heavily wrong with your newer rig.

[oldbear 292]

Ok, back on topic ..., some bench tests

 

Configs :

Gaming Rig
i7-4790/GTX 670/16 Go DDR3 1866 [1680x1050]- Windows 10 - Arma3 - No Mod - Build 1.58
Dev Rig
I7-3770/GTX 670/8 Go DDR3 1600 [1680x1050] - Windows 10 Pro - Arma3 - No Mod - Dev Build 1.59
Bench Rig
Pentium G4500/GTX 750Ti/8 Go DDR4 2133 - Windows 10 - Arma3 - No Mod - Build 1.58

Tool : Arma3Mark - Stratis by Helo

Bench results :

Quality : Very High - Overall visibility : 2500 m
Gaming Rig -> 64 FPS
Dev Rig -> 60 FPS
Bench Rig -> 56 FPS

Quality : Very High - Overall visibility : 3500 m
Gaming Rig -> 50 FPS (1)
Dev Rig -> 50 FPS
Bench Rig -> N/A [average 34 FPS with some sideshow sequences]

 

(1) Still 50 FPS, with the more "usual" Gaming Rig hardware config and video settings :

i7-4790/GTX 770 ...  Quality : Ultra - Overall visibility : 3500 m

[Tankbuster 1533]

I'm not trying to be shitty or sarcastic, but... Where's the low fps?

[oldbear 292]

@ tankbuster : ... you react the same way I have done first..., but in fact the "issue" is about having lower FPS on an older, less "power loaded" rig than a special new rig based on i7-4970K OC / GTX 980 and 16 gig 2133 DDR 4 [typo involved?]

 

From my point of view, without any figures based on stable Benchmark tools, the discussion is going to a be esoteric.
 

[Tankbuster 1533]

@ tankbuster : ... you react the same way I have done first..., but in fact the "issue" is about having lower FPS on an older, less "power loaded" rig than a special new rig based on i7-4970K OC / GTX 980 and 16 gig 2133 DDR 4 [typo involved?]

 

From my point of view, without any figures based on stable Benchmark tools, the discussion is going to a be esoteric.

 

 

 

I couldn't agree with you more. Without benchmarks, there's no... erm,,, benchmark :) And what you say about measured FPS is true too - anything over 30 FPS is just fine.

 

I run a 4790K too, but I don't overclock mine, I could if I wanted to, I have a good motherboard and water cooling system, but I never really got improvements in the game. In fact, some overclocks made the game worse, I assume because of the cheap memory that was installed at the time. I'm of the non-expert opinion that this CPU is already in a high state of tune and pushing it further might be counter-productive,

 

Talking of memory, the OP says he has a 4790K CPU and DDR4 memory, that's cant be right, surely? That's an 1150 motherboard that only supports DDR3? Is that what you meant when you questioned the typo?

[oldbear 292]

About  "... 16 gig 2133 DDR 4 [typo involved?]"

Of course I am wondering about it.

As far as I know there is no 1150 motherboard supporting DDR4, but  if I can get a new bit of knowledge, I am ready for it.

[jumpinghubert 47]

@oldbear

Do you think my questions were offtopic? His problem is simple to understand: He has lower fps on a faster rig. So we have to find the cause. Now lets ask questions to find the brake or the hided difference in the configuration to have a clean apple to apple scenario....not?

 

edit:

and wait for his answers to go on in the troubleshooting..