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Yes! The i5-10600K not only will have 12 threads and be soldered, but it also will have the same DIE size as the i9-10900K, which is slightly bigger than the DIE of i7-8700K (also 12 threads from 2017) + the DIE will also be lower/thinner.

All of this will result in lower temps (also vs. i7-8700K) and also 4.8 GHz stock is what Arma will like for sure.

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Hi, I’m trying to figure out if I should get the ryzen 5 3600 or go with the ryzen 7 3700x for arma 3 . Which cpu would be better ? Or should I wait until the next gen ryzen CPU’s come out ?

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@123golden Welcome our Armaverse forums 😎

There is no simple answer to the question. It would be nice to give us more information on what you are looking for, especially the budget conditions and other uses for this PC.

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@123goldenI would wait until Ryzen 4xxx release, if you can support/accept your current PC performance until then.

I think Ryzen 4xxx will be announced/showed/released in September.

The performance gains vs. Ryzen 3xxx, in Arma, would be worth the wait 100%. 

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8 hours ago, Groove_C said:

@123goldenI would wait until Ryzen 4xxx release, if you can support/accept your current PC performance until then.

I think Ryzen 4xxx will be announced/showed/released in September.

The performance gains vs. Ryzen 3xxx, in Arma, would be worth the wait 100%. 

 

14 hours ago, oldbear said:

@123golden Welcome our Armaverse forums 😎

There is no simple answer to the question. It would be nice to give us more information on what you are looking for, especially the budget conditions and other uses for this PC.


 

I’m building a gaming pc and I can’t wait till the next gen comes out , if the next gen is so good I could always upgrade . I want to be able to play arma 3 , squad , escape from tarkov and rust and I know they are demanding games and since I’m on a budgets it’s kinda hard to get the best parts . I can only afford either the ryzen 7 3700x since it’s on sale or the ryzen 5 3600 . Those 5 games are not the only games I will be playing but I know that I will be playing them the most . Would it be ok if you guys make a list of parts that will be able to handle those demanding games within my budget 

budget : 1,500  USD 

I already have a keyboard and mouse but I do not have a monitor so keep that in mind if you are kind enough to make a list. 
I’m new to this pc stuff but I’m learning everyday . Thank you 

 

Edit : this build is for gaming 

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@123golden

I would go for R5 3600 and 16 GB G.Skill Flare X 3200 CL14.

Especially Tarkov is very very heavy on RAM banwidth and timings.

In $200 class, MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WiFi has dethroned Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite and Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus 🙂

It beats even most high end boards in CPU power delivery components thermals and has both M.2 SSD slots passively cooled by an aluminum plate

It even has Wi-Fi 6 (802,11ax) and Bluetooth 5.1 from Intel, 2.5G LAN port from Realtek (instead of just 1G) and also USB BIOS flash button to update the BIOS even without CPU, RAM and GPU installed.

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To have both M.2 SSD slots passively cooled as well, but from Gigabyte, you would have to go for X570 Aorus Pro (Aorus Elite has only 1 M.2 slot passively cooled), but it's no longer the champion 🙂

 

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Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD65w5RVmtY&feature=youtu.be&t=337

 

Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro is the best B450 board with 2 M.2 SSD slot passively cooled and good onboard sound with amplifier for higher ohms good quality headphones.

 

For the GPU it depends whether 1920x1080 or 2560x1440 monitor resolution, since Squad and Tarkov are very GPU heavy.

5700 (XT) have really excellent power for $$$, but AMD drivers still aren't as optimized as nVidia and streaming/recording gameplay via GPU is a pain in the ass on AMD with Relive.

 

You shouldn't go lower than 5700 or RTX 2060 Super and lower than 8 GB vRAM.

 

Considering you also need a monitor, I hope you keep your current PSU, HDD/SSD and case.

Otherwise, building a new PC with good performance that you won't need to upgrade again any time soon won't be possible.

Because going for only 3200 MHz 16-18-18 RAM instead of 3200 MHz 14-14-14 and RX 590/GTX 1660 Ti, you would have to lower graphic settings in Squad and especially in Tarkov right from the start.

Not even speaking from what your experience would be in few years with such PC.

 

If you choose to buy only a B450 chipset mainboard (instead of X570 chipset), you won't be able to upgrade later to a better (second hand used) CPU, like upcoming Ryzen 4xxx.

Only X570 and B550 chipset boards will support Ryzen 4xxx.

B550 chipset boards will be released in June. This is what I would get, if you can wait 1 month?

Otherwise X570 chipset board - namely MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WiFi.

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And if the 3600X is not much more expensive where you live, I would rather get it instead of 3600, since 4.4 GHz is better for Arma and especially for Tarkov and Squad.

3600 can boost only up to 4.2 GHz and manually overclocking Ryzens often results in worse performance than when running on Auto (stock), despite higher than stock frequency.

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9x YAAB 1.0 standard 1080p
i7-9700K (R0 Stepping) 5.1/4.8 GHz core/cache 1.35V (under load) @ Arctic Lquid Freezer II 280 mm (not delidded)
2x8 GB Trident Z 3200 CL14 @ 4000 15-14-15-28-360-2T 1.5 V max 35°C (under Load) @ 80 mm 5V fan
GTX 1060 3 GB
Fast sync in nVidia control pannel
CMA malloc AVX2
Real time arma3_x64.exe priority
sceneComplexity=600.000; (standard)

 

PC is not mine, but I've helped to build it and could test it in A3 YAAB myself
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Standard Intel i7-9700K seems to runs @ 3.60 GHz / 4.90 GHz Turbo maxi so this one was overclocked. It would be better to say this before presenting the results.

Too bad we haven't  standard i7-9700K results while running a Standard YAAB test.

 

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Well, I've mentioned core and cache frequency. One can always check CPU specs on Intel site.

There is no reason to not OC a CPU for additional performance for free.

At stock, turbo all cores is only 4.6 GHz.

 

YAAB was also run at standard, as I've stated as well.

There is also no point in not squeezing out performance for free, like when using CMA AVX2 malloc.

 

With only 6 cores (aka i5-9600K), results are same.

Without CMA AVX2 and without Windows large pages, avg. FPS is 10 FPS lower, around 72-73.

 

There were already results here from stock CPUs and RAM. But it's not interesting at all.

It's interesting to see what one can achieve in Arma by OCing CPU and RAM.

 

So one can buy an i5-9600K or better an i5-10600K + 16 GB DDR4 3200 14-14-14 for acceptable price and make Arma fly.

 

There will be refreshes of Ryzen 3xxx with higher clocks, but RAM and intercore latencies won't be lower than 63-65 in best case scenario with max RAM OC to like 3800 MHz 15-14-15.

 

So until Ryzen 4xxx, Intel will remain the king, in Arma.

And an i5-10600K is really not a bad buy, with 12 threads + good OC potential + very strong memory controller.

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9900K stock boost all cores 4.7/4.3 GHz + stock RAM 3600 16-16-16-36

i9-9900K (8C/16T) @ 4.7/4.3 GHz core/cache | 16 GB DDR4 3600 MHz 16-16-16-36-631-2T (single rank) | RTX 2080 Ti

66.9 FPS 1080p standard YAAB

 

i7-9700K (8C/8T) @ 5.1/4.8 GHz core/cache | 16 GB DDR4 4000 MHz 15-14-15-28-360-2T (single rank) | GTX 1060 3 GB

73 FPS 1080p standard YAAB

 

i7-9700K (8C/8T) @ 5.1/4.8 GHz core/cache | 16 GB DDR4 4000 MHz 15-14-15-28-360-2T (single rank) | GTX 1060 3 GB

+ CMA AVX2

84.5 FPS 1080p standard YAAB

 

Stock i7-9700K is only 100 MHz slower than i9-9900K.

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Alo, this is my Pc :

ACER Aspire TC-230, PC Desktop mit A8-7410 Prozessor, 8 GB RAM, 2 TB HDD, GeForce GT 720, 2 GB

Can i run Arma 3? At 30 to 40 Fps?

I'am also a Gforcenow founders member and i usually play Argo in there is not so great but. I want to give Arma 3 a try but, i have reading on foruns that Arma 3 is not so good with Gforcenow so maybe with this pc i could give it a try? What do you think?

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Welcome!

I'm sorry to say that it is not possible to consider playing Arma3 with this PC.

The gap between the specifications of this Aspire TC-260 and the minimum required is too great.

 

I order to get an enjoyable gaming experience on a regular basis above 30 FPS with Arma3 APEX, you should consider a configuration like this one ...

CPU : Ryzen R5 1600AF
MoBo : B450
RAM : 16 GB (2x8GB) 3000 MHz
GPU : RX 570 -if still available- or GTX 1650
SSD : 500 GB SATA (Windows+Arma3)

 

 

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On 5/26/2020 at 1:02 PM, Groove_C said:

YAAB was also run at standard, as I've stated as well.

There is also no point in not squeezing out performance for free, like when using CMA AVX2 malloc.

 

With only 6 cores (aka i5-9600K), results are same.

Without CMA AVX2 and without Windows large pages, avg. FPS is 10 FPS lower, around 72-73.

 

There were already results here from stock CPUs and RAM. But it's not interesting at all.

It's interesting to see what one can achieve in Arma by OCing CPU and RAM.

 

 

I tried to run the specific malloc that you mentioned but I can't see any difference. Probably because I'm getting this but not sure. I'm using Win 10 Home and I can't change the sec policy.

Btw can you provide a direct link to the malloc?

Config:
User is admin: yes
tSeLockMemoryPrivilege: failed
Using normal pages

 

I have large pages enabled in the Steam Launcher for Arma 3. Large pages seem to work with default mallocs but not with custom.

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Hello all,

 

Apologies if this is in the wrong place. I'm a noobie here.

 

I know very little about how to put a PC together, but I am thinking of buying a gaming rig from a custom builder website to play predominantly A3.

 

Can you take a look at these specs and give me a steer on whether the various parts will work ok together?

I am wanting to max FPS, initially at 1080p @ 144Hz.

 

Thanks in advance

 

John

 

Case

COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH RGB GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU)

Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-9700K (3.6GHz) 12MB Cache

Motherboard

Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - ARGB Ready

Memory (RAM)

16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)

Graphics Card

8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!

1st Storage Drive

2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE

1st M.2 SSD Drive

500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)

2nd M.2 SSD Drive

2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)

Power Supply

CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Processor Cooling

Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler

Thermal Paste

ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND

Sound Card

ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Wireless/Wired Networking

WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0

USB/Thunderbolt Options

2 PORT (1 x TYPE A, 1 x TYPE C) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS

Operating System

Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence

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