[RELEASE] Wearing Enemy Uniforms

[austin_medic 109]

Wearing Enemy Uniforms

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austin_medic

Basically this script uses a custom action to get around the ridiculous blocks BI puts into the game that follows the geneva convention. You can equip enemy uniforms by using the action on any dead body as long as your within five meters of it. Their gear in the uniform will get transferred over too, so make sure you empty it back onto the ground and you fill it back up with your own stuff.

Usage is simple, merge the init.sqf and drop the script into the root mission folder.

Hostiles will still shoot you when they see you, so the mission maker will need to do some work on their end to help this achieve full functionality.

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Edited December 29, 2014 by austin_medic

[epicgoldenwarrior 11]

I remember in Alpha when we were supposed to be able to do this so enemy units wouldnt notice us.

Do enemy units still see us as an enemy?

[warlord554 2065]

Cool stuff. Thx

[Gunter Severloh 4071]

Cool, ya i remember too see a video where they had a soldier swim to shore, take out a guy, put on his uniform and blend in, I thought this was a permanent

thing in the game, I dont recall in the changelogs BIS mentioning this feature ever being take out, and if they did why?

[genesis92x 810]

Cool, ya i remember too see a video where they had a soldier swim to shore, take out a guy, put on his uniform and blend in, I thought this was a permanent

thing in the game, I dont recall in the changelogs BIS mentioning this feature ever being take out, and if they did why?

I believe they mentioned that it was against the Geneva Convention. However, I don't really believe that... I am leaning toward them just not giving the mechanic the time it needed due to time restrictions and other engagements at the time.

The Geneva Convention excuse doesn't fly when AI will blissfully shoot unarmed soldiers or medics treating others.

[austin_medic 109]

I remember in Alpha when we were supposed to be able to do this so enemy units wouldnt notice us.

Do enemy units still see us as an enemy?

currently yes. I didn't anticipate that when I created this script specifically, but a long while ago I made a script that made you captive to other sides when you were wearing different uniforms so they wouldn't shoot you.

[Gunter Severloh 4071]

Lol Geneva convention, wtf really!

thats so old school WW2 how does that even apply to anything related to todays stuff?

i can see wearing swastikas where its banned in Germany and doing crazy real stuff like that, and mimicking real life things but for this

your only wearing an enemy uniform,you can where their uniform if you choose it from the uniforms in arsenal, so whats the difference, who are you hurting with this?

I am leaning toward them just not giving the mechanic the time it needed due to time restrictions and other engagements at the time.

Agree with you here, but Id like to read what they actually said about this, why it was taken out.

[austin_medic 109]

Lol Geneva convention, wtf really!

thats so old school WW2 how does that even apply to anything related to todays stuff?

i can see wearing swastikas where its banned in Germany and doing crazy real stuff like that, and mimicking real life things but for this

your only wearing an enemy uniform,you can where their uniform if you choose it from the uniforms in arsenal, so whats the difference, who are you hurting with this?

Agree with you here, but Id like to read what they actually said about this, why it was taken out.

I believe I read something that said it was because of the Geneva convention. They actually believed that it was like where they just do it for the sake of doing. no logic behind it. They even warn you about using cluster munitions against soldiers and civilians with a big popup on the side of the screen.

Then later on they said it was because the video that was created with that was 100% scripted - Probably looked something similar to what I had only in engine code ironically.

[Gunter Severloh 4071]

Someone please tell them its a game!

Being only one feature or aspect of the game, maybe they should count how many atrocities each player does in their games against whomever and whatever.

Im sure nukes are dropped, civilians lined up for executions, ect,. are they going to police everything? :j:

Maybe the Convention should worry about real life matters like ISIS trying to take over whole countries and their real life atrocities, and here we have

to deal with fake, not real, made up, stuff in a game of all places, and were only wearing an enemy uniform, not like i went to another country and killed someone

and stole their uniform and trying to blend in and kill some high ranking officer, which would be a cool idea for a mission btw ;) lol

[TheMightyKovacs 6]

Article 4 defines prisoners of war to include:

"# 4.1.1 Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict and members of militias of such armed forces

# 4.1.2 Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, provided that they fulfill all of the following conditions:

* that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;

* that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance (there are limited exceptions to this among countries who observe the 1977 Protocol I);

* that of carrying arms openly;

4.1.6 Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war.

Also in the Law of war it says:

Modern laws of war regarding conduct during war (jus in bello), such as the 1949 Geneva Conventions, provide that it is unlawful for belligerents to engage in combat without meeting certain requirements, such as wearing distinctive uniform or other distinctive signs visible at a distance, carrying weapons openly, and conducting operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war. Impersonating enemy combatants by wearing the enemy’s uniform is allowed, though fighting in that uniform is unlawful perfidy, as is the taking of hostages.

While it is absurd that it is not in game, and that it is just a game, it's something we sorta have to deal with. But I digress, as this isn't the correct place to talk about such matters anyhow. That's what the off topic thread is for!

[Jona33 51]

I'm pretty sure the Geneva convention excuse is a load of nonsense, but it was easier to remove the feature than teach the AI RoE (to be honest I don't remember BI ever using that, I think someone in the community suggested it and it became 'truth'), like how you can be sitting in a civilian vehicle with no weapons but the AI still knows that you're enemy.

[epicgoldenwarrior 11]

Cool, ya i remember too see a video where they had a soldier swim to shore, take out a guy, put on his uniform and blend in, I thought this was a permanent

thing in the game, I dont recall in the changelogs BIS mentioning this feature ever being take out, and if they did why?

Exactly the video I was talking about!

Anyone have a link? :O

[alky_lee 279]

I'm pretty sure the Geneva convention excuse is a load of nonsense, but it was easier to remove the feature than teach the AI RoE (to be honest I don't remember BI ever using that, I think someone in the community suggested it and it became 'truth'), like how you can be sitting in a civilian vehicle with no weapons but the AI still knows that you're enemy.

During the Alpha you could put on any uniform you liked, even take it off a dead body. This functionality was removed later and there were problems with naked characters in missions around the start of 2014. I remember a mission in Medal of Honour where you wore a German Uniform and could pass through checkpoints by showing your papers, but you couldn't draw a weapon or enter restricted areas or you would be treated as the enemy you were. It was an interesting change to shooting everything you see.

Back to the topic, there are mods that can be used to unlock uniforms or make you incognito in the recommended addons of the Pilgrimage mission.

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[austin_medic 109]

I'm pretty sure the Geneva convention excuse is a load of nonsense, but it was easier to remove the feature than teach the AI RoE (to be honest I don't remember BI ever using that, I think someone in the community suggested it and it became 'truth'), like how you can be sitting in a civilian vehicle with no weapons but the AI still knows that you're enemy.

If you look in the field guide menu under the clothing category (which I believe is a sub tab of the Inventory category), it even mentions that you can't wear enemy uniforms because of the Geneva Conventions.