akm74 1 Posted April 22, 2014 BTW: ArtTem if you wanna watch CNN, at least watch Erin Burnett shows, google her and you will understand why. You just like this girl, admit it :rolleyes: But i agree. She best what CNN have now. Unfortunately she mostly covering domestic issue. Piers was not bad either (when he just start at cnn) until he star his endless crusade against NRA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistyronin 1181 Posted April 22, 2014 You just like this girl, admit it :rolleyes: Hahaha yeah! I admit it!:o She is really cute! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akm74 1 Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Vice News (Dispatch Zero-Zero-Seven :)) Look like Simon get arrested/obtained, not 100% sure yet. (lesson to learn: don't ask everyone you meet for passport :) specially when you have 2 passports yourself) Hope they will let him go soon... http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/22/n_6102649.shtml Edited April 22, 2014 by AKM74 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arttem 1 Posted April 22, 2014 Vice News (Dispatch Zero-Zero-Seven :)) Look like Simon get arrested/obtained, not 100% sure yet. (lesson to learn: don't ask everyone you meet for passport :) specially when you have 2 passports yourself) Hope they will let him go soon... http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/22/n_6102649.shtml "He was not kidnapped, no one is holding him, he is now in the SBU, prepares new material" - said Ponomarev. Oooooops. They killed his career. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted April 22, 2014 Vice News (Dispatch Zero-Zero-Seven :)) Look like Simon get arrested/obtained, not 100% sure yet. (lesson to learn: don't ask everyone you meet for passport :) specially when you have 2 passports yourself) Hope they will let him go soon... http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/22/n_6102649.shtml Arrested by whom? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arttem 1 Posted April 22, 2014 Arrested by whom? Self defence forces in Slavyansk kidnapped American journalist. It is noted that the press conference was briefly interrupted, parents of the journalist called by phone to Ponomarev, leader of Slavyansk militia assured that their son is all right. "He was not kidnapped, no one is holding him, he is now in the SBU, prepares new material" - said Ponomarev. It's in that article. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akm74 1 Posted April 22, 2014 from his tweets.. Simon Ostrovsky â€@SimonOstrovsky Apr 21 Now he's not letting reporters leave the press conference: "you'll go as you came in. In a group." That's one way to guarantee coverage. Look like his not been held after all. But little bet of "self-advertisement" always help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistyronin 1181 Posted April 22, 2014 Look like Simon get arrested/obtained, not 100% sure yet. (lesson to learn: don't ask everyone you meet for passport :) specially when you have 2 passports yourselfhttp://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/22/n_6102649.shtml To me that's a pretty sad news, even if instead of kidnapped he has just been held and threaten. Journalist ( no matter color nor politic orientation ) should be allowed to do their job. That's to protect one of the most essential rights, freedom of expression. Said that to be a journalist and specially in that kind of situations always have its risks. I personally like his kind of approach, asking the questions people don't want to be asked, but it has its downside ( in my case I would avoid some of the situations he got,involved, or at least go in low profile ). If proven, to me that kind of attitudes just make me think worst of the violent armed insurgents.basically they are acting like terrorists. - - - ( BBC ) Ukraine alert as politician 'killed' Ukraine's acting president has ordered the relaunch of military operations against pro-Russian militants in the east after two men, one a local politician, were "tortured to death".Oleksandr Turchynov said the body of politician Vladimir Rybak was found near rebel-held Sloviansk. "The terrorists who effectively took the whole Donetsk region hostage have now gone too far," he said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arttem 1 Posted April 22, 2014 To me that's a pretty sad news, even if instead of kidnapped he has just been held and threaten. Journalist ( no matter color nor politic orientation ) should be allowed to do their job. That's to protect one of the most essential rights, freedom of expression.Said that to be a journalist and specially in that kind of situations always have its risks. I personally like his kind of approach, asking the questions people don't want to be asked, but it has its downside ( in my case I would avoid some of the situations he got,involved, or at least go in low profile ). If proven, to me that kind of attitudes just make me think worst of the violent armed insurgents.basically they are acting like terrorists. Tell me one thing. :) You don't read any links, yes? :) He wasn't kidnapped, he wasn't threaten. Only one women said to them that they are liars. :) Oh, it's a disaster. They are all free. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistyronin 1181 Posted April 22, 2014 Tell me one thing. :) You don't read any links, yes? :) He wasn't kidnapped, he wasn't threaten. Only one women said to them that they are liars. :) Oh, it's a disaster. They are all free. :) Yep I did, and also did some research on my side, it's still unclear what happened, the tweet AKM74 posted is from more than a day ago. In Vice News haven't said anything new, ergo... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akm74 1 Posted April 23, 2014 i was browsing vice new site and accidentally found shocking video (for me at least). Russia have to air this clip over Ukraine for 24 hours only and ... united Ukraine (west and east) will rushing to build huge wall on the west borders...;) Sorry for little OT. Its simply unbelievable... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistyronin 1181 Posted April 23, 2014 i was browsing vice new site and accidentally found shocking video (for me at least). Russia have to air this clip over Ukraine for 24 hours only and ... united Ukraine (west and east) will rushing to build huge wall on the west borders...;) Well, you have to think that they are really minority groups ( both sides ), although they are not rare in most of the countries of the EU. It's a symptom of bad integration policies and immigration. And in this video you haven't seen much. Google for the Stockholm immigration riots, or in France to say some examples. Also in Spain I remember some riots in El Ejido. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arttem 1 Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) While we are looking on South East of Ukraine. We forget about Crimea. I collect all news from Russian EMERCOM about Crimea in one post. EMERCOM of Russia, delivered the baby from Simferopol (Crimea) to St. Petersburg. (Russian Emergency Command) http://www.mchs.gov.ru/news/item/726545/ The child was born in Crimea on April 17 with congenital heart disease. According to doctors, he is in urgent need of highly qualified medical assistance, which he may have in the Federal medical and research center named V.A. Almazov. http://www.mchs.gov.ru/upload/site1/document_images/XwUQwEQYEJ-800x600.jpg (305 kB) http://www.mchs.gov.ru/upload/site1/document_images/A2eHmaOYR1-800x600.jpg (303 kB) 20-ton cargo sent to the Crimea (Russian Emergency Command) http://www.mchs.gov.ru/news/item/716637/ 20-tons of medicines and medical equipment, office equipment, food storage and fire-technical equipment for the Simferopol rescue fire brigade. http://www.mchs.gov.ru/upload/site1/document_images/ShdCe2YJ8p-800x600.jpg (326 kB) Two boats of Russian EMERCOM arrived to Sevastopol to work on prevention and rapid response to accidents at sea. (Russian Emergency Command) http://www.mchs.gov.ru/news/item/716118/ The holiday season is coming, and boats will be put on duty to patrol and rescue people in the water. http://www.mchs.gov.ru/upload/site1/document_images/9tv3RjLfp5-800x600.jpg (335 kB) Rescuers received passports of citizens of the Russian Federation in Sevastopol. (Russian Emergency Command) http://www.mchs.gov.ru/news/item/713459/ The work on reception of documents for registration of passports of the Russian Federation for all the rescue workers and members of their families was organized in Sevastopol. http://www.mchs.gov.ru/upload/site1/document_images/iRG2TCU3f5-800x600.jpg (384 kB) New materials and equipment sent to the Crimea for the new main departments of the EMERCOM in Republic of Crimea, and Sevastopol. (Russian Emergency Command) http://www.mchs.gov.ru/news/item/704256/ 6 fire engines put into service of the main departments of the EMERCOM in Sevastopol. http://www.mchs.gov.ru/upload/site1/document_news/3D3WTjScLY-big-350.jpg (107 kB) New motorbikes for rescue workers and some new engines. Sevastopol, Crimea. http://youtu.be/nMD0vyJ7ysw Edited April 23, 2014 by ArtTem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sudayev 27 Posted April 23, 2014 http://ukrainianpolicy.com/insurgents-identified-the-green-men-of-vkontakte/ So called "separatists" identified. Mostly Russo-Cossak import, some of them like swastikas too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProfTournesol 956 Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) i was browsing vice new site and accidentally found shocking video (for me at least). Russia have to air this clip over Ukraine for 24 hours only and ... united Ukraine (west and east) will rushing to build huge wall on the west borders...;) Sorry for little OT. Its simply unbelievable... Yeah, i came across those guys when i was in London a couple of years ago (i even took a few pictures of them), they were shouting "Sharia to France" in front of the French embassy. They are a handful of excited guys (and women), Londoners were shocked to hear them shout this. I never saw that in France, i'm not sure the French law would permit that. Edited April 23, 2014 by ProfTournesol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted April 23, 2014 http://ukrainianpolicy.com/insurgents-identified-the-green-men-of-vkontakte/So called "separatists" identified. Mostly Russo-Cossak import, some of them like swastikas too. Well some of these pictures are very questionable. Although I do think that russian cossacks are very much involved in this whole mess. Political tourists they call them. You Russian houd really take a look at this whole Cossak thing. They are ultra nationalists, basically faschists (oh the irony) and your government grants them police rights.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistyronin 1181 Posted April 23, 2014 About the photos, here is a nice article from the BBC: What the 'Russian soldier' photos say What comes across from the photos is that at least one unit of heavily armed, well-equipped, pro-Russian paramilitaries has been operating in the Donetsk region.But it cannot be said for sure that they are actual Russian special forces, as the Ukrainians argue. At the same time, the idea that they might be a local militia from Donetsk is belied by their apparent military professionalism. Russian President Vladimir Putin said last week there were "no Russian units, special services or instructors in the east of Ukraine" but such denials of military involvement ring hollow for many after Russia's covert actions in Crimea, especially after he subsequently admitted troops had operated there. Without using photos, Gen Philip Breedlove, Nato's commander in Europe, argued convincingly last week that they must be "Russian forces". That said, theoretically, the paramilitaries in the photos could be ex-servicemen from Russia or elsewhere. Military veterans of the Soviet war in Afghanistan have been active on both the nationalist side in Ukraine and in patriotic groups in Russia. - - - ( BBC ) US runs the show in Kiev, says Sergei Lavrov The US is "running the show" in Ukraine, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said.Mr Lavrov told Russia Today it was "quite telling" that Kiev had re-launched its anti-terror operation against pro-Russian gunmen during a visit by US Vice-President Joe Biden. Kiev and the West say Moscow commands the gunmen - claims denied by Russia. ---------- Post added at 13:45 ---------- Previous post was at 13:37 ---------- Reuters Ukraine's leaders say have U.S. backing to take on 'aggressors' Ukraine's government said on Wednesday the United States had promised to stand by it in the face of aggression, and announced that it would press ahead with a security operation to crack down on pro-Russian armed groups Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrim 1 Posted April 23, 2014 i was browsing vice new site and accidentally found shocking video (for me at least). Russia have to air this clip over Ukraine for 24 hours only and ... united Ukraine (west and east) will rushing to build huge wall on the west borders...;)... Sorry for little OT. Its simply unbelievable... Pretty sure they'd build a wall against Russia regarding Muslim extremists. See, here in the West, there's a smaller number of them demanding this and that. Then there's Chechnya, a Russian republic. In Chechnya, Sharia law is definitely in place, and the current Chechnyan president openly defends honour killings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arttem 1 Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) People how you indentify cossacks? :butbut: ---------- Post added at 12:03 ---------- Previous post was at 11:32 ---------- You Russian houd really take a look at this whole Cossak thing. They are ultra nationalists, basically faschists (oh the irony) and your government grants them police rights.... (English wiki) Cossacks (Ukrainian: козакиÌ, koza'ky; Russian: ÐºÐ°Ð·Ð°ÐºÐ¸Ì [kÉ™zÉ'kʲi] or казаÌки [kÉ'zakʲi], kazaki), are a group of predominantly East Slavic people who became known as members of democratic, semi-military communities,[1] predominantly located in Ukraine and in Southern Russia. Edited April 23, 2014 by ArtTem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted April 23, 2014 Don´t go around quoting wikipedia -.- They are Ultra nationalists with fashist tendencies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arttem 1 Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Don´t go around quoting wikipedia -.- They are Ultra nationalists with fashist tendencies. Maybe you give some link to read about the facts? He is a fashist too? Edited April 23, 2014 by ArtTem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted April 23, 2014 I don´t even know who that is, but it is also irrelevant since the cossacks of today are a bit different from the historical ones. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/world/europe/cossacks-are-back-in-russia-may-the-hills-tremble.html?pagewanted=all http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/article/russias-nationalists-other-threat-sochi http://observers.france24.com/content/20131104-moscow-nationalist-march-immigration-skinheads http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/14/prorussian-militias-fill-vacuum-kiev-control-eastern-ukraine-slips Just look at what the cossack groups actually do, what their aims and beliefs are and what powers they are suddenly given. Ultra nationalist fashists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistyronin 1181 Posted April 23, 2014 Maybe you give some link to read about the facts?He is a fashist too? You mean him? Too me he's way worse than a fascist. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Nicholas_II_and_children_with_Cossacks_of_the_Guard.jpg (3710 kB) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sudayev 27 Posted April 23, 2014 Well some of these pictures are very questionable. Although I do think that russian cossacks are very much involved in this whole mess. Political tourists they call them.You Russian houd really take a look at this whole Cossak thing. They are ultra nationalists, basically faschists (oh the irony) and your government grants them police rights.... There is something from Warsaw 1944, where cossack collaborators they played their bloody role as well (this photo is known as "Putins father" :D). Nowadays you should say - provocateurs with uniforms bought in survival gear stores hehe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arttem 1 Posted April 23, 2014 I don´t even know who that is, but it is also irrelevant since the cossacks of today are a bit different from the historical ones. No problem. His name Nikolay. Nikolay the second, the last imperor of Russia. ---------- Post added at 12:37 ---------- Previous post was at 12:36 ---------- http://www.ukemonde.com/putin/putin-father-in-vlasov-army-b.jpghttp://www.revolucia.ru/putinvs3.jpg There is something from Warsaw 1944, where cossack collaborators they played their bloody role as well (this photo is known as "Putins father" :D). Nowadays you should say - provocateurs with uniforms bought in survival gear stores hehe He can not be a Putin father, just because it's a Ukrainian cossacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
