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[spooky lynx 73]

Meanwhile another military radar station is destroyed in Lugansk.

[mistyronin 1181]

Meanwhile another military radar station is destroyed in Lugansk.

That's the other side of the coin to see how the agreement is been applied on the ground ( although the news are from last night ).

Because without actions from the sides in conflict, the agreement is only a bunch of paper.

[arttem 1]

But Russian main "treasure" right now are its resources ( they don't have any Silicon Valley, Baden-Württemberg, Catalonia, Rhône-Alpes or Lombardy, etc. ).

http://youtu.be/l89OqGJBNmE

You need to learn about Russia more. Not only StalinLeninHitlerPutin.

[mistyronin 1181]

ArtTem, to be Russian you don't seem to know much your own country.

Here you have what's important in Russia's economy:

[arttem 1]

ArtTem, to be Russian you don't seem to know much your own country.

Here you have what's important in Russia's economy:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Russian_Export_Treemap_(2011).png

Emmmm. Do you looking on the dates? No? We grow and grow. Yes, you can't shoot as a rocket in the sky. But we grow and grow.

P.S. It's our main trump. It's a guaranty. Plus Nuclear Shield. And we seat calm and safe.

Edited May 7, 2014 by ArtTem

[mistyronin 1181]

Emmmm. Do you looking on the dates? No? We grow and grow. Yes, you can't shoot as a rocket in the sky. But we grow and grow.

Aha... don't go to high with that rocket... as more higher you are, worse is the fall...

[arttem 1]

Aha... don't go to high with that rocket... as more higher you are, worse is the fall...

Envy is not good.

[mistyronin 1181]

Envy is not good.

GDP:

[arttem 1]

GDP:

http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/images/a/ab/Share_of_world_GDP_2010_(%25).png

I can't understand, where is Finland here.

[ProfTournesol 956]

About growth, that's "Russian mountains" recently :

[arttem 1]

About growth, that's "Russian mountains" recently :

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2014/01/08/russia-gdp.PNG

Yeap. But let's take Moody's agency. BBC and CNN and West economy specialist like them.

http://s020.radikal.ru/i721/1405/93/35861870cf28.png (195 kB)

And ofcourse Finland.

And it's yours West reputable agency.

Edited May 7, 2014 by ArtTem

[mistyronin 1181]

I can't understand, where is Finland here.

Finland is in the biggest part, the one in lime green.

BTW you seem to don't remember that I'm not Finnish, I just work here ;) ( I told you long ago that I'm from another EU country and that I've been in a NATO army ).

Besides the "nice thing" of the EU is that if any of their countries fall, all the rest help it and all together keep forward stronger.

NOTE: Even parts of the EU alone have bigger GDP than Russia, like UK, France and Germany. In fact even Brazil GDP is higher than Russia.

Edited May 7, 2014 by MistyRonin

[arttem 1]

Finland is in the biggest part, the one in lime green.

BTW you seem to don't remember that I'm not Finnish, I just work here ;) ( I told you long ago that I'm from another EU country and that I've been in a NATO army )

NOTE: Even parts of the EU alone have bigger GDP than Russia, like UK, France and Germany. In fact even Brazil GDP is higher than Russia.

That's your problem guys. If England vote to go out from EU. What you will do? And if France do the same?

BTW. Did you look EU stats?

Edited May 7, 2014 by ArtTem

[mistyronin 1181]

That's your problem guys. If England vote to go out from EU. What you will do? And if France do the same?

We will still have a few times Russia GDP.

That's your problem guys. If England vote to go out from EU. What you will do? And if France do the same?

BTW. Did you look EU stats?

http://i.imgur.com/naONJvd.png

Yeah, and even in the EU worst economical crisis we are still are the top GDP in the world. Don't worry too much for us, until now we have been able to solve our stuff.

Edited May 7, 2014 by MistyRonin

[arttem 1]

We will still have a few times Russia GDP.

Yeah, and even in the EU worst economical crisis we are still are the top GDP in the world. Don't worry too much for us, until now we have been able to solve our stuff.

The same. Don't worry too much for us, until now we have been able to solve our stuff.

[mistyronin 1181]

The same. Don't worry too much for us, until now we have been able to solve our stuff.

Anyone that knows about Russia's economy in this last 50 years would have a few doubts about that.

Anyway, let's look back to the beginning of today's conversation:

[arttem 1]

Anyone that knows about Russia's economy in this last 50 years would have a few doubts about that.

Anyway, let's look back to the beginning of today's conversation:

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/73381000/gif/_73381797_russia_trade_partners_464gr.gif

Ufffff. FPDR Again 2012. Is it so hard to use some serious data and not the BBC picture?

http://i.imgur.com/v7HOYON.png (213 kB)

Edited May 7, 2014 by ArtTem

[mistyronin 1181]

Ufffff. FPDR Again 2012. Is it so hard to use some serious data and not the BBC picture?

I showed that pic because its easy to understand. And 2 years its almost nothing.

But ok, if you are happy we can use your fresh data. It shows that EU is the main trading partner of Russia by far. So what?

If Putin was not afraid of more sanctions why has he changed his strategy in such a great degree? He has suddently become a Hare Krisna? God sent a message to him?

[arttem 1]

Again that "blackpeople". Now in Mariupol.

http://youtu.be/zTOF5mH0AIs

[mistyronin 1181]

Again that "blackpeople". Now in Mariupol.

http://youtu.be/zTOF5mH0AIs

They look like the ones in Odessa, same helmets and equipment. I wonder who the hell are them.

[arttem 1]

They look like the ones in Odessa, same helmets and equipment. I wonder who the hell are them.

Can't see, the sun gives glare.

****

From the same place.

http://youtu.be/QoPc0ieGtK8

[mistyronin 1181]

They are really weird, IMO they don't move at all like trained soldiers, and everywhere they are seen seem to act with a lot of aggresivity.

But if they are able to roam around freely is that cuz they may have some official permit ( I guess ).

[arttem 1]

They are really weird, IMO they don't move at all like trained soldiers, and everywhere they are seen seem to act with a lot of aggresivity.

But if they are able to roam around freely is that cuz they may have some official permit ( I guess ).

Note. They wear pouches for ammo of the old sample. Very old. AKS-74 is from old times too. (wooden plates)

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White House says no confirmations of Russian troops’ pullback from border

WASHINGTON, May 07. /ITAR-TASS/. U.S. Administration has “no evidence†of a pullback of Russian troops from the Russian-Ukrainian border, White House spokesman Josh Earnest claimed Wednesday.

[mistyronin 1181]

( NY Times ) Russia Quietly Tightens Reins on Web With ‘Bloggers Law’

Russia has taken another major step toward restricting its once freewheeling Internet, as President Vladimir V. Putin quietly signed a new law requiring popular online voices to register with the government, a measure that lawyers, Internet pioneers and political activists said Tuesday would give the government a much wider ability to track who said what online.

Mr. Putin’s action on Monday, just weeks after he disparaged the Internet as “a special C.I.A. project,†borrowed a page from the restrictive Internet playbooks of many governments around the world that have been steadily smothering online freedoms they once tolerated.

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From the Guardian:

Ukraine's prime minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said Vladimir Putin's appeal to militia was "hot air", according to Interfax-Ukraine. Yatsenyuk reportedly addressed the Russian president, saying "Vladimir Vladimirovich, dealing in hot air doesn't suit you, as the president of a major country"

Another leader of Kiev, presidential candidate Petro Poroshenko, also responded to Putin's comments and the possibility of a future referendum: "We are even ready to have a referendum but not under the barrels of machine guns or automatic rifles … After the presidential election, after restoring law and order, we are ready to discuss any referendum and … constitutional changes … with anyone."

But Reuters reports that he also called on the west to prepare new sanctions, just in case: "If Russia supports this referendum, we need absolutely agreed action about the third wave of sanctions, well-co-ordinated between the US and EU."

Poroshenko, a confectionary magnate who was a leader among the Maidan opposition, is the leading candidate with 48.4% support, according to a poll last month. He made comments to reporters before a meeting with Chancellor Angela Merkel to discuss Germany's support for Ukraine's sovereignty.

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( Presidency of Russia ) Today's Putin's press statement and replies to journalists’ questions ( in English )

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BTW an awesome photo of the most adorable leader, with Ukraine's flag ( from the best and most objective media: RT ):

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel about Russia ( From the Guardian Live ) :

Speaking in Berlin at an event to commemorate the outbreak of the first world war, she [said] "In Crimea we're experiencing a regression into old patterns of thinking … Those whose thinking revolves around their own sphere of influence may be stronger than us in the short-term but not in the end. In the end they will only damage themselves."

"These days we are seeing that we cannot take peace and freedom for granted, even among our close neighbours," said Merkel, who recalled that Berliners a century ago cheered the outbreak of the first world war, something that was unthinkable today.

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