Stop Player Being Able to Give Commands to Driver!

[Kydoimos 916]

Hi all - how can you stop the player giving commands to the driver in an offroad, if you're the gunner? For instance, if the AI is driving somewhere, the player can drive them elsewhere...

[maturin 12]

Put the player in a different group or make the driver higher rank.

[Kydoimos 916]

Tried that! Didn't work. I'm on Dev branch - could this be something they're trying out? It's potentially mission breaking for me! Thanks for the response though!

[IndeedPete 1038]

Having a similar situation in which a higher ranking AI officer (and groupleader) is driver while the player is in the gunner position. While the groupleader issues the order to move to the next waypoint the player has to give the actual command to move the car, totally weird. oO I'm running stable 1.24.

[Wiki 1558]

Not in the same group doesn't work?

[Kydoimos 916]

Nope - the gunner's become the defacto commander!

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http://feedback.arma3.com/view.php?id=19792

[f2k sel 164]

There is a poor mans work around.

in init.sqf put

disableserialization;  
player setvariable ["blocked",[]];
waitUntil {!isNull findDisplay 46}; 
_block_key = (findDisplay 46) displayAddEventHandler ["KeyDown"," if ((_this select 1) in (player getvariable 'blocked' )) then {true} else {false}"];
[] execvm "block.sqf";

save as block.sqf

while {alive player} do {
if ( (assignedVehicleRole player select 0)   == "TURRET") then {
         player setvariable ["blocked",[16,17,18,30,31,32]];		
} else {
player setvariable ["blocked",[]];
  };// end if
  sleep 0.1;
};// endwhile

The problem will be if players remap their keys.

It should be possible to block that but as yet I haven't seen it done in A3.

[IndeedPete 1038]

But the problem with that approach is that the driver still won't do a single move without the gunner's command. At least that's the case when both are in the same group.

[f2k sel 164]

Correct I hadn't retested when I was in the same group.

I guess you would have to remove the driver or gunner from the group as well.

I'm sure this wasn't a problem in A2, I'm sure I remember being driven around by the AI while I was a gunner.

I just tested A2 and as long as your not grouped you can't give orders and AI follows WP.

Edited July 18, 2014 by F2k Sel

[Kydoimos 916]

Thanks for the workaround F2k Sel - can anyone think of a way of making something like that work - even if the player remaps their keys? Also, even if you're not in the same group, the gunner can control the driver! Seems sort of crazy to me!

[barbolani 198]

Have you tried to make the driver enemy and setcaptive? You shouldn't be able to give him orders, or not?

[Kydoimos 916]

That could work - but might cause a few other issues in context - thanks for the suggestion, barbolani! I'll try it!

[Kydoimos 916]

Have you tried to make the driver enemy and setcaptive? You shouldn't be able to give him orders, or not?

Ha! ARRRGH! Nope! You can order OPFOR as BLUFOR! Lol!

[IndeedPete 1038]

Ha! ARRRGH! Nope! You can order OPFOR as BLUFOR! Lol!

Well, that is kind of funny. :D

[Kydoimos 916]

I think I'm going to have to re-write my mission and wait for a fix!

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I tried blocking the keys, but as I use the arrow keys, not (W,A,S,Z) it didn't really work. Plus, some people will have handheld controllers etc. - a good idea in principle though!

[2nd ranger 282]

It's not a bug, it's a 'feature'. In a vehicle without a commander position, the gunner position doubles as commander. It's not likely to change.

[Kydoimos 916]

Thanks, 2nd Ranger - I'll have to re-think things, cheers!

[f2k sel 164]

It's not a bug, it's a 'feature'. In a vehicle without a commander position, the gunner position doubles as commander. It's not likely to change.

I still think there is a bug.

If you place a vehicle with crew and you're the gunner and it has a commander the commander has control, as expected.

If you remove yourself from the group the commander still has control, as expected.

However if you get in a vehicle or are moved into a vehicle this is where it falls apart.

The vehicle will not move unless it's ordered to do so by the player even if the AI is leader and has commander and also has waypoints to follow.

If the whole group is AI it will move on it's own, as expected.

What I think should happen is that an AI driver should attempt to follow waypoints unless the player issues orders, this is how it worked in A2 I think.

Edited July 19, 2014 by F2k Sel

[Kydoimos 916]

Even better, IMO, would be to have a way to disable player commands to the driver. For cutscenes, convoy missions, etc. Yeah - I must admit, seems a little bit buggy.