9/11 thread

[ran 0]

in the same time , finding the courage to run away from the building when you are 10 meters from the enterance is kinda brave , many people would stay petrified waiting for their own death

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Sep. 11 2002,20:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Sep. 11 2002,18:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">also some claimed that video of palestinians rejoicing the attakck was actually a CNN scheme to blame muslims, and they took out old Gulf War videos.(yeah right)<span id='postcolor'>

Actually a Swedish reporter team proved later that these pictures indeed were not kosher. The CNN crew didn't find any palestinans rejoicing, so they paid a group to celebrate. This was well documented with proof and witnesses and was broadcasted on most European news.<span id='postcolor'>

How gullable you all must be.

[theavonlady 2]

From Snopes:

Claim: CNN used old footage to fake images of 'Palestinians dancing in the street' after the terrorist attack on the USA.

Status: False.

Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2001]

All around the world we are subjected to 3 or 4 huge news distributors, and one of them - as you well know - is CNN. Very well, I guess all of you have been seeing (just as I've been) images from this company. In particular, one set of images called my attencion: the Palestinians celebrating the bombing, out on the streets, eating some cake and making funny faces for the camera. Well, THOSE IMAGES WERE SHOT BACK IN 1991!!! Those are images of Palestinians celebrating the invasion of Kuwait! It's simply unacceptable that a super-power of cumminications as CNN uses images which do not correspond to the reality in talking about so serious an issue. A teacher of mine, here in Brazil, has videotapes recorded in 1991, with the very same images; he's been sending emails to CNN, Globo (the major TV network in Brazil) and newspapers, denouncing what I myself classify as a crime against the public opinion. If anyone of you has access to this kind of files, serch for it. In the meanwhile, I'll try to 'put my hands' on a copy of this tape.

But now, think for a moment about the impact of such mages. Your people is hurt, emotionally fragile, and this kind broadcast have very high possibility of causing waves of anger and rage against Palestinians. It's simply irresponsible to show images such as those. Finally, I'd like to say that we all regret and condemn all that has happened in the last days; but Nikos has a point here. I really don't want to be misunderstood here, but the truth is that US government had shown no respect for other countries in the last decades. In the 60s and 70s they had halped lots of military coups throughout the world (including Brazil in 64). Later, with Reagan and Bush Father, the Washington Consensus have been demolishing the bases of our economies, making us more and more dependant (and, many of us, prehocupied with this situation).

Your current president quickly made things worse: Kioto Protocol, Star Wars, Colombia Plan, the exchange of rain forest for pieces of external debt, tha abandonment of the position of third party in negotiations between IRA and England, and between Palestinians and Israel. All those mistakes in US external politics made your country more hatred than before, and, of course, more vulnerable.

Origins: No, CNN did not air decade-old footage of Palestinians dancing in the streets. Eason Jordan, CNN's Chief News Executive, confirmed that the video used on CNN was in fact shot on Tuesday, 11 September 2001, in East Jerusalem by a Reuters TV crew, not during the Persian Gulf conflict of 1990-91 -- a fact proved by its inclusion of comments from a Palestinian praising Osama Bin Laden (whose name was unlikely to have come up ten years earlier in connection with the invasion and liberation of Kuwait) as well as the appearance in the video of post-1991 automobiles. The person who made the claim quoted above has since recanted.

(The argument that the footage CNN used could not possibly be real because it showed Palestinians in broad daylight not long after the attack -- even though Palestinian territory is several time zones ahead of New York -- is not valid. Eastern Daylight Time in the United States is six hours behind the area of the Middle East referred to as Palestine. Thus, when the first attack occurred in New York just before 90 A.M., Palestine time would have been 30 P.M., and the area would still have been bathed in plenty of mid-afternoon sunlight.)

Reuters, the international news agency whose camera crew shot the footage, issued the following statement:

Reuters rejects as utterly baseless an allegation being circulated by e-mail and the Internet claiming that it circulated 10-year-old videotape to illustrate Palestinians celebrating in the wake of the September 11 tragedies in the United States.

Reuters welcomes a statement by the Universidad Estatal de Campinas-Brasil (UNICAMP), one of whose students was the author of the original e-mail, setting the record straight.

The videotape in question was shot in East Jerusalem by a Reuters camera crew on September 11 in the immediate aftermath of the attacks on the United States. The footage was broadcast by CNN and other subscribers to the Reuters video news service.

statement:

There is absolutely no truth to the information that is now distributed on the Internet that CNN used 10-year-old video when showing the celebrating of some Palestinians in East Jerusalem after the terror attacks in the U.S. The video was shot that day by a Reuters camera crew. CNN is a client of Reuters and like other clients, received the video and broadcast it. Reuters officials have publicly made the facts clear as well.

The allegation is false. The source of the allegation has withdrawn it and apologized. It was started by a Brazilian student who now says he immediately posted a correction once he knew the information was not true. This is the statement by his university -- UNICAMP -- Universidad Estatal de Campinas-Brasil.

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OFFICIAL STATEMENT by Universidad de Campinas-Brasil

17/09/01

UNICAMP (Universidad Estatal de Campinas-Brasil) would like to announce that it has no knowledge of a videotape from 1991, whose images supposedly aired on CNN showing Palestinians celebrating the terrorist attacks in the U.S. The tape was supposedly from 1991, and there were rumors that the images were passed off as current.

This information was later denied, as soon as it proved false, by Márcio A. V. Carvalho, a student at UNICAMP. He approached the administration today, 17.09.2001, to clarify the following:

the information he got, verbally, was that a professor from another institution (not from UNICAMP) had the tape;

he sent the information to a discussion group e-mail list;

many people from this list were interested in the subject and requested more details;

he again contacted the person who first gave him the information and the person denied having the tape;

the student immediately sent out a note clarifying what happened to the people from his e-mail list.

The original message, however, was distributed all over the world, often with many distortions, including a falsified by-line article from the student. He affirms that a hacker attacked his domain. Several E-mails have been sent on his behalf and those dating from 15.09.2001 should be ignored.

Among the distortions is the fact that UNICAMP would be analyzing the tape, which is absolutely false. The administration considers this alert definitive and will be careful to avoid new rumors.

Certainly CNN wasn't the only news organization to report on the reaction of some Palestinians to the events of September 11, as other outlets such as Reuters and the Los Angeles Times carried the same story. Also, other news outlets such as and The Jerusalem Post reported that journalists were threatened for capturing images of Palestinian celebrations, making real footage of the event harder to obtain:

Palestinian Authority actions to confiscate film footage of Palestinians celebrating the terror attacks on the US were logical to prevent the media from painting the wrong picture of Palestinian sentiment, Bassam Abu Sharif, an adviser to PA Chairman Yasser Arafat.

"This was a normal preventive act . . . we don't want to give more to the Zionist propaganda which portrays all Palestinians as terrorists," he said. "The idea is that these people were not allowed to film, because a small group of people on film would represent the Palestinian people as a whole."

The footage was real. It's a shame, in fact, that its provenance was doubted because the lives of journalists who have attempted to capture similar acts on video have been threatened. That this tape made it out at all is a miracle. But CNN's reputation was besmirched by a single person, a Brazilian student who reported (without verification) that the footage in question actually came from a 1991 report on "Palestinians celebrating the invasion of Kuwait," a copy of which was in the possession of one of his teachers. (Actually, the invasion of Kuwait by Iraq took place in 1990, and it's unlikely anyone captured images of Palestinians "celebrating" that event. If CNN had used similar footage, it probably came from the Palestinian reaction to Iraq's launching of missiles at Israel during the Persian Gulf War in 1991.)

Subsequent rumors that the "Israeli Defense Agency" sent a film crew to hand out candy to Palestinians in order to induce them into staging a "celebration" for the cameras appear to be equally unfounded. However, this issue does emphasize a point that appears to have been overlooked in the debate over whether video was re-used from a previous year or not: that images themselves are not the whole story. A news report can be accompanied by stock footage and still be fair and accurate, but a news report accompanied by current footage is not necessarily either fair or accurate. A simple news clip doesn't always provide us with enough context to discern what the people depicted in it are reacting to, why they're reacting the way they are, or whether their actions are representative of a large group of people or a very small one, as an Italian journalist in Beirut reported:

Trying to find our bearings, my husband and I went into an American-style cafe in the Hamra district, near Rue Verdun, rated as one of the most expensive shopping streets in the world. Here the cognitive dissonance was immediate, and direct. The café's sophisticated clientele was celebrating, laughing, cheering and making jokes, as waiters served hamburgers and Diet Pepsi. Nobody looked shocked, or moved. They were excited, very excited.

An hour later, at a little market near the U.S. Embassy, on the outskirts of Beirut, a thrilled shop assistant showed us, using his hands, how the plane had crashed into the twin towers. He, too, was laughing.

Once back at the house where we were staying, we started scanning the international channels. Soon came reports of Palestinians celebrating. The BBC reporter in Jerusalem said it was only a tiny minority. Astonished, we asked some moderate Arabs if that was the case. "Nonsense," said one, speaking for many. "Ninety percent of the Arab world believes that Americans got what they deserved."

An exaggeration? Rather an understatement. A couple of days later, we headed north to Tripoli, near the Syrian border. On the way, we read that Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, who donated blood in front of the cameras, was rejecting any suggestion that his people were rejoicing over the terrorist attack. "It was less than 10 children in Jerusalem," he said.

[Othin 0]

I going into the squadron early that morning to start early on an ongoing project. I left my office for a bit and when I came back Peter Jennings (I think) was on the Rock & Roll station I listen to talking about a plane crash at the World Trade Center. I immediately went over to the Ready Room to see it on Television.

I've mentioned this before, but I'll never forget the feeling in that room. I stood among fighter pilots, and the feeling of helpless rage coming off them was palpable. I shared that feeling of rage, along with a feeling of soul deep sadness. When I heard that we had also lost shipmates and other men and women in uniform at the Pentagon it only deepened...

For me the most powerful images from 9/11, other then the footage of the crashes themselves, was the footage of the people lining up on the roads and cheering on the firemen, policemen, EMTs, and rescue workers. That always makes me smile in pride.

I won't forget Flight 93 either, as they showed what it is to be brave and make a sacrifice for others.

[bn880 5]

Wow, there was just an attempted hijacking on an American Air flight from Houston. Don't have any links yet.

Everything seems to be okay though.

2 hijackers, with folding knives were apprehanded. 2 air marshalls were on board. No reported injuries, aircraft returned and landed in Houston.

[ran 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Sep. 11 2002,21:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">9--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Sep. 11 2002,219)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">anybody seen the Nodet brothers's documentary yet ?<span id='postcolor'>

Actually, I am watching it right now.<span id='postcolor'>

hey , so they are right . it is diffused simultaneeously in 132 countries

[Assault (CAN) 1]

I was at school in my first period class when I heard about the attacks. Some students hooked up a T.V. in one of the equipment rooms and spread the news around. I got home at about 2:30 P.M. that day and flipped on the T.V. and no sooner did I turn it on, I saw my first view of the last tower collapsing. I still can't describe what I felt when I first saw that, I guess shock and disbelief would be appropriate.

Like everyone else I couldn't beleive the sight of two of the tallest buildings in the world collapsing, people running for thier lives, masses of people running like mad down streets as they were pursued by billowing clouds of smoke and dust, tens of thousands of people walking across the Brooklyn Bridge in a mass exodous of New York City, and part of the Pentagon in a burning and smoking ruin. It was like watching a scene from a movie, but it was real. I watched the news until about 12:30 A.M. I guess I had to watch it for a while so that all of the information could sink in.

Like 99.999 % of people on this planet, I experienced the whole event through the T.V., Radio, and the newspaper. Eventhough most of us never lost relatives or friends or even saw the event with our own eyes, we can't help but feel sadened and shocked by such a great loss of human life. I will re-post a link provided by Ex-Ronin:

WTC victims

I suggest that you guys scroll down the entire thing and think to yourself: Each and every one of those names represents a single human life, just like you or me. They all woke up that morning and did thier regular routine and left for work like they always did. None of them or thier family members expected that thier loved ones would not be coming home that night. On a day like this we should think of those 3000 people and the tens of thousands more who lost a husband, a wife, a brother, a daughter, a mother, a father, a best freind, and so on and not politicize the events of that day. Let's save the political 'mumbo-jumbo', the America-Bashing, and all that other garbage for the other 363 days of the year. This is a day for remembrance.

Tyler

[Warin 0]

I tidied up some rather pointless posts.

And I am VERY close to closing this thread!

[bn880 5]

I think everyone missed my post!!

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....5;st=30

DELETE this after mods... if u want.

[Guest]

Ok, Avon to comment on that long post of yours. I never claimed that the clips were fake or old footage. They were not; but they were arranged. That doesn't mean that no Palestinians celebrated, but that actual CNN footage was arranged for money.

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Sep. 11 2002,22:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok, Avon to comment on that long post of yours. I never claimed that the clips were fake or old footage. They were not; but they were arranged. That doesn't mean that no Palestinians celebrated, but that actual CNN footage was arranged for money.<span id='postcolor'>

No, they weren't arranged. They broke out spontaneiously in various PA cities and towns. There were clips from CNN, BBC and others. Please take my previous use of the word "gullable" as an understatement.

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Sep. 11 2002,15:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No we didn't but without any reference, of what use is it?<span id='postcolor'>

It's what's happeneing, news that co-relates to Spet 11th.

It's good use also, once ppl hear about it, they can search for sources.

U can watch CTV here, they have broadcast something already

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">javascript:playStreamingVideo('http://ctvbroadcast.ctv.ca/ctvlivehigh.asf','http://ctvbroadcast.ctv.ca/ctvlivelow.asf','http://www.ctv.ca')<span id='postcolor'>

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Sep. 11 2002,21:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Sep. 11 2002,22:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok, Avon to comment on that long post of yours. I never claimed that the clips were fake or old footage. They were not; but they were arranged. That doesn't mean that no Palestinians celebrated, but that actual CNN footage was arranged for money.<span id='postcolor'>

No, they weren't arranged. They broke out spontaneiously in various PA cities and towns. There were clips from CNN, BBC and others. Please take my previous use of the word "gullable" as an understatement.<span id='postcolor'>

Yes and Elvis is alive.

This was presented with full proof, witnesses etc etc

I can't be bothered to discuss things with you if you refuse to accept facts just because you don't like them.

[Assault (CAN) 1]

This thread is turning into another goddamn spam thread, save the personal arguments for other threads. I think the mods should go back and delete half of the messages here, including this one.

The purpose of this thread as stated by the original starter:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The purpose of this thread is simply to pay tribute to those who lost their lives and to those who helped save others a year ago, through WEB site links, pics and quotes.

<span id='postcolor'>

Save the bullshit (spam) and the conspiracy theories for other threads, if you have something to say, say it, but keep it meaningful.

Tyler

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Sep. 11 2002,21:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The purpose of this thread as stated by the original starter:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The purpose of this thread is simply to pay tribute to those who lost their lives and to those who helped save others a year ago, through WEB site links, pics and quotes.

<span id='postcolor'>

Save the bullshit (spam) and the conspiracy theories for other threads, if you have something to say, say it, but keep it meaningful.<span id='postcolor'>

You obviously missed my comment on that (although I agree with you on the spam):

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Sep. 11 2002,06:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you want to discuss pros and cons about anything having to do with 9.11, please do so on another thread. Thank you.<span id='postcolor'>

Although I understand and respect what your intention is with this thread Avon, I must disagree.

A thread without any form of discussion is quite pointless and goes against the idea of a forum. Just as we have one thread to discuss the problems in Israel, I see no need in having several threads on the 9/11 subject.

So this thread is open for discussions about the terrorist attacks that occured last year in NY and Wahington DC. I would like to remind you however to keep on-topic and be sensitive towards our Amercican friends for whom these events were a national tragedy.<span id='postcolor'>

Edit:

Ok. Thread cleaned of all irrelevant stuff. Don't spam.

[Assault (CAN) 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You obviously missed my comment on that <span id='postcolor'>

I was aware of it.

Just keeping with the original intent of the thread:

Images and sounds from Sept. 11th

Tyler

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Sep. 11 2002,22:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes and Elvis is alive.

This was presented with full proof, witnesses etc etc

I can't be bothered to discuss things with you if you refuse to accept facts just because you don't like them.<span id='postcolor'>

Yes, amd Reuters also handed out bullets in Gaza.

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Sep. 11 2002,22:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Wow, there was just an attempted hijacking on an American Air flight from Houston.  Don't have any links yet.

Everything seems to be okay though.

2 hijackers, with folding knives were apprehanded.  2 air marshalls were on board. No reported injuries, aircraft returned and landed in Houston.<span id='postcolor'>

False alarm.

[bn880 5]

Damn FBI... lol

Actually I thought it was 50/50, still I believe it was good to post for ppl to look into it.

[Pukko 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Sep. 11 2002,21:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Sep. 11 2002,22:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok, Avon to comment on that long post of yours. I never claimed that the clips were fake or old footage. They were not; but they were arranged. That doesn't mean that no Palestinians celebrated, but that actual CNN footage was arranged for money.<span id='postcolor'>

No, they weren't arranged. They broke out spontaneiously in various PA cities and towns. There were clips from CNN, BBC and others. Please take my previous use of the word "gullable" as an understatement.<span id='postcolor'>

These posts below by me can originally be found on page 58 of the mid east thread. It was not CNN in this case anyway, but AP and Reuter (Unfortionally the link is dead now, since they obviously have removed some old stuff at the SVT webbpage) :

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A Swedish 'media criticism' TV program showed the following in september regarding the celebrating Palestinians:

The celebrations by those Palestinians seen on 9/11 were taken the same day, but by a camera team asking (after driving around failing to find any celebrations) some palestinians in a bar and on the street to celebrate in front of the camera someting completely else than the WTC collapsing (I think what they said was related to USA in some way though).

The woman in black seen celbreating waving her arms and making this 'indian shout' was interviewed in this program. She had no TV of her own, but when she saw in what context the pictures on her celebrating was used in media at some friends she felt sick, she said. She had no idea what had happened in the USA when the pictures was taken and was used by media in an awful way. <span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I found a realplayer clip of it at the program 'Mediemagasinet' homepage at the SVT webbsite. Its mostly in Swedish though:

Click on modem or bredband (broadband) on the 'Historien om en bild' line, 3:rd from top in the right column

The celebrating womans name is Fatma Hussein. She were selling vegetables when the reporters arrived.

The news agencies were Reuter and AP standing shoulder to shoulder taking the pictures.

<span id='postcolor'>

[bogo 0]

Is there a site out there with the nationalaty of the vitims of 9/11?

[edc 0]

I was in 2nd hour and the radio was on.  I wasn't paying that close attention to it.  I heard something about exlosion at WTC, and thought they were talking about the '93 bombing.  I realised my mistake when I started listening closer.  When one the towers collased was when, I knew that this was going to be horrible.  I also heard something about a carbomb at the State Department, what happen there?  

   Me nor my parents knoew anyone who was killed, but a friend of my parents daughter was a flight attendent with American, and was like the backup flight attendant for the flight that hit the Pentagon.  She was a Reagan Intl. (I think) and saw the smoke from it after it hit.

[AdmiralKarlDonuts 0]

When I first heard of the terrorist attacks, my classmates and I had just come back inside from a game of football at school.  As we were getting changed back into regular clothes for the rest of the day, guys started seeing text messages on their cell phones about a plane hitting the WTC.  We thought it must have been some accident at first, but over the next fwe minutes we managed to get to a TV, where at least 40 of us stood transfixed watching the footage on MSNBC.  As the plane hit the tower over and over again there were muttered curses and gasps from all around the room.  The teacher didn't seem to notice as someone loudly said "those motherf*ckers!".  We all just stared.

As the day went on we kept hearing rumors of other attacks as we went from class to class.  Somone said they'd hit Camp David, someone else said they hit the NY State House.  Most of them were false reports, but we got more and more riled up anyway.  At the end of the day, kids stood in the cafeteria watching the news, yes, the news, something kids never do at school.  Nobody said anything, but we watched as the anchors described the flight of Air Force One around the country and the scrambling of fighters from different Air Force bases.  It was incredible that everything stopped that day.  None of the teachers taught anything else, and frankly nobody cared.  

I think the biggest crime I've seen in the rememberance of the 11th, at least in my school community, is the lack of rememberance of the guys over in Afghanistan who put their lives on the line for us.  The war may be winding down now, but in those first few months, the danger was clear and present for all of them.  I don't want to let this day go by without paying tribute to them, as everyone should.  

In particular let's keep in mind Neal C. Roberts, a Navy SEAL who was knocked out of a Chinook in a hot LZ and captured by the Taliban fighters.  He was thrown from the chopper as it took fire and his absence went unnoticed for a few minutes as they all checked themselves for injuries and battled to get the chopper out of harm's way.  A Predator UAV near the LZ spotted him and witnessed his execution minutes later.  He was shot in the head at close range by his captors, hands tied behind his back.

His story is one of the few failures of "leave no man behind."

I hope to God it never happens again.

So, on this day, let's not forget how a small band of terrorists can strike us a hard blow.  Let's not forget that their plan of dividing us and sending us into chaos backfired completely, as we all banded together to strike back and stand tall.  Let's not forget our friends overseas who stand with us in this.  Let's not forget those firefighters and policemen who made the ultimate sacrifice for people they didn't and would never know.  And lastly, let's not forget our servicemen, both American and foreign, who are fighting to eradicate those responsible for these acts.  I salute the British, the Canadians, and everyone else who fights alongside us.

Never forget September 11th, and never forget what we made of it.

[Placebo 29]

Peace and love to all who suffered on the day the world died.

[Sam Samson 0]

I was in the tip of southern india last year when some buddies knocked on my door and told me to flip on bbc-worldnews: somebody had just slammed two passenger planes into the WTC.

I had no explanation.

neither did any of the other guys.

well. since then afghanistan has after 23 years of war become a country with a fair shot at development.

al quaida and most of its operatives are rendered ineffective.

the US has realized that the new threat after fascism and communism is worldwide wahhabi islamic terror and fights it.

the victims paid for this with their blood.

the US also has to look inward and search for the causes of why this judgment befell us.

I just want to salute the victims of 911, especially the brave men who put up a fight over pennsylvania, becoming the very first to fight this new wave of terror.

this fate could have befallen you or me just as well.

their sacrifice was not in vain.

thanks also to all who stood with america in this hour one year ago and still.

God bless America,

and every faithful soul.