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Hey, in case you didn't notice my answer in our CUP forum on how to set it up, here is the LINK

 

And btw, thank you all for your kind words!

 

Thanks again but I am very new to modding servers so I really don't know where to find that stuff at. 

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Directed at Alwarren because I think its his site -

 

Will you be keeping this up to date? http://friedenhq.org/tmp/CUP_Class%20List/classlist.html

 

Or will you at least keep it even though its outdated? I am aware that the CUP wiki has a class list too...however the reason why I prefer the way you did it here is because everything is on a single page which allows for very rapid classname searching (by using only ctrl+f)

whereas on the wiki it's sorted by page on weapon category which causes it to take more time & effort to find classnames, having to go back and forth through weapon types (still pretty fast though).

 

Just wondering.

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Or will you at least keep it even though its outdated? I am aware that the CUP wiki has a class list too...however the reason why I prefer the way you did it here is because everything is on a single page which allows for very rapid classname searching (by using only ctrl+f)

whereas on the wiki it's sorted by page on weapon category which causes it to take more time & effort to find classnames, having to go back and forth through weapon types (still pretty fast though).

 

The page will probably stay, but might not be up-to-date anymore.

 

I guess at one point we'll provide either a PDF file with all the classnames, or a simple text file.

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Hi,
 
I made a list of magazines mass values that I think need to be adjusted compared to vanilla Arma 3 equipment. I.E. CUP 556 Stanag takes more space in inventory then vanilla Stanag magazine.

You may find this list useful at least to some extent. I listed all magazines AFAIK, some are fine though IMO. I also listed most of vanilla values (except for UGL ammo types that are all the same) for quick comparison.

 

Magazine                                                Mass (CUP >> Vanilla like)
CUP_8Rnd_9x18_Makarov_M                                 6 >> 4
CUP_8Rnd_9x18_MakarovSD_M                               6 >> 4
CUP_10Rnd_9x19_Compact                                  8 >> 4
CUP_15Rnd_9x19_M9                                       10 >> 6
CUP_17Rnd_9x19_glock17                                  8 >> 6
CUP_18Rnd_9x19_Phantom                                  8 >> 6
CUP_6Rnd_45ACP_M                                        6 >> 4
CUP_7Rnd_45ACP_1911                                     8 >> 6
CUP_10Rnd_B_765x17_Ball_M                               8 >> 6
CUP_20Rnd_B_765x17_Ball_M                               8 >> 8
CUP_30Rnd_9x19_EVO                                      10 >> 10
CUP_30Rnd_9x19_MP5                                      10 >> 10
CUP_30Rnd_9x19_UZI                                      10 >> 10
CUP_10Rnd_9x39_SP5_VSS_M                                6 >> 6
CUP_20Rnd_9x39_SP5_VSS_M                                10 >> 10
CUP_64Rnd_9x19_Bizon_M                                  24 >> 16
CUP_64Rnd_Green_Tracer_9x19_Bizon_M                     24 >> 16
CUP_64Rnd_Yellow_Tracer_9x19_Bizon_M                    24 >> 16
CUP_64Rnd_Red_Tracer_9x19_Bizon_M                       4 >> 16
CUP_64Rnd_White_Tracer_9x19_Bizon_M                     24 >> 16
CUP_20Rnd_762x51_FNFAL_M                                14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_762x51_B_SCAR                                 14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_Red_Tracer_762x51_SCAR                    14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_Yellow_Tracer_762x51_SCAR                 14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_Green_Tracer_762x51_SCAR                  14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_White_Tracer_762x51_SCAR                  14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_762x51_CZ805B                                 12 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_Red_Tracer_762x51_CZ805B                  12 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_Yellow_Tracer_762x51_CZ805B               12 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_Green_Tracer_762x51_CZ805B                12 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_White_Tracer_762x51_CZ805B                12 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_762x51_DMR                                    14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_Red_Tracer_762x51_DMR                     14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_Yellow_Tracer_762x51_DMR                  14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_Green_Tracer_762x51_DMR                   14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_White_Tracer_762x51_DMR                   14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_762x51_B_M110                                 14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_Red_Tracer_762x51_M110                    14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_Yellow_Tracer_762x51_M110                 14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_Green_Tracer_762x51_M110                  14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_TE1_White_Tracer_762x51_M110                  14 >> 12
CUP_20Rnd_556x45_Stanag                                 6 >> 6
CUP_30Rnd_556x45_Stanag                                 11 >> 8
CUP_30Rnd_556x45_G36                                    11 >> 8
CUP_30Rnd_TE1_Red_Tracer_556x45_G36                     11 >> 8
CUP_30Rnd_TE1_Yellow_Tracer_556x45_G36                  11 >> 8
CUP_30Rnd_TE1_Green_Tracer_556x45_G36                   11 >> 8
CUP_30Rnd_545x39_AK_M                                   12 >> 8
CUP_30Rnd_TE1_Green_Tracer_545x39_AK_M                  12 >> 8
CUP_30Rnd_TE1_Yellow_Tracer_545x39_AK_M                 12 >> 8
CUP_30Rnd_TE1_Red_Tracer_545x39_AK_M                    12 >> 8
CUP_30Rnd_TE1_White_Tracer_545x39_AK_M                  12 >> 8
CUP_30Rnd_762x39_AK47_M                                 19 >> 14
CUP_30Rnd_Sa58_M                                        13 >> 14
CUP_30Rnd_Sa58_M_TracerG                                13 >> 14
CUP_30Rnd_Sa58_M_TracerR                                13 >> 14
CUP_30Rnd_Sa58_M_TracerY                                13 >> 14
CUP_45Rnd_TE4_LRT4_Green_Tracer_545x39_RPK_M            22 >> 16
CUP_75Rnd_TE4_LRT4_Green_Tracer_545x39_RPK_M            36 >> 18
CUP_8Rnd_B_Beneli_74Pellets                             6 >> 8
CUP_8Rnd_B_Beneli_74Slug                                6 >> 8
CUP_8Rnd_B_Saiga12_74Pellets_M                          6 >> 8
CUP_8Rnd_B_Saiga12_74Slug_M                             6 >> 8
CUP_20Rnd_B_AA12_74Slug                                 26 >> 20
CUP_20Rnd_B_AA12_Pellets                                26 >> 20
CUP_20Rnd_B_AA12_HE                                     30 >> 24
CUP_50Rnd_UK59_762x54R_Tracer                           35 >> 20
CUP_100Rnd_556x45_BetaCMag                              2/3 * 46 >> 20
CUP_100Rnd_TE1_Red_Tracer_556x45_BetaCMag               2/3 * 46 >> 20
CUP_100Rnd_TE1_Yellow_Tracer_556x45_BetaCMag            2/3 * 46 >> 20
CUP_100Rnd_TE1_Green_Tracer_556x45_BetaCMag             2/3 * 46 >> 20
CUP_100Rnd_TE4_Red_Tracer_556x45_M249                   2/3 * 38 >> 20
CUP_100Rnd_TE4_Yellow_Tracer_556x45_M249                2/3 * 38 >> 20
CUP_100Rnd_TE4_Green_Tracer_556x45_M249                 2/3 * 38 >> 20
CUP_200Rnd_TE1_Red_Tracer_556x45_M249                   2/3 * 68 >> 40
CUP_200Rnd_TE4_Red_Tracer_556x45_M249                   2/3 * 68 >> 40
CUP_200Rnd_TE4_Yellow_Tracer_556x45_M249                2/3 * 68 >> 40
CUP_200Rnd_TE4_Green_Tracer_556x45_M249                 2/3 * 68 >> 40
CUP_200Rnd_TE4_Red_Tracer_556x45_L110A1                 2/3 * 25 >> 40
CUP_200Rnd_TE4_Yellow_Tracer_556x45_L110A1              2/3 * 25 >> 40
CUP_200Rnd_TE4_Green_Tracer_556x45_L110A1               2/3 * 25 >> 40
CUP_100Rnd_TE4_LRT4_762x54_PK_Tracer_Green_M            2/3 * 68 >> 40
CUP_100Rnd_TE4_LRT4_Red_Tracer_762x51_Belt_M            2/3 * 66 >> 40
CUP_100Rnd_TE4_LRT4_White_Tracer_762x51_Belt_M          2/3 * 66 >> 40
CUP_200Rnd_TE4_LRT4_Red_Tracer_762x51_Belt_M            2/3 * 68 >> 60
CUP_200Rnd_TE4_LRT4_White_Tracer_762x51_Belt_M          2/3 * 68 >> 60
CUP_5Rnd_762x51_M24                                     8 >> 8
CUP_5x_22_LR_17_HMR_M                                   7 >> 8
CUP_5Rnd_86x70_L115A1                                   9 >> 10
CUP_10x_303_M                                           10 >> 10
CUP_10Rnd_762x51_CZ750                                  14 >> 8
CUP_10Rnd_762x51_CZ750_Tracer                           14 >> 8
CUP_10Rnd_762x54_SVD_M                                  6 >> 8
CUP_5Rnd_127x108_KSVK_M                                 20 >> 14
CUP_5Rnd_127x99_as50_M                                  12 >> 14
CUP_10Rnd_127x99_M107                                   15 >> 16
CUP_1Rnd_HE_GP25_M                                      6 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_HEDP_M203                                      4 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_SMOKE_GP25_M                                   6 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_SmokeGreen_GP25_M                              6 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_SmokeRed_GP25_M                                6 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_SmokeYellow_GP25_M                             6 >> 4
CUP_FlareWhite_GP25_M                                   6 >> 4
CUP_FlareGreen_GP25_M                                   6 >> 4
CUP_FlareYellow_GP25_M                                  6 >> 4
CUP_FlareRed_GP25_M                                     6 >> 4
CUP_IlumFlareGreen_GP25_M                               6 >> 4
CUP_IlumFlareRed_GP25_M                                 6 >> 4
CUP_IlumFlareWhite_GP25_M                               6 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_HE_M203                                        4 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_Smoke_M203                                     4 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_SmokeGreen_M203                                4 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_SmokeRed_M203                                  4 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_SmokeYellow_M203                               4 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_StarCluster_Green_M203                         4 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_StarCluster_Red_M203                           4 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_StarCluster_White_M203                         4 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_StarFlare_Green_M203                           4 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_StarFlare_Red_M203                             4 >> 4
CUP_1Rnd_StarFlare_White_M203                           4 >> 4
CUP_FlareWhite_M203                                     4 >> 4
CUP_FlareRed_M203                                       4 >> 4
CUP_FlareYellow_M203                                    4 >> 4
CUP_FlareGreen_M203                                     4 >> 4
CUP_6Rnd_HE_M203                                        40 >> 24
CUP_6Rnd_FlareRed_M203                                  40 >> 24
CUP_6Rnd_FlareYellow_M203                               40 >> 24
CUP_6Rnd_FlareGreen_M203                                40 >> 24
CUP_6Rnd_FlareWhite_M203                                40 >> 24
CUP_6Rnd_Smoke_M203                                     40 >> 24
CUP_6Rnd_SmokeRed_M203                                  40 >> 24
CUP_6Rnd_SmokeYellow_M203                               40 >> 24
CUP_6Rnd_SmokeGreen_M203                                40 >> 24
CUP_HandGrenade_M67                                     10 >> 10
CUP_HandGrenade_L109A1_HE                               10 >> 10
CUP_HandGrenade_L109A2_HE                               10 >> 10
CUP_HandGrenade_RGD5                                    10 >> 10
CUP_HandGrenade_RGO                                     10 >> 10
CUP_RPG18_M                                             50 >> 40
CUP_OG7_M                                               43 >> 40
CUP_OG9_HE_M                                            60 >> 60
CUP_PG7V_M                                              48 >> 40
CUP_PG7VL_M                                             57 >> 60
CUP_PG7VR_M                                             98 >> 80
CUP_PG9_AT_M                                            100 >> 100
CUP_AT13_M                                              2/3 * 263 >> 100
CUP_Dragon_EP1_M                                        2/3 * 301 >> 100
CUP_M136_M                                              40 >> 40
CUP_MAAWS_HEAT_M                                        68 >> 40
CUP_MAAWS_HEDP_M                                        72 >> 60
CUP_SMAW_Spotting                                       10 >> 10
CUP_SMAW_HEAA_M                                         2/3 * 138 >> 60
CUP_SMAW_HEDP_M                                         2/3 * 128 >> 40
CUP_NLAW_M                                              2/3 * 153 >> 80
CUP_Javelin_M                                           2/3 * 199 >> 100
CUP_Strela_2_M                                          2/3 * 219 >> 100
CUP_Igla_M                                              2/3 * 219 >> 100
CUP_Stinger_M                                           2/3 * 219 >> 100
CUP_PipeBomb_M                                          43 >> 40
CUP_TimeBomb_M                                          43 >> 40
CUP_Mine_M                                              2/3 * 160 >> 80
CUP_MineE_M                                             2/3 * 160 >> 80
CUP_IED_V1_M                                            2/3 * 160 >> 40
CUP_IED_V2_M                                            2/3 * 160 >> 40
CUP_IED_V3_M                                            2/3 * 160 >> 40
CUP_IED_V4_M                                            2/3 * 160 >> 40

 

Magazine                                                Mass
16Rnd_9x21_Mag                                          6
6Rnd_45ACP_Cylinder                                     4
9Rnd_45ACP_Mag                                          6
11Rnd_45ACP_Mag                                         7
30Rnd_9x21_Mag                                          10
30Rnd_45ACP_Mag_SMG_01                                  10
20Rnd_556x45_UW_mag                                     6
20Rnd_762x51_Mag                                        12
30Rnd_556x45_Stanag                                     8
30Rnd_65x39_caseless_green                              10
30Rnd_65x39_caseless_mag                                10
100Rnd_65x39_caseless_mag                               20
200Rnd_65x39_cased_Box                                  40
150Rnd_762x51_Box                                       40
150Rnd_762x54_Box                                       40
150Rnd_93x64_Mag                                        60
10Rnd_762x51_Mag                                        8
10Rnd_762x54_Mag                                        8
10Rnd_338_Mag                                           14
10Rnd_93x64_DMR_05_Mag                                  16
10Rnd_127x54_Mag                                        12
5Rnd_127x108_APDS_Mag                                   14
5Rnd_127x108_Mag                                        14
7Rnd_408_Mag                                            12
Laserbatteries                                          6
Chemlight_blue                                          2
SmokeShell                                              4
FlareGreen_F                                            4
HandGrenade                                             10
MiniGrenade                                             6
B_IR_Grenade                                            8
1Rnd_HE_Grenade_shell                                   4
3Rnd_HE_Grenade_shell                                   12
NLAW_F                                                  80
RPG32_F                                                 60
RPG32_HE_F                                              40
Titan_AA                                                100
Titan_AP                                                60
Titan_AT                                                100
ClaymoreDirectionalMine_Remote_Mag                      20
DemoCharge_Remote_Mag                                   20
APERSBoundingMine_Range_Mag                             20
APERSMine_Range_Mag                                     20
APERSTripMine_Wire_Mag                                  20
ATMine_Range_Mag                                        80
SatchelCharge_Remote_Mag                                80
SLAMDirectionalMine_Wire_Mag                            20
IEDLandBig_Remote_Mag                                   80
IEDLandSmall_Remote_Mag                                 40

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Hi,

 

I made a list of magazines mass values that I think need to be adjusted compared to vanilla Arma 3 equipment. I.E. CUP 556 Stanag takes more space in inventory then vanilla Stanag magazine.

You may find this list useful at least to some extent. I listed all magazines AFAIK, some are fine though IMO. I also listed most of vanilla values (except for UGL ammo types that are all the same) for quick comparison.

 

The problem with these values is that there are two very distinctive quantities (mass and volume) rolled into a single number. There's never going to be anything "right" or "wrong". For example, vanilla AT mines weight (according to one of the weight tracking addons) around 2 kg, while the real AT mines weight 16. That is actually more than fits the Carryall, because in reality you cannot compare volume and mass - a 1 kg lead cube will weight as much as a 1 kg styrofoam, but the sizes will be quite different.

 

Still, how do you measure it? IMO most of the values for vanilla content are too low. You notice that with rockets/missiles, most specialist roles have so many of them that they don't even need an ammo bearer since they can carry four already.

 

Having said this, the weights will probably be fluent over time. When encoding the USMC and FR factions, I noticed I had to adjust some of them down to make them fit the uniforms. Thank you for your list, I'll review the values and see what I can adjust. I really REALLY wish there had been two values (mass and volume) which would make this a much more realistic exercise.

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Hi,

 

I made a list of magazines mass values that I think need to be adjusted compared to vanilla Arma 3 equipment. I.E. CUP 556 Stanag takes more space in inventory then vanilla Stanag magazine.

You may find this list useful at least to some extent. I listed all magazines AFAIK, some are fine though IMO. I also listed most of vanilla values (except for UGL ammo types that are all the same) for quick comparison.

 

Nice comparison data, I've logged this for you here as it was a ticket I had on the old feedback tracker: http://bugs.cup-arma3.org/view.php?id=20

 

Edit: Alwarren you're right about mass / volume needing to be separate, it's a bit of a mess...

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Congratulations on your most recent bigger release guys!

 

Will be looking into hit this evening. :) Keep it coming mates! This is the real deal for Arma 3 modding. :D

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Have the guides to porting uniforms from A2 to A3 been posted yet? 

I would like to try and contribute.

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Sorry if was already reported, but the link on armaholic of the units, is "wrong" it gives me the page of the weapons pack. Sorry if was already reported. Byee and congrats for your work. (little question: the H-53 in the unit pack photo, where it come from?) cheers! :)

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Have the guides to porting uniforms from A2 to A3 been posted yet? 

I would like to try and contribute.

 

Well porting the uniform itself is "easy", there's just a handful of proxies to copypaste from the character template and minor config work, the problem is there is remodeling required depending on which uniform you work on.

As you probably know most A2 uniforms had things like vests and holsters embedded in a single model along with helmets and uniforms, and those have to be split.

If you really want to give it a try contact me on skype, there should be the address in my profile.

 

Sorry if was already reported, but the link on armaholic of the units, is "wrong" it gives me the page of the weapons pack. Sorry if was already reported. Byee and congrats for your work. (little question: the H-53 in the unit pack photo, where it come from?) cheers! :)

The CH-53 comes from the CUP vehicle pack that has yet to be released.

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Are the new sounds gonna be final? I'm kind of disappointed in them, in my opinion they're really only improving by not being too loud, but other than that I would've preferred the old sounds, just a bit quieter. The new sounds are so deep that they sound flat, really no kick at all.

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Congrats on the release! A2 content with A3 engine is the thing – thank you! :)

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Well porting the uniform itself is "easy", there's just a handful of proxies to copypaste from the character template and minor config work, the problem is there is remodeling required depending on which uniform you work on.

As you probably know most A2 uniforms had things like vests and holsters embedded in a single model along with helmets and uniforms, and those have to be split.

If you really want to give it a try contact me on skype, there should be the address in my profile.

 

The CH-53 comes from the CUP vehicle pack that has yet to be released.

 

Oh ok, thanks for info.

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Are the new sounds gonna be final? I'm kind of disappointed in them, in my opinion they're really only improving by not being too loud, but other than that I would've preferred the old sounds, just a bit quieter. The new sounds are so deep that they sound flat, really no kick at all.

 

Also, all sniper rifles seem to sound the same. What was wrong with JSRS 1.5 sounds?

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Are the new sounds gonna be final? I'm kind of disappointed in them, in my opinion they're really only improving by not being too loud, but other than that I would've preferred the old sounds, just a bit quieter. The new sounds are so deep that they sound flat, really no kick at all.

 

I went through this discussion many, many times (A3 Audio Tweeking for dev branch) and it is not easy to me to not sound offencive and to be tottaly clear in what i want to say. Language barrier and stuff ;) But be sure, it is absolutely not my intention to treat someone condescendingly! Also i will refer to statements on our bugtracker so see this as a more "in general" note.

 

So first of all, this is still WIP and yes the sounds are (mostly) pretty bass/lowend heavy so it might seem a bit "muffled". This definitly needs rework.

But old sounds or even JSRS like mentioned on the bugtracker are totally unacceptable. The reason is very simple and also the reason why i worked the new sounds for month (and o/c the new tail sound configs). Most, if not all of those sounds are recordings from youtube or similar. Videos recorded with camcorders or helmetcams and those microphones record anything but reallife sound. This not enough, all of those sounds, and i mean ALL, are distorted / overdriven and generally in pretty bad quality shape.

So everytime somebody telling me "hey, this is what it must sound like" and points me to a youtube video i burst out laughing b/c this is totally NOT what it is in RL. Like i already mentioned crappy camera microphones, internal sound processing in the camera, dataloss while uploading, more dataloss when converted to YT audioformat and again qualityloss when audioprocessed again.

So please don't get me wrong, but only guys who actually shot those weapons before know how it sounds and feels. And i dought that even 2% of the whole community ever fired a single shot. To be honest, i never did. But what i know is, there are NO adequate references on the web except sound libraries recorded from professional sound engineers. This is why i've spend a lot of money to get my hands on that. So i can assure you that more than 80% of CUP Weapon sounds are based uppon the real weapons and their sounds recorded in the US by professionals. 

But nevertheless like i said, this is WIP and i will do my very best to provide you with sterling sounds and keeping it as real as possible. Thanks for your input!

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Good to hear that the sounds are being worked on.

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Desperately needs HLC animations. If it had that the weapons would be excellent.

Didn't Toadie make at least some of his source files available? Can't remember if that was only for demonstration purposes or if they could actually be used as part of CUP but his animations are so damn good.

 

Aside from that, loving the weapon pack, I'll confess to missing some of the weirder weapons available in the older games (especially the Lee Enfield. :D) so having those back is nice. Also, a MASSIVE thank you for using that icon system in the virtual arsenal so we can see what mod the weapons belong to, I just threw this on top of my usual mods for testing (which includes RHS) so it's dead handy to have that. 

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CUP Weapons Pack - Hotfix v1.2.1

Mirrors: STEAM WORKSHOP, MEGA, GOOGLE DRIVE, ARMAHOLIC, PLAY WITHSIX
Requires: @ASDG_JR

 

Changelog
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Weapons Pack - v1.2.1 / 2015-08-11

- Fixed: RHS conflict error

 

 

 

 

CUP Units Pack - Hotfix v1.0.1

Mirrors: STEAM WORKSHOP, MEGA, GOOGLE DRIVE, ARMAHOLIC, PLAY WITHSIX
Requires: @ASDG_JR, @CUP_Weapons(up ^^)

 

Units Pack - v1.0.1 / 2015-08-11

- Fixed: ACE3 compability with USMC FR units 
- Fixed: No CUP icon in Arsenal

 

 

 

You can find any additional info on our Wiki.

 

Please report issues on our feadback tracker.

 

Want to join or help? Contact us via an e-mail - contact@cup-arma3.org or directly on our website.

 

For credits and other information, see our web page.

 

 

Kind regards,

CUP Team

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