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I've got a FX4100 OC to 4.6ghz and a GTX560 OC to 940 MHz and I average about 20 to 25 frames on wasteland. Thats with low to medium view distances and high settings everywhere else. In my pursuit of better frames I've opened up my ASUS GPU Tweak and monitor to see how the GPU is fairing and it's mostly maxing out at 99%. I've also got windows resource monitor opened and on the CPU side, the CPU is barely raising a sweat, about 40-45%. Weird because I was expecting the other way around given that ARMA games are biased towards the CPU.

In the meantime, would I be better off going for a better video card before updating my processor? Has anyone else here experienced what I've just explained?

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I've got a FX4100 OC to 4.6ghz and a GTX560 OC to 940 MHz and I average about 20 to 25 frames on wasteland. Thats with low to medium view distances and high settings everywhere else. In my pursuit of better frames I've opened up my ASUS GPU Tweak and monitor to see how the GPU is fairing and it's mostly maxing out at 99%. I've also got windows resource monitor opened and on the CPU side, the CPU is barely raising a sweat, about 40-45%. Weird because I was expecting the other way around given that ARMA games are biased towards the CPU.

In the meantime, would I be better off going for a better video card before updating my processor? Has anyone else here experienced what I've just explained?

Bottleneck alert!

First of all benchmark singleplayer. Then tune settings!

Your CPU isn't sweating and mostly chills out because your graphics card is too weak for the settings you're running.

Actually I'm really not sure how CPU-reliant ARMA3 is and because of the many graphics settings I would assume it actually requires a better graphics card than some would assume.

Anyways: CPUs are strong. You can go many graphics card generations on one CPU and not even quad-Titans ($4000) will max out a single $220 4th gen CPU. So consider that carefully.

So “CPU-heavy†probably doesn’t mean a game isn’t also quite graphics heavy.

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Thanks Sneakson. I went and had another look at what I had and in fact the average CPU utilization was only 35%. I'll also add that my launch parameters in steam have been added to suit my CPU ie # of cores etc as I can see an even spread of usage between all four cores in my CPU.

Time for another video card then :)

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Not sure if this is right area to post this question, but what it is ... I really want to get into this game and was wondering what good responsive ergonomic gaming mouse and matching surface to get the best out of ARMA 3?

I realise Mice for shooters are highly individual choices but would like to hear some recommendations, using a Logitech wireless G700 just now for general windows work and ponting at menu's in flight sims, a wired mouse would seem best bet i guess, also don't really fancy the cloth mouse mats or gigantic ones but definitely something with low friction that looks modern.

Please move or delete this request if inappropriate for this thread.

TIA.

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I won't suggest any mouse because I'm not very familiar with different models (I have Logitech G400 myself), but you might want to buy separate teflon feet and replace the original feet of the mouse with them... Most of them are pretty cheap, they cost only a few bucks/€ so they're not a big investment especially if you really appreciate low friction.

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I won't suggest any mouse because I'm not very familiar with different models (I have Logitech G400 myself), but you might want to buy separate teflon feet and replace the original feet of the mouse with them... Most of them are pretty cheap, they cost only a few bucks/€ so they're not a big investment especially if you really appreciate low friction.

Good suggestion, just looked under this G700 though and they are odd patterns (quite worn too) do you get to cut your own shapes from teflon material for this kind of thing?

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Not sure if this is right area to post this question, but what it is ... I really want to get into this game and was wondering what good responsive ergonomic gaming mouse and matching surface to get the best out of ARMA 3?

I realise Mice for shooters are highly individual choices but would like to hear some recommendations, using a Logitech wireless G700 just now for general windows work and ponting at menu's in flight sims, a wired mouse would seem best bet i guess, also don't really fancy the cloth mouse mats or gigantic ones but definitely something with low friction that looks modern.

Please move or delete this request if inappropriate for this thread.

TIA.

SteelSeries Sensei isn’t ergonomic but is one of the advanced mice out there.

Also check out Corsair, Logitech, Mad Catz, Microsoft, Mionix, Razer, Roccat, Zowie…

DeathAdder, Mamba, RAT7, RATM and Naos 8200 are some I’ve considered.

Mouse mats: SteelSeries QcK+... or Razer Goliathus if you wanna pay two-three times more ofcourse.

Hard mats wear out and they wear out your mouse so I can’t recommend one.

I'm no mouse expert though. Not sure which have the best sensors, super-small amounts of acceleration and wouldn't agree optical is the way to go like some other maniacs do.

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Good suggestion, just looked under this G700 though and they are odd patterns (quite worn too) do you get to cut your own shapes from teflon material for this kind of thing?

Both exist, but there are precut feet to most popular mouses at least... Eg. G700 teflon feet on Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=Logitech+G700+Gaming+Mouse+Feet+Black&_osacat=0&_trksid=m570.l3201&_nkw=Logitech+G700+Gaming+Mouse+Feet+teflon&_sacat=0 and http://www.ebay.com/itm/Logitech-G700-Gaming-Mouse-Feet-Teflon-Black-/220961981897?pt=AU_Input_Peripherals&hash=item33725c45c9

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Good afternoon,

I hope you can help me please.

I am looking to purchase the ARMA 3 Game and would like to know if my system will be able to run it? If so can you please tel me the best setting to run the game on.

Here is my system specks

Many Thanks in advance!!!!!!

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130708-1532)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

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BIOS: InsydeH2O Version 1.0 A03

Processor: Intel® Core i7-2630QM CPU @ 2.00GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.0GHz

Memory: 4096MB RAM

Available OS Memory: 4044MB RAM

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Windows Dir: C:\Windows

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Good afternoon,

I hope you can help me please.

I am looking to purchase the ARMA 3 Game and would like to know if my system will be able to run it? If so can you please tel me the best setting to run the game on.

Here is my system specks

Many Thanks in advance!!!!!!

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130708-1532)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: Alienware

System Model: M14xR1

BIOS: InsydeH2O Version 1.0 A03

Processor: Intel® Core i7-2630QM CPU @ 2.00GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.0GHz

Memory: 4096MB RAM

Available OS Memory: 4044MB RAM

Page File: 3423MB used, 4662MB available

Windows Dir: C:\Windows

DirectX Version: DirectX 11

DX Setup Parameters: Not found

User DPI Setting: Using System DPI

System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)

DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled

DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

Hard to tell. Okay CPU but 8 cores which may not work well since ARMA only uses a couple efficiently... and the graphics card is weak... I would say no. It will probably run with SOME settings but it won’t be pretty and it probably won’t be smooth. Too bad Alpha is over so you can’t have an invitation and try it out easily. Maybe there will be a demo when the game comes out.

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Many thanks for your feedback, its a shame do you think it will work if i upgrate the graghics card and if so what would you sugest? once again thanks for your help

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Many thanks for your feedback, its a shame do you think it will work if i upgrate the graghics card and if so what would you sugest? once again thanks for your help

Well I really don't know how well that CPU performs in gaming but a 560 Ti, 660 or 660 Ti should be more than enough... and that should bring it up to around standard-high settings in 40-60+ fps I guess.

Upgrading both CPU and GPU at the same time would be the best and would probably need a motherboard change too but without having seen what RAM you have exactly I guess they're fine... maybe a power supply change too.

I can't really tell what it is you have. Isn’t a laptop, no?

Anyways a new CPU costs about $220 on Amazon, a 660 Ti $210, 560 Ti $140 and motherboard maybe around $100... power supply about $66 if that's needed.

Memories don’t make much of a difference mostly.

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Hey guys,

I just bought a gtx 760 so I could get better framerate in arma 3.

Here are specs for my rig

Intel i7 860 2.8ghz (1st gen)

8gb of ram (1066)

Asus Gtx 760 2gb

Windows 7

I'm still getting bad fps in arma 3. In single player its around 30-40 and multiple 10-15 fps. It wasn't much of an improvement from my gtx 260. I was hoping that i get go Sli with 2 cards if one wasn't powerful enough but now I see that arma doesn't support SLI yet so that would be pointless. Is it normal that I'm getting this low FPS, I updated drivers and everything. If I can't get better FPS im thinking of trying to return this card to newegg and getting a 770 or 780. Any suggestions?

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New to Arma and want to build a system to arma 3 and arma 2. This is my first build. Can anyone shed light if I am going about this wrong.

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK Black Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower

Computer Case

1 Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA

6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

1 BenQ Gaming XL2720T Black 27" 1ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED

Backlight LCD Monitor 3D-Ready

2 EVGA 04G-P4-3768-KR GeForce GTX 760 FTW 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI

Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card w/ EVGA ACX Cooler

1 Antec HCP-1300 Platinum 1300W ATX12V / EPS12V Yes Yes 80 PLUS

PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Intel ...

1 Corsair Vengeance K70 CH-9000011-NA Black USB Wired Gaming Mechanical

Keyboard

1 Cyborg R.A.T. 5 Gaming Mouse for PC and Mac - Matte Black

1 G.SKILL Trident X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133

(PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-2133C9Q-32GTX

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

1 SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC

Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel

HD Graphics BX80646I54670K

MSI Z87-G45 Gaming LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Pro

Gaming with Killer Networking & Sound Blaster Intel ...

Corsair H100 i cooler

Thanks. I hope it all fits together..LOL

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I hear it way to often ppl saying sli is not supported. Ive been running sli since alfa release with no issues.

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@reservoir - looks like a pretty good setup. Only comments i have is that i would rather 1 780 over 760 sli. 16gb ram is more than enough unless u specifically want 32.

I would dedicate the ssd to the windows install and arma. Ive done it that way for years and always had good performance.

Dont forget the track ir! hehe

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It seems a lot of people here seem to think old cpu and gfx cards will run the game they will but at low gfx and fps, from my experience from the 2 pc's I have bought to play arma3 money talks, both cpu and gfx need to be of good quality ie price you can't expect a £500 pc to play this game well £500 is a budget machine.

My arma2 pc was a q6600 on asus maximus formular 8 gig ram 60gig sd drive ATI HD6970 2gb ram it ran fine for arma2 ,when I used it for arma 3 "well above the min specs" the game did not fare so well so an upgrade was in order.

The first board and cpu were asus extreme 3 core I7 950@3.1 12gb ram same gfx card as above and the same sd drive I got a bit better performance but still was not happy with it so I got the next gen asus sabretooth I7 3770 @4.2 x2 Ati hd 6970 now have 4 gig of gfx ram and the same sd drive and I get 60 fps with no drop fully maxed on ultra settings every thing up to max the only way to get better fps now is a new monitor.

£500 budget pc

£1500 midrange pc

£2000-3000 top end pc

I say you get what you pay for in life.

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I have a rig with the following specs:

i7 950

12GB DDR3

GTX 460SE 1024mb

256gb OCZ Vertex 4 SSD

and get 30-40fps with "standard" settings at 1920x1200 in the average single player missions.

I am contemplating upgrading the GPU to allow me to bump the graphics quality up, but I'm not sure how effective this will be. Does anyone have any idea how badly my CPU is likely to bottleneck with, say, a GTX760?

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It seems a lot of people here seem to think old cpu and gfx cards will run the game they will but at low gfx and fps, from my experience from the 2 pc's I have bought to play arma3 money talks, both cpu and gfx need to be of good quality ie price you can't expect a £500 pc to play this game well £500 is a budget machine.

My arma2 pc was a q6600 on asus maximus formular 8 gig ram 60gig sd drive ATI HD6970 2gb ram it ran fine for arma2 ,when I used it for arma 3 "well above the min specs" the game did not fare so well so an upgrade was in order.

The first board and cpu were asus extreme 3 core I7 950@3.1 12gb ram same gfx card as above and the same sd drive I got a bit better performance but still was not happy with it so I got the next gen asus sabretooth I7 3770 @4.2 x2 Ati hd 6970 now have 4 gig of gfx ram and the same sd drive and I get 60 fps with no drop fully maxed on ultra settings every thing up to max the only way to get better fps now is a new monitor.

£500 budget pc

£1500 midrange pc

£2000-3000 top end pc

I say you get what you pay for in life.

Couldn't agree more.

Too many people on here have ridiculous expectations of low to mid range hardware where Arma 3 is concerned.

Even more annoying is that they don't apply these expectations to other games, it's just a double standard where A3 not running at a constant 60FPS on a 660 (for example) is unacceptable but they don't level the same assault on the myriad of other games that a 660 won't run at a constant 60FPS.

Equally, many people don't take into the consideration the fact that this is a non linear simulator and not some corridor shooter - it requires a lot of horsepower, which as you quite rightly pointed out, costs money.

From the Alpha up until the current dev build, the performance has been constantly improving but no patch will turn a 660 into a 780.

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I'd already call a £1000 pc highend, a haswell i5 + fast single gpu will get you performance close to the most expensive rigs. Spending more for a sli setup would only make sense for very high res screens (or image quality whores who want to play with downsampling).

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I have a rig with the following specs:

i7 950

12GB DDR3

GTX 460SE 1024mb

256gb OCZ Vertex 4 SSD

and get 30-40fps with "standard" settings at 1920x1200 in the average single player missions.

I am contemplating upgrading the GPU to allow me to bump the graphics quality up, but I'm not sure how effective this will be. Does anyone have any idea how badly my CPU is likely to bottleneck with, say, a GTX760?

Play a few games on very low resolution, that's how the pc will perform with a very fast gpu.

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No, it won't - not if you want all the eye candy on.

I wish I could spend that and get the same results.

Just because people want to max things out and play at high resolutions/multi monitors and max settings doesn't make them 'whores', simply people who are serious about their hobby and are willing to invest money in it.

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But if you dont care much about looks there's no way to pay and get better performance, for arma a haswell i5 is as good as it gets if there's a big fight going on.

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Yah, if you don't care how it looks, maybe it's time for Minecraft or Angry Birds ;)

In games like A3, the visual experience is extremely important to me (as well as the audio).

The more realistic it looks and sounds, the better the immersion.

Obviously, where A3 is concerned, buildings and lots of AI will drive you headlong into the CPU bottleneck but it is far more relevant a discussion vis a vis most other games.

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I hear it way to often ppl saying sli is not supported. Ive been running sli since alfa release with no issues.

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@reservoir - looks like a pretty good setup. Only comments i have is that i would rather 1 780 over 760 sli. 16gb ram is more than enough unless u specifically want 32.

I would dedicate the ssd to the windows install and arma. Ive done it that way for years and always had good performance.

Dont forget the track ir! hehe

I have heard that 2 gtx 680 SLI are more powerful than a Titan. Is one nividia 780 better than two 760?

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Ohh!!!!!! and YES a track IR is on the list.. thanks...

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Hey guys,

I just bought a gtx 760 so I could get better framerate in arma 3.

Here are specs for my rig

Intel i7 860 2.8ghz (1st gen)

8gb of ram (1066)

Asus Gtx 760 2gb

Windows 7

I'm still getting bad fps in arma 3. In single player its around 30-40 and multiple 10-15 fps. It wasn't much of an improvement from my gtx 260. I was hoping that i get go Sli with 2 cards if one wasn't powerful enough but now I see that arma doesn't support SLI yet so that would be pointless. Is it normal that I'm getting this low FPS, I updated drivers and everything. If I can't get better FPS im thinking of trying to return this card to newegg and getting a 770 or 780. Any suggestions?

Hello!

It looks like to me that your CPU is too weak for your graphics card! A 760 vs a 260 is a big step and should definitely make a big difference however your CPU is 4 years old which quite old for a CPU!

Your CPU does 2.8 to 3.5 GHz while a new CPU does 3.5 to 3.9 GHz and even at 3.5 a new CPU would be stronger than your three generations older CPU.

It seems to me that you’re experiencing that your CPU is bottlenecking your graphics card.

You shouldn’t(!) return it for a better card!

By the way ARMA does support SLI now.

What you should do is buy an Intel Core i5-4670K or i7-4770K if you work with 3D or video rendering or other work that needs an i7 and have extra money to spare.

If you want to confirm this use Ctrl+Alt+Delete, Task Manager, Performance tab, Resource monitor, CPU tab and watch your â€CPU – total†and â€CPU 0... 1... 2...†and so on to watch each individual core and MSI Afterburner or any similar program to monitor your GPU usage then play the game and Alt+tab out of it and watch what your readings were 10 seconds ago to see how much your CPU and GPU was in use. If the CPU is around 90% in use and the GPU down around 50% in use then you have a clear case of bottlenecking.

Note that right now we’re investigating if something can be done to speed up performance on i7s so if you can wait a week or two something may be able to be done like disabling hyperthreading or allocating ARMA to virtual cores which we have discussed but not thoroughly tested yet.

Also overclocking will speed up your CPU obviously.

But if you just want things to go easy buy a new CPU, they’re cheap.

Also make sure you’re running 64-bit Windows 7 by the way which isn’t obvious to everyone.

Oh and if you want a higher framerate you can obviously turn down your settings!

What settings are you on?

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New to Arma and want to build a system to arma 3 and arma 2. This is my first build. Can anyone shed light if I am going about this wrong.

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK Black Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower

Computer Case

1 Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA

6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

1 BenQ Gaming XL2720T Black 27" 1ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED

Backlight LCD Monitor 3D-Ready

2 EVGA 04G-P4-3768-KR GeForce GTX 760 FTW 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI

Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card w/ EVGA ACX Cooler

1 Antec HCP-1300 Platinum 1300W ATX12V / EPS12V Yes Yes 80 PLUS

PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Intel ...

1 Corsair Vengeance K70 CH-9000011-NA Black USB Wired Gaming Mechanical

Keyboard

1 Cyborg R.A.T. 5 Gaming Mouse for PC and Mac - Matte Black

1 G.SKILL Trident X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133

(PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-2133C9Q-32GTX

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

1 SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC

Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel

HD Graphics BX80646I54670K

MSI Z87-G45 Gaming LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Pro

Gaming with Killer Networking & Sound Blaster Intel ...

Corsair H100 i cooler

Thanks. I hope it all fits together..LOL

• Case: are you sure you want a computer that big? Check out the measurements and compare to the mid-size Phantom 410 and other models available here:

http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/34-phantom

Excellent cases otherwise, I hear.

• HDD: WD Blue 1TB it is yes sir.

• Can’t say much about that monitor but knowing the series I’m assuming it’s a 120 Hz 3D-ready 1920x1080 16:9 TN-monitor. Right now that’s exactly what you should get if you want 120 Hz over the better image quality that some 60 Hz monitors offer.

• Okay now: EVGA. 760. 4GB. First of all EVGA are nice and usually cheaper than the other brands but rarely best. Still, nice choice. 760 yes. 4GB? Well, mostly no. I don’t know what the price difference between 2GB and 4GB is however if you’re only gaming in 1920x1080 you won’t need more than 2GB VRAM so you may as well save some money there right? Okay.

• Antec 1300W... NO. Are you planning on running a light-weight computer or a nuclear reactor son? 430-550W is enough. Also 80+ Bronze to Gold will be enough. Unless you’re planning on using many graphics cards soon in which case 800W+ will be enough to run any two cards.

• Corsair Vengeance K70... yes. Nice amount of buttons and red switches I assume that should be nice to game on and probably write on as well.

• RAT 5? Matte, absolutely! If they’re not matte they get very sticky. But why the RAT 5? Why not RAT 7? Also take time to check out the websites of Corsair, Logitech, Mad Catz (RAT), Microsoft, Mionix, Razer, Roccat and SteelSeries to see if they have any other keyboards or mice that you like.

Nearly everyone does mice by the way. Gigabyte known for their graphics cards and motherboards and Aerocool, Cooler Master, NZXT, Thermaltake and Zalman all known for cases and cooling have allmade some mice apparently. Zowie is another company that only make high-quality mice and keyboards.

• Corsair have the best memories but G skill are second. However you’ve made some very bad choices. First of all 8GB (2x4) is surely enough. Second they should be 1600 MHz not 2133 MHz because not all CPUs and motherboards support more than 1600 and I think you have to overclock them and stuff to make them work and besides there’s nearly no difference in speed. And buying 2x4GB 1600 MHz instead of 32GB 2133 is going to save you $250 without making your computer one bit weaker :) You may send this money to me now.

• Windows 7 HP SP1 64-bit is what you should buy yes and it doesn’t even support more than 16GB memory so it’s a good thing I set you straight, huh? I own.

• Samsung 840 Pro 256GB? Are you some sort of millionaire again? 840 or 840 Evo will do but I would recommend 250GB because SSDs drop in cost so much evey year buying anything over 500GB would be madness and buying 1TB only really makes sense if you want to go 100% SSD. Which is somewhat early.

• i5-4670K hell yeah.

• MSI Z87-G45 Gaming hell yeah. Why not get an MSI GTX 760 2GB while you’re at it instead of EVGA?

• Corsair H100i? Do you have any idea what you are doing? First of all you will only need additional cooling if you’re going to do overclocking which in best case will earn you 10-20% CPU strength. If you do want to overclock and is prepared that it will decrease the lifelength of your CPU and possibly void your warranty and all that I would recommend the Noctua NH-D14 or the Corsair H110 or I guess if you really want the H100i. They will all work about the same however I think the H100i is a lot louder and naturally both water-cooling solutions are more expensive than the air-cooling solution without being much better actually.

I can tell you don’t know much about computers. Being your first build too. Have you even got someone around that can build this computer for you? Because if you order this they’re all going to be in parts and you’re going to have to put it together yourself unless ofcourse you buy it through a site that mounts it for you or you know someone that can do it for you.

Good luck.

Summary:

Some NZXT Phantom

MSI Z87-G45 Gaming

MSI GTX 760 Gaming 2GB (aka MSI N760 TF 2GD5/OC 2GB)

Intel Core i5-4670K

2x4GB 1600 MHz Cl9 memories by Corsair or G Skill

Western Digital Blue 1TB

Samsung 840 Evo 250GB (or 120GB)

DVD?

Corsair CX500M or Seasonic G-550 or something such

Think twice about extra cooling (and overclocking)

Think twice about that monitor (it’s expensive!)

Windows 7 HP SP1 64-bit

Whatever mouse and keyboard

And finally you probably have some speakers already.

Edit: oh and shit son, you wrote 2 760s? No. How much money do you have and what are you trying to do with this computer?

In Battlefield 3, a well optimized game:

1 760 - okay

1 770 - 20% better

1 780 - about 45% better

1 Titan - about 60% better

2 760 - about 77% better and about as expensive as 1 780 however there some some drawbacks with using 2 graphics cards:

• Draws more electricity

• Needs a better power supply (still no more than 800W)

• Microstuttering in some games

• Games have to support SLI

• It sometimes takes a couple of weeks for game to have SLI support

• Even with SLI support the second card doesn't always add 90% (best case) as can be seen even in Battlefield 3 it only adds 77%

• Other compatibility issues

• ARMA3 doesn't have great SLI support AND doesn't require that much graphic card strength to begin with so you're likely not to see much increase!

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I hear it way to often ppl saying sli is not supported. Ive been running sli since alfa release with no issues.

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@reservoir - looks like a pretty good setup. Only comments i have is that i would rather 1 780 over 760 sli. 16gb ram is more than enough unless u specifically want 32.

I would dedicate the ssd to the windows install and arma. Ive done it that way for years and always had good performance.

Dont forget the track ir! hehe

ARMA3 has only supported SLI officially for some weeks actually.

I agree about 1 780 potentially being better than 760 SLI because of SLI compatibility issues and the 780 having 3GB VRAM versus 2+2=2GB of 760 SLI.

16GB RAM is too much.

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£500 budget pc

£1500 midrange pc

£2000-3000 top end pc

I say you get what you pay for in life.

£500 Entry-level

£800 Mid-range

£1000 Strong

£1500 Stronger and classier

£2000 Maxing out a sane build

£3000 Extreme build

£4000 Maxing out including monitors, audio and basically everything.

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I have a rig with the following specs:

i7 950

12GB DDR3

GTX 460SE 1024mb

256gb OCZ Vertex 4 SSD

and get 30-40fps with "standard" settings at 1920x1200 in the average single player missions.

I am contemplating upgrading the GPU to allow me to bump the graphics quality up, but I'm not sure how effective this will be. Does anyone have any idea how badly my CPU is likely to bottleneck with, say, a GTX760?

According to what we're hearing about another guy with a slightly weaker CPU and a 760 you shouldn't upgrade graphics card all too much.

Save for a 4670K then a 760 probably.

You can probably tweak your settings a bit by the way but if you really wanna go higher then upgrade.

Check my settings.

Edited by Sneakson

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