RaptorAce 0 Posted October 8, 2002 AcidCrash, I knew that it had changed last month, but it was originally intended to be a fighter only aircraft and cuz of this i think that it has its dogfighting advantages in its design. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F22FlyerAce 0 Posted October 30, 2002 The F-22 is the most advanced Fighter to date notice I said fighter and it might have been Redesignated the F/A-22 its a Purebread fighter through and through ITs engines provide a Supercruise of 1.5 the Mig-35 didnt come close to that mark it has the First production fighter with CTV(combat Thrust Vectoring) and a thrust to weight ratio of 2. something In addition it has good lowspeed Handling it can stay aloft at under 100 MPH and manuver well which meens tighter turns but still like any plane at low speeds is sort of sluggish Next is its stealth and Radar The F-22 is stealth which can only be detected at close ranges *those Radars i have heard that said they could detect it Ive never seen a single document about it* the Radar has a Range of 80+NM this is real hard for me to summarize all of this into one message so much stuff the body of the F-22 is a very aerodynamical Shape thanks to the Continuous Curvature Stealth technique which lends itself to aerodynamics The F-22s Armament will consist of the current AIM missles in the USAF inventory as well as new Missles such as the Aim-9X missle which has a rotating seeker head of 90+ degrees and thrust vectoring control like the russian archer but... unlike the Archer the Aim-9 is not as heavy nor as bulky as the Archer and can turn tighter and isnt as "stupid" as the archer and it more than likely will be able to use the newer Stealthy munitions to preserve Stealtiness while under wing pylons more than likely Planned prior to the ATF and JSF projects were called for the AOA currently released to the public is 60+ degrees and roll the Avionics and link ups for the F-22 are newer and more reliable than the previous so called data links the F-22 can link up into another aircraft like another F-22 and use its systems like radar etc etc it has an All glass cockpit no steam gauges or Dials and uses the HOTAS system so the pilot never needs to take his hands off the Stick and throttle when comparing to other newer fighters coming int service EFT Su-35 J-10 Etc the F-22 would leave the fighters in the dust and this even includes your beloved Su-37 which isnt going into service and as i heard someone stating that it had Rear launching missles which it doesnt the physics of doing such a thing just doesnt work and the Mig-35 nah eh it doesnt cut the mustard ill update this when my head cools off from trying to summarize the F-22 which is almost impossible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted October 31, 2002 That's very nice, but if you will check the first page of this topic (which is a month old now) you will see we kind of said all that already  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted October 31, 2002 F22FlyerAce, posts like these are why I most often dismiss posts about aircraft from someone who's handle incuides the name of that AC....way too much bias. The F-22 is obviously your pet plane, and no matter what anyone tells you it will remain invulnerable in your mind. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The F-22s Armament will consist of the current AIM missles in the USAF inventory as well as new Missles such as the Aim-9X missle which has a rotating seeker head of 90+ degrees and thrust vectoring control like the russian archer but... unlike the Archer the Aim-9 is not as heavy nor as bulky as the Archer and can turn tighter and isnt as "stupid" as the archer<span id='postcolor'> Where have you seen proof of this? Here are the dimensions I have for both of those missiles: R-73 Archer: Length 2.9 m Diameter 170 mm Fin Span 0.51 m Aim-9X: Length 3.02 m (118.8 in) Diameter 127 mm (5 in) Fin Span 0.28 m (11 in) The differences in size are negligible. Calling the Archer "bulky" in comparison is nonsense. If anything, it's wider fin span would help it's maneuverability. However, at the G-loads both missiles will operate at - far greater than any fighter can turn - any minute advantage in maneuverability towards either missile would be a moot point. If the plane being targeted can't spoof the guidance system, it is screwed. Period. As for the Archer being "stupid" in comparison, again, please show proof. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and as i heard someone stating that it had Rear launching missles which it doesnt the physics of doing such a thing just doesnt work <span id='postcolor'> Umm...yes it does. You know, it's funny, I'm an aircraft fanatic, and I like the F-22, but it amazes me when people feel the need to protect their pet AC by baselessly dumping all over other planes and weapon systems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F22FlyerAce 0 Posted October 31, 2002 yes it is my pet plane and the length of the Aim-9 is 2.87 meters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frisbee 0 Posted October 31, 2002 Well my pet plane is the A10 and it'll shred all your weak and sensitive fighters with a good old 30mm burst.[\sarcasm] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted October 31, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (F22FlyerAce @ Oct. 31 2002,01:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yes it is my pet plane and the length of the Aim-9 is 2.87 meters<span id='postcolor'> You're right, If you're talking about the Aim-9D/G/H Aim-9B: Length 2.83 m (111.5 in) Aim-9D/G/H: Length 2.87 m (113 in) Aim-9E Length 3.00 m (118 in) Aim-9J/N Length 3.05 m (120 in) Aim-9L/M Length 2.85 m (112.2 in) Aim-9X Length 3.02 m (118.8 in) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloney 0 Posted October 31, 2002 I snickered when I saw there was a missle named ASRAAM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted October 31, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Cloney @ Oct. 31 2002,03:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I snickered when I saw there was a missle named ASRAAM <span id='postcolor'> LOL you know....somehow I never thought of it that way....hehehheheh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloney 0 Posted October 31, 2002 <USAF Instructor> Ok, Today we will be studying the ASRAAM, Now who wants to touch my ASRAAM? <Trainees> *Shrink in their chairs* <USAF Instructor> Whats the deal, its just a long, thick, white missle that you shoot up the tail pipe of a enemy <Trainees> *Snicker* <USAF Instructor> Okay I guess its time to train with the new ASRAAMs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted October 31, 2002 Lol The ASRAAM is a British piece of equipment though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloney 0 Posted October 31, 2002 "Piece" "Equipment" Okay who wants to touch my piece of British Equipment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acidcrash 0 Posted October 31, 2002 wow, this threads back from the dead turning into a pissing contest again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted October 31, 2002 well, this is becoming spammified..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites