gliptal 25 Posted March 10, 2013 Since Nvidia cards support PhysX, would they theoretically run the game faster than an AMD card?Calculations would be made by the GPU and not the CPU, it then depends on the hardware itself if the game would run smoother or not...Yay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imrevned 1 Posted March 10, 2013 Physics is simulated ONLY on cpu. There are currently no features that would take advantage of the Nvidia's CUDA engine.1) Ragdolls & general simulation is a CPU thing; 2) What you're talking about is fluff like EXTRAAAZZ particlezzz & dust puffs that Nvidia likes to advertise a lot. :) The latter is not in the game. (yet?) Ohhh okay, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.! :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skulldragon 1 Posted March 10, 2013 This may be of use to people: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgamegpu.ru%2Faction-%2F-fps-%2F-tps%2Farma-iii-alpha-test-gpu.html&act=url (sorry if its already been posted). Admittedly, they don't seem to have Ivy Bridge CPUs on the CPU section, but I'd guess they'd be about 10% faster than their Sandy Bridge equivalents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted March 10, 2013 This may be of use to people: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgamegpu.ru%2Faction-%2F-fps-%2F-tps%2Farma-iii-alpha-test-gpu.html&act=url (sorry if its already been posted). Admittedly, they don't seem to have Ivy Bridge CPUs on the CPU section, but I'd guess they'd be about 10% faster than their Sandy Bridge equivalents. Cool link, it's a 2-page review in Russian, first page contains history & description of the engine, second one has the benchmarks & testbed. For 1920x1080 res: http://gamegpu.ru/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/ARMA%20III%20Alpha/test/arma%203%201920%20h.jpg (157 kB) & 2560x1600 - http://gamegpu.ru/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/ARMA%20III%20Alpha/test/arma%203%202560%20h.jpg (154 kB) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted March 10, 2013 Antec P280, ATX, Zwart Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 720WATT Intel Core i5-3570K, 3.40GHz, 6MB, S1155 Cooler Master Hyper 412S (CPU cooler) Asus P8Z77-V LE PLUS,s1155 Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) Asus GTX 660 DCII TOP, 2GB OCZ Vertex 4 128GB Western Digital Caviar Black, 1TB I don't plan to overclock anything until later depending on how the game runs on default system settings but I've read that should I want to the 3570K is good for overclocking. Multithreading doesn't seem to be implemented (well?) so I am not convinced that spending almost a €100 more on a 3770K is worth it. There aren't any bottlenecks are there? I don't care about maxing out all settings except for view distance and am not a fan of post processing nor max AA and AF settings so should I be able to play ArmA3 on high settings with a 1920X1080 res. with these specs? Also I'm not sure about Windows 7 or 8 ... 8 seems to have some downsides like the Metro interface, but it is possible to go to desktop so from there it should be the same as Windows 7 but with a longer end-of-life left? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stajnko 10 Posted March 10, 2013 Intel Core i5 3210M 2,5 GHz, 3 MB L3 Cache 2 cores, 4 threads Intel Turbo Boost 2 3,1 GHz4 GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GTX660M 2 GB GDDR5 1000 GB (5400 RPM) SATA it's a bit reduced laptop Lenovo IdeaPad Y580 (standardly with 8GB DDR3 and i7 I guess) sorry but your PhysX cpu vs. gpu talks pushed my question to ghost place Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shhkapuppy 1 Posted March 10, 2013 Anyone know what I can add to launch options that may increase performance? I think there was something like -Cpu=# I'm not sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted March 10, 2013 sorry but your PhysX cpu vs. gpu talks pushed my question to ghost place Should be VERY playable at 1366x768 with a mix of Standard/High settings. I'm running A3A on Standard preset w/ Asus S46C (i5-3317U, 4GB, GT 635M, Win 8). Altho, you may get HDD stutter while streaming in textures with that 5400 RPM drive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 10, 2013 Calculations would be made by the GPU and not the CPU, it then depends on the hardware itself if the game would run smoother or not...Yay! that's not true, there is no gpu accelerated physX in arma afaik, doesnt matter if you have nvidia or amd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gliptal 25 Posted March 10, 2013 that's not true, there is no gpu accelerated physX in arma afaik, doesnt matter if you have nvidia or amd.My mistake then...Yay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stajnko 10 Posted March 10, 2013 Should be VERY playable Great news then! Hopefully there won't be any problems with my game so I'll enjoy it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 10, 2013 Antec P280, ATX, ZwartCooler Master Silent Pro M2 720WATT Intel Core i5-3570K, 3.40GHz, 6MB, S1155 Cooler Master Hyper 412S (CPU cooler) Asus P8Z77-V LE PLUS,s1155 Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) Asus GTX 660 DCII TOP, 2GB OCZ Vertex 4 128GB Western Digital Caviar Black, 1TB I don't plan to overclock anything until later depending on how the game runs on default system settings but I've read that should I want to the 3570K is good for overclocking. Multithreading doesn't seem to be implemented (well?) so I am not convinced that spending almost a €100 more on a 3770K is worth it. There aren't any bottlenecks are there? I don't care about maxing out all settings except for view distance and am not a fan of post processing nor max AA and AF settings so should I be able to play ArmA3 on high settings with a 1920X1080 res. with these specs? Also I'm not sure about Windows 7 or 8 ... 8 seems to have some downsides like the Metro interface, but it is possible to go to desktop so from there it should be the same as Windows 7 but with a longer end-of-life left? Yeah, the 3570K is the cpu to get for arma (and nearly every other game). Should run well. Win7 / Win8, doesn't really matter, win8 might be cheaper, start faster, I'd go for 8 if you're buying windows, if you still have a retail of 7 just save the money and use that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntMan7 1 Posted March 10, 2013 OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601 Other OS Description Not Available OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name System Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard :confused: System Model HP Pavilion dv6 Notebook PC System Type x64-based PC Processor AMD A8-3500M APU with Radeon HD Graphics, 1500 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date Hewlett-Packard F.20, 7/13/2011 SMBIOS Version 2.7 Windows Directory C:\Windows System Directory C:\Windows\system32 Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1 Locale United States Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514" Time Zone Pacific Daylight Time Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 6.00 GB Total Physical Memory 5.48 GB Available Physical Memory 2.38 GB Total Virtual Memory 11.0 GB Available Virtual Memory 7.64 GB Page File Space 5.48 GB Page File C:\pagefile.sys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gliptal 25 Posted March 10, 2013 OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home PremiumVersion 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601 Other OS Description Not Available OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name System Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard :confused: System Model HP Pavilion dv6 Notebook PC System Type x64-based PC Processor AMD A8-3500M APU with Radeon HD Graphics, 1500 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date Hewlett-Packard F.20, 7/13/2011 SMBIOS Version 2.7 Windows Directory C:\Windows System Directory C:\Windows\system32 Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1 Locale United States Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514" Time Zone Pacific Daylight Time Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 6.00 GB Total Physical Memory 5.48 GB Available Physical Memory 2.38 GB Total Virtual Memory 11.0 GB Available Virtual Memory 7.64 GB Page File Space 5.48 GB Page File C:\pagefile.sys VGA is missing, and for what I'm seeing, it won't happen...Yay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntMan7 1 Posted March 10, 2013 damn i really wanted this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 10, 2013 You can try to run it with a free alpha lite invite next week. See if it sortof runs on very low settings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) VGA is missing, and for what I'm seeing, it won't happen... He has an APU which is CPU + GPU. I have an APU in my laptop. It's a 1,5Ghz budget laptop that runs ArmA2 at reasonable framerates with low settings. You (HuntMan7) have a 1,5Ghz with boost to 2,4 ... if it even runs at all it will be a struggle I think :( You could wait for the demo which will probably be released just before the game launches later in the year and see how it goes. @ Leon86: Thanks! Does anyone see any major flaws with the system I have in mind? Edited March 10, 2013 by JdB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Does anyone see any major flaws with the system I have in mind? You dont need a 700+ W psu for that kind of a system, I'd just get a good quality one. http://tweakers.net/categorie/664/voedingen/producten/ xfx pro 550 which is most popular there will be fine, could also spend a little more on an 80+ gold or platinum unit, they're all good quality, some of them come with a 7 year warranty. rest looks good, very similar to what I'd buy if I would be doing a build now. Edited March 11, 2013 by Leon86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shhkapuppy 1 Posted March 11, 2013 I can run it with lowest everything....stupid Intel HD Graphics 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 11, 2013 I'm pretty surprised it runs playably at all. Then again most of us are cpu bottlenecked even with only mediocre graphics cards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted March 11, 2013 You dont need a 700+ W psu for that kind of a system, I'd just get a good quality one. Thanks I'll look for a better one. I've been looking at PSUs all evening, especially the connectors and ratings. What a nightmare :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog85858585 1 Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) Can someone please answer! I have not gotten an answer for 2 posts. Will This computer run Arma 3 Decently. Processor: Intel® 3rd Generation Core™ i7-3630QM Processor Speed: 2.4GHz (with Turbo Boost up to 3.4GHz) Display: (1920 x 1080) Cache Memory:6MB on die Level 3 System Memory (RAM): 8GB Type of Memory (RAM): DDR3 Hard Drive Type:SATA (7200 rpm) Computer Hard Drive Size:750GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 675M graphics Edited March 11, 2013 by Devildog85858585 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gliptal 25 Posted March 11, 2013 Can someone please answer! I have not gotten an answer for 2 posts. Will This computer run Arma 3 Decently. Processor: Intel® 3rd Generation Core™ i7-3630QM Processor Speed: 2.4GHz (with Turbo Boost up to 3.4GHz) Display: (1920 x 1080) Cache Memory:6MB on die Level 3 System Memory (RAM): 8GB Type of Memory (RAM): DDR3 Hard Drive Type:SATA (7200 rpm) Computer Hard Drive Size:750GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 675M graphics What's your VGA?Yay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 11, 2013 Thanks I'll look for a better one. I've been looking at PSUs all evening, especially the connectors and ratings. What a nightmare :( dutch, right? http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1480676/last ---------- Post added at 01:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:37 AM ---------- What's your VGA?Yay! NVIDIA GeForce GT 675M graphics right there in the specs. should be good enough, cpu should be ok as well, wont perform as well as a desktop one of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gliptal 25 Posted March 11, 2013 You probably edited your post as I was sending mine... Anyways, an i7 should be more than enough to run the game decently... Yay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites