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I really hate modern feminism in the highly developed countries

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I like to believe, that this post can go under the "science" category. :p

Hey guys,

a story from the USA: Dude get's banned off campus because a girl said he looked similiar to the man who raped her a few weeks before. Without asking HIM anything.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/02/19/male-student-banned-from-campus-because

a story out of my life in Germany: a few years ago I got kicked off an internship at a "replacement family" facility, where they put kids that are taken away from drug addict, alcoholic, psychotic parents. Another intern, a girl, asked me to do something in a not-very-nice tone so I just calmly told her: "Nope, not gonna happen with that tone." She got loud, argued that I think I can do what I want because I am a man and went out of the room. Crazy bitch. Anyway, 2 weeks later I was kicked off and the people reponsible said my actions were a "verbal sexual assault" in which I stubbornly wanted to keep my male dominance. Jesus, the fucked up minds of these people. Anyway, I was off the job because females are more often than not considered "weaker" and believed faster, than men.

A woman cuts off her husbands penis - it's considered funny?

I am pissed at modern feminism. The world in the highly developed countries (germany, USA etc.) is already pretty equal and women have even more possibilities than men in some cases (in Germany some companies get a prestige bonus, when a certan percentage of their employees are women), but even Obama said that for the EXACT SAME WORK women earn 77cent on a dollar a man earns, which is utter bullshit.

Anyway, I just posted this, because I am re-watching a great documentary:

And some wage gap myth:

Modern feminism is not about equality. It's about insecure women desperately grapsing for attention in any way possible. And since the majority of the population is pretty stupid, feminism is popular. (Yeah! Equality! Lets go defend the weak! OMG BAD MEN!!!)

Oh man, that's a long post. :butbut:

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Erhmmm, didn't you just get back from BI HQ -shouldn't you be in a glowing mood???

Not saying there arent troubling double standards as goes with all inequalities but this seems pretty strange for a military video games forums..

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One wonders what would happen when those feminists learn that Arma 3 has no women in it.

As for the banning of that college kid, ridiculous. I wonder what she would've done if the guy that raped her looked like her father.

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I though this girl at work was annoying once. She spoke in a mean tone and all that and bossed me around.

I found out later its because she liked me so I took her on a date, then another etc etc and we ended up being gf/bf.

There was another women at work who hated me for no reason. Used to kick me outta work early, call me shit. She was one of those anti men lesbians that look like a truck driver. So before my day off I stuck a whole bunch of spoons on the knife rake with a note saying "you mad?" and stuck the knifes in the spoon drawer. She cracked the shits at the boss and had a huge argument. Then she got sacked for verbally insulting the boss :p

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what can i say - overdose of political corectness and anti-conservativism sometimes goes too far,

such examples like first post i know from my life as well

some things which were compliment decade ago, now can be reason to sue someone,

the same goes even to forums, i know personally forum on which woman said that every not handsome and short guy should be gas-chambered and murdered cause only tall and handsome guys have right to live, when one of forum posters found that she is simply fat, she sued him and almost won for "assault" and "mobbing" and "staliking",

noone looked that she said that not-handsome guys should be gas-chambered, but because someone said she is fat,

the same shit is with "violence"

women prefere bad boys , who drink, who are criminals, than they marry or simply get pregnant, than from MY taxes i have to pay alimony found (cause her beloved bad-boy is in prison or simply unemployed and not pay alimony) for woman that would never date me cause i do not drink alcohol and i am not party-dancer,

i have grown in Polish "brooklyn" area, full of gangs, hooligans etc.

and the only lonely guy was always me or my friend , cause we never get drunk, we never took drugs, we were studying hard on university while others were only dancing or being at gym (now they are unemployed and i work in IT)

they are called victims cause guy who beat her, was chosen by her,

while 100 years ago it was father of family who was deciding if man is responsible to be husband for his daughter, and i have to pay for it from my taxes, i believe people should be responsible for their life and consequences, if you drunk and party and call education "for suckers" - you have poverty in consequence,

instead of this we have people who say "it is better to drink and live from social than work hard like suckers",

the older i am , the more conservative i am, the less i understand and accept "western" values, that come with politicall correctness, the richer i am the more i look at every penny from my taxes

feminism is now new form of nazism, some crazy feminists in my country say that because they have vagina they should get job and salary of other person who is engineer with MSc.

they can call you ugly and it is okay, when you say they are fat they can sue you

things that were holy for our grandfathers are nowadays "odd"

feminists in my country proposed "parytety" - law that say that you must hire the same number of male and female and pay the same money

joke is that this law won't say about skills, education, qualification

tits = MSc ?

whats the problem to go and graduate IT on technical university ? all you need is brain

if you have brain, you are educated in good area - you earn money

if you interest in party, dancing, celebrities - you can clean streets

in EU education is free - anyone can graduate technical university if his IQ allows, than earn money,

not demanding equal money saying about "patriarchate violence"

you got skills - you can earn more,

only problem is that when i was studying on technical university (late 90s-early 00s) we had 3 girls on 200 men on my faculty

in the same time on "literature", "etnography", "history of music" faculty there were 97 girls and 13 boys ,

than literature MoA graduate wants the same money as MSc in industry ? ;) lol

the topic you started is just small part - of big problem called "politicall correctness",

feminism is just small part of it

women are equal, they have equal chances , it is up to them if they prefere to study hard on technical university or they prefere to dance with local hooligan/lad

they are free to choose

and freedom of choice should always come with consequences of bad choice

a lot of those poor moaning girls i know from my neigborhood simply prefered to party and be pregnant with "someone whom she met hour ago" now they cry they do not have money, while i spent 2 weeks ion trip to Italy with Canon 7D in hand (which in my country is luxury cause people buy 200-300 EU cameras and only dream about holidays in Italy)

i heard (when i was young, student) very often words "you are boring sucker" from them "go party instead of this stupid science"

now they cry they cannot pay bill for rent while i have goretex jacket and they are jealous when i say to them that my mountain boots costed 200 EU cause they bought shoes for 30 EU

it is simply consequence of calling others suckers

so megagoth1702 study hard, get super skills, earn money, f** them cause you live only once , use them when you need , than live for yourself , you have only one life

megagoth1702 i do not know how old are you, but i have only 1 advice - study hard, study things that will give you money in future, focus on it , succes will not be easy, but when it comes, others can suck your...

life is not easy man, life is hard and very very painful

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A problem I see is that many companies will hire a woman if her skills are equal, or even lower than that of a male, simply because of some quota.

What is quite funny is that feminists will demand everybody to be treated equally, But I´ve yet to see one of those hold a door open for me or buy me a drink (of course they don´t mind if I do that) :rolleyes:

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What is quite funny is that feminists will demand everybody to be treated equally, But I´ve yet to see one of those hold a door open for me or buy me a drink (of course they don´t mind if I do that) :rolleyes:

They're just like any other extremist: we're viewed as equals as long as we agree with them but as soon as a person's view deviates they're viewed as 'less' and anything goes to 'discredit' or worse, stop them.

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most of polical and "social" acitivists are people without education that allow to get good job otherwise - remember about it , they shout to get big money without skills

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Academic feminism is what's usually taking the forefront in these discussions, and it's a bankrupt Ideology. It ignores problems of race, class while focusing on often mushy and scientifically unsound Ideas about gender. I am completely for the inclusion of female characters in Arma 3 because females make up 50 % of the human species. But generally, academic, middle class, white people feminism is a kind of misandry.

For example, there are feminists who claim that males cannot be victims of sexual assault or spousal abuse in relationships. Which is wrong. They also deny that such a thing as a sexual drive exists and that any kind of sexual objectification (or even an innocent glance) is actual violence. But people objectify each other all the time, in all societies, no matter their age or their gender.

These people also deny that transgendered people should be considered whatever gender they perceive themselves as because it is "gender appropriation". Similarily, sexuality in general is viewed in extremely strict, conservative contexts. In this worldview, all men are bad, all the time, while all women are above scrutiny. Good example is the recent gamergate debacle which was completely hijacked by "feminist" ideologues, while completely ignoring the original issue that gamergate was about (ie, bad press practices).

I used to be very much in tune with these people, but the more I hop around on tumblr, the more I read about human psychology and about the human condition, the more I feel like these people are as out of touch with reality as free market libertarians, NWO believers and oldschool communists.

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Cool stories guys. I am glad you people know this shit. :)

Erhmmm, didn't you just get back from BI HQ -shouldn't you be in a glowing mood???

Not saying there arent troubling double standards as goes with all inequalities but this seems pretty strange for a military video games forums..

Hahaha, don't worry, I am fine. :) I am passionate about many things. And today I stumbled upon a video on this topic and had the bohemia forums open in the background. I got curious about what "military game forum" people think about this topic.

I though this girl at work was annoying once. She spoke in a mean tone and all that and bossed me around.

I found out later its because she liked me so I took her on a date, then another etc etc and we ended up being gf/bf.

There was another women at work who hated me for no reason. Used to kick me outta work early, call me shit. She was one of those anti men lesbians that look like a truck driver. So before my day off I stuck a whole bunch of spoons on the knife rake with a note saying "you mad?" and stuck the knifes in the spoon drawer. She cracked the shits at the boss and had a huge argument. Then she got sacked for verbally insulting the boss :p

Cool story bro, hahaha. :D Nice!

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so megagoth1702 study hard, get super skills, earn money, f** them cause you live only once , use them when you need , than live for yourself , you have only one life

megagoth1702 i do not know how old are you, but i have only 1 advice - study hard, study things that will give you money in future, focus on it , succes will not be easy, but when it comes, others can suck your...

life is not easy man, life is hard and very very painful

Hey man, thanks for the post and advice haha. :D I am 24, am happy with my girl and about to study so I'm cool.

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Well there are feminists who want equality, at least they want it in leading positions like management and so on. I have yet to see a feminist crying about lack of miners or flushers women quota. The problem is, the politicians seem to do what they want.

Then there are feminazis who just want to see all men dead because apparently men are the reason for their problems. They cause some rage on the interwebz once in a while, but no one really cares about them.

And there are attention seekers who jump on the men bashing train to get some attention. Pretty much the same as feminazis.

Dont know which ones are worse.

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I am pissed at modern feminism. The world is already pretty equal and women have even more possibilities than men in some cases (in Germany some companies get a prestige bonus, when a certan percentage of their employees are women), but even Obama said that for the EXACT SAME WORK women earn 77cent on a dollar a man earns, which is utter bullshit.

Not really. The World is clearly and obviously unequal against women, just go to most African, South American or Asian countries...

Said that, I'm against any "positive discrimination". Gender equality is simple: Men and women are different, it's a scientific fact, but they should be equal in rights.

For instance, why should firefighter tests for women be easier if in real life fire doesn't care about genders.

The funny fact is that we only use positive discrimination in favor of women, but even tho women are scientifically better at studying, men don't have easier exams.

The fair solution is easy, don't discriminate positively per gender but select the ones that have better skills for certain jobs.

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You should seriously watch this video. It´s hillarious and points out a few flaws with gender equality.

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gender equality.

That isn't gender equality though. As others have said, that is gender inequality. You're lowering standards for one person which is not equal treatment. I agree with him that if you can't do the job you shouldn't be able to do it (he did go about it in a bit of an asshole way though. Frankly he sounds somewhat sexist to me). However, if there is a woman who can do the same job just as well or better than a man could I am all for them being there. I don't fully get his whole fireman thing though. It just comes down to accuracy. If there is a woman on the team she is not a fireman because she is not a man so calling them firefighters is more accurate. If there was a group of women who fought fires they would be firewomen. A group of men would be firemen and a mixed group would be firefighters (or firepeople). At the same time I also view that as a bunch of people who just don't want to change their ways. If a woman firefighter doesn't want to be called a fireman, why would you call her that? Call her a firewoman. Is that really so difficult?

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Not really. The World is clearly and obviously unequal against women, just go to most African, South American or Asian countries...

Said that, I'm against any "positive discrimination". Gender equality is simple: Men and women are different, it's a scientific fact, but they should be equal in rights.

For instance, why should firefighter tests for women be easier if in real life fire doesn't care about genders.

The funny fact is that we only use positive discrimination in favor of women, but even tho women are scientifically better at studying, men don't have easier exams.

The fair solution is easy, don't discriminate positively per gender but select the ones that have better skills for certain jobs.

Whoops, I totally made a mistake there. You are right, my first post was not clear enough. Of course I am only bitching about the highly developed countries, first post edited. :) I also agree about the tests having the same difficulty for each gender. I was in the German army and girls had easier physical tests. I understand girls having easier sports tests in school but when it comes to a job the skills of men and women should be the same or at least very similiar.

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topic title clearly said about developed countries,

and in Polish police also women have easier tests

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For instance, why should firefighter tests for women be easier if in real life fire doesn't care about genders.

The funny fact is that we only use positive discrimination in favor of women, but even tho women are scientifically better at studying, men don't have easier exams.

topic title clearly said about developed countries,

and in Polish police also women have easier tests

Firstly, men and women are physiologically different and thus cannot be run through the same physical testing regime. Limb for limb, a woman is not as strong as a man, when both are of equal fitness and otherwise completely average. Psychologically, they are also slightly different but not enough to warrant differing tests. Psychological tests are also kind of mushy, and one has to consider than women in "men's jobs" often face increased scrutiny and generally higher stress levels that affect their performance.

The expectation of success or failure affects the results. An example is a test made in the US, afaik, where two equally rated groups of whites and blacks were run through a school type of test (college level, if I remember correctly, but that's not really important for the results.).

One set was given the test without having to declare their color of skin, in this set both groups fared equally well.

The second set had to declare color of skin in their tests. This immediately raises the notion that somehow, skin color is important to the test, why else would the testers put it in there? This group had a statistically marked difference between whites and blacks, blacks scoring worse. Not because they -were- worse, but because they felt they were normalized to being worse in their minds, simply by having to mention their skin color.

This also goes, secondly, towards the second point. You cannot have easier tests for men because of flawed perceptions, because the reasons for the differing results between men and women go -far- beyond plumbing and instead are also affected by class, race, gender roles as well as personal aspirations of the individual within their given surroundings.

Another thing that is important is that in our society, women can completely forego their classical role of childbearing and rearing in favor of excelling at whatever physical or intellectual profession they chose for themselves. We have the equipment, the knowledge and the time to adapt our bodies within very broad ranges, and there is -nil- reason why people should be excluded from any profession if they can meet an acceptable standard.

For example, the german KSK is allowing women to participate in their selection tests. Because of the extreme levels of performance demanded by the type of work the KSK does, women have to face exactly the same test as their male counterparts do. However, the KSK is not the police, where you can adapt your selection tests to sex specific average performance profiles for the sake of increasing your selection pool.

This can be intelligently done, and is necessary, because equality no matter what sex or gender a person is.

Misandry is a no go, though, and that is what academic, radical feminists are about. They are crazy woo, out of touch with the real world, but they unfortunately are extremely noisy and are well connected. Only things that help against them are self consciousness (Am I sure that they are the asshole and it's not me), humbleness, love for your fellow human being (provided they do not want to wreck you.) and consideration that even Idiots are allowed to make their position known. Everybody needs a hobby, unfortunately, radfems picked one that is ultimately detrimental to the discourse between women and men as well as class and race. Countering them with practicing sexism and misogyny makes one as bad as they are, though.

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What may stop using the weapon of those jackass feminists against themselves? I mean courts. Sue the craep out of them if necessary. Any positive discrimination or inadequate behaving? Get the lawsuit and shitstorm campaign in media.

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topic title clearly said about developed countries,

and in Polish police also women have easier tests

Physical ones, nope ?

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yes, physical, no pull-up, chin-up on exam, no other parts on exam,

when i was going to police 13 years ago differences were also such big, man had to pull-up (if it is correct in English) several times to go further, women didn't have to do it,

also throwing medical ball (heavy football ball) was other, i don't remember but in army probably it is similar,

moreover politically correct gov. wants even easier test for woman to "not discriminate them" - really no joke,

"woman federation" wrote letter to ministry of internal affairs to make tests for woman as easy as possible "to not discriminate weaker gender to get job" - really, and probably because of polit. cor. bs they will agree , no joke,

i know several policeman and noone wants to have woman as partner - cause you cannot rely, when there is problem all is on your head and after problem she says "but i am woman and i am not responsible for troubles"

and woman association write on and on and on claims to police headquaters that tests for woman should be much easier than now, cause police is good and stable job (state pays, no problems like in private company, retired after 15-20 years while rest of society has to work till 67, than you can be retired policeman or soldier at age of 39, which is high cost for tax payer, but ... it is other case)

so everyone wants to be policeman or solider - state gives you accomodation and you can retire 20 years before others, now even 27 years earlier (67 vs 39 if you go to police or army after highschool which is fucked up, but state needs dogs to bite protesters when finally riots and revolution will come)

of course they do not want to go to street, but to bureau,

than 39 and retired while others have to pay taxes and work till 67...

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another info to this topic, i do not know how it is your countries,

in my country law says you have only 6 months to make DNA test of child,

so you have only half year to check DNA of child of wife - after 7th month if you discover that she cheated you and child is not yours - you must pay alimony for this child and wife - really no joke, because you can reject fathership only in period of half year

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The thing about equality is that it's equal requirements... Not fit for the requirement? You dont get to do it. But that's too much to ask for to understand for some people...

Karen has some nice videos at times

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Something unbelievable happened to Tim Hunt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Hunt

Sir Richard Timothy "Tim" Hunt FRS, FMedSci (born 19 February 1943) is a British biochemist.[4] He was awarded the 2001 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine with Paul Nurse and Leland H. Hartwell for their discoveries of protein molecules that control the division (duplication) of cells.[5][6][7][8]

He made some jokes involving females at some conference. How dare he?! Feminist, led by Connie St. Louis, charged their hashtags and ruined his career:

Hunt said his comments were meant to be "ironic" and "jocular".[15][20] University College London announced the next day that Hunt had resigned from his position as Honorary Professor with the UCL Faculty of Life Sciences.[21] On the same day, he also resigned from the Royal Society's Biological Sciences Awards Committee.[22] His wife Mary Collins, UCL Professor of immunology, said she "was told by a senior [at UCL] that Tim had to resign immediately or be sacked".[15] Hunt said the European Research Council (ERC) had also forced him to resign.

Details are here: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3141158/A-flawed-accuser-Investigation-academic-hounded-Nobel-Prize-winning-scientist-job-reveals-troubling-questions-testimony.html

While reading Connie's heartbreaking story about how "women had enough" I realized that she and her minions don't even care about the (flawed) idea of feminism. Of all sexism occurrences, be it rap music or movies, they pick this! They're simply seeking easy waves of publicity on which they can surf. In other words, this is great example of pure attention whoring. The saddest thing is that in civilized world a bunch of 100% disposable and harmful (sub-)human beings have the power to sack a person from useful research from which we all would benefit. This is so ridiculous it's not even funny.

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it is political correctness that say that all human are equal

we should be equal in rights to education , in treating by law , by possibility to get job after education, BUT:

but we are not equal, one race has bigger average IQ, while other race has better sport skills and music skills, men are logical, women are illogical, etc. etc. etc.

we should be equal in reponsibility if we screw something too,

but feminists aim to situation in which they get something without skills and have no reposibility if they screw it,

first of all women hate such researches that scientists do , why?

because it show that woman is not equal man

feminists hate science, because feminism is new form of nazism - believe in superiority ,

for me very good example was that in my studies on my faculty (department of technical university) there were 300 students, 297 men, 3 women,

we graduated university of technology, women in that time studied: ethnography (history of fashion, music), ligustic studies (including useless languages that are not main business languages), psychology (probably to manipulate better),

when we get job and they were unemployed (cause who need in industry another "ethnograph" which knows about history of clothes worn in XV century, another women studied "manipulation in marketing", and they were arguing, crying, moaning that they do not have job,

if you ask her "do you know AutoCad" she will tell "i do not need stupid crap, i am educated in better things"

so when you say to her "you are not good for this job" she will start protesting and demanding to pay here as IT programmer and of course she just want to work only part time cause ...

etc.

so it is simply due to fact that political correctness in the west tries to eliminate any theory and any researches that can proove that one group is better than other group in something,

feminism is hipocrisy, i have read some researches (scientific, made by pshychologists) on dating websites, what was interesting:

majority of females were saying that look of guy is not most important but "it is most important if guy will be good husband, not drinking, honest, sincere , inteligent, skilled", and look is not important cause body is not most important thing because beauty passes with time but brain and heart remains,

but...

but...

but result of studies shown that only criteria that women had - were : if man is very tall, if man is handsome and body is fit,

when women were asked why they say that "they look for inteligent person and educated person" but they choose "taller than 6 feet" women (many many) answered that "iq has nothing to being inteligent, graduation of univeristy is just worthles piece of paper"

women asked by women were answering different than asked by man (psychological research),

when women where asked WHY they refused date they were looking for explanation "becuse this guy is idiot and not honest" - while they just seen PHOTO of guy, but they were telling he has low IQ and he is not honest man,

to man they were trying to hide reason they not dated someone, to female they were saying "but look at his ugly face" and of course next day they were "looking for honest , inteligent, not drinking, caring, sincere and educated male, because it is most important what is in your heart, not in your look, cause body is not most important"... which meant THEIR body is not most important cause they can be flat (no boobs) or fat but you must be looking like super model,

this is what feminims made - twisted all traditional values of our culture with hypocrisy,

some women i met in life also were saying that "they can read IQ from somebodys look and IQ test has nothing to do with intleligence" and of course they believe that any psychological science is useless,

because they "like inteligent men" like famous actors or sportsmen , when male was short, ugly , fat, despite he could have IQ 140, for women he was "idiot and thats why she didn't date him",

thats why Islam is now such strong and has many converts in the west - because it brings traditional values in societies where political correctness capsized all what our grandfathers known for centuries,

western political correcness is bringing our civilisation to end because we capsized so much tradition, than our own people look for tradition in other civilisations, because nature goes to equilibrium and every pendulum show that if it is pushed too much to left side - it returns to right side, because we started to go into extreme left (Swedish example when White males were rejected to apply for job cause they are White and they are males, not looking if they have skills to do that job),

feminists hate science cause such "psychological research on dating websites" shown that women say A but they think B , science is dangerous cause it shows that feminists are just bunch of frustrated femi-nazis who look for superiority and money without need to work or educate, and if case if they get pregnant on party or in club - than you should pay high taxes to fund her benefits,

in my country some feminists call themselves "profesor" but ... they just have Master Degree , it is really weird when they use title "profesor" among themselves in direction of women who just have graduated Master thesis,

i agree that this is not funny cause one day we may wake up in world in which male will have to graduate university to get MSc but woman will get this title without going to primary school - and this is what feminists aim,

science should be free of any barriers, even if result of researches show things that some groups may find offensive, because we are not equal, we just should have equal chances to study (i am for free of charge education) and just it depends if we work hard or not for succes in life and good salary,

if someone prefers dancing at parties instead of hard education - than he/she should not moan and demand salary which has person who studied hard, and this simply rule feminists try to destroy,

i know personally doctor (PhD) of medicine, who says that women should not have rights, maybe it is hardcore, but this person has PhD, works in medicine for 2 decades,

i do not know if it is true - but he told the that women vote in election on politician who is taller and handsome, not on program of political party,

i do not know such results nor researches - i am not specialist in it, but it was told by person who has PhD in medicine

from my private observation among women in my family or job - lots of them indeed votes for party X, but they prefere program of party Y,

when asked why she doesn't vote party Y , if she prefers their program - she answers "lider of this party is ugly short bastard" (Polish leader of right wing opposition has over 5 feet, while previous leader of mainstream was circa 6 feet)

now right wing president won in elections, but he is taller and more handsome than current president and in young days he was very handsome,

so question is - does voters (women) vote for PROGRAM of party, or on face, size, body of politician who rule us ?

there are also scientific proofs that women as judge gives bigger sentence to not handsome criminal but gives small sentence to criminal who is handsome even if he commited much worse crime than previous one, because sexual temptation is blinding brain, probably the same could work if male judge would be sentencing woman criminal, but women are less present in violence so less women meet policemen,

maybe we should have law that says that heterosexual male can judge male, heterosexual women can judge women cases, i do not know, but sexual temptation when judging people can play role (to get job too)

and very big problem with treating people equally is if we find those people sexually atractive or not,

Edited by vilas

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