European space agency

[ran 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,17:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 29 2002,17:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">see, i told you.

you guys are not decisince as NASA!    and UK and France in harmony...what could be more contradictory...

j/k  <span id='postcolor'>

We might as well be in disharmony together as apart.

European space can work! Just give it the money!<span id='postcolor'>

and the french engineers will do it ...........

[ralphwiggum 6]

i'll just throw in a soccerball.

i mean football

herer you go boys

england can beat any EU nations in football. so i think paratrooper deserves to have this on his sig

[ran 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 29 2002,17:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i'll just throw in a soccerball.

i mean football <span id='postcolor'>

*BANG BANG BANG*(three rounds famas burst )

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Aug. 28 2002,18:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 29 2002,17:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i'll just throw in a soccerball.

i mean football <span id='postcolor'>

*BANG BANG BANG*(three rounds famas burst    )<span id='postcolor'>

Wow, right in the kisser.

Great shot!

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

You are wrong, any EU country can kick France's arse, thats what its all about... tyhose arrogant frnechs

they got good food though.

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Aug. 29 2002,17:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 29 2002,17:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i'll just throw in a soccerball.

i mean football <span id='postcolor'>

*BANG BANG BANG*(three rounds famas burst    )<span id='postcolor'>

*BANG BANG CLICK* Three round SA80 burst!

[ran 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,17:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">*BANG BANG CLICK* Three round SA80 burst!<span id='postcolor'>

LOL

i don't even wanna imagine what full auto is

[ralphwiggum 6]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,17:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">*BANG BANG CLICK* Three round SA80 burst!<span id='postcolor'>

LOL!!!!!!

*pop, pop, pop* Ralph shoots back with his .22 Ruger

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Aug. 29 2002,17:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,17:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">*BANG BANG CLICK* Three round SA80 burst!<span id='postcolor'>

LOL

i don't even wanna imagine what full auto is <span id='postcolor'>

There actually isn't a three round mode.

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 29 2002,17:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,17:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">*BANG BANG CLICK* Three round SA80 burst!<span id='postcolor'>

LOL!!!!!!

         

*pop, pop, pop*  Ralph shoots back with his .22 Ruger<span id='postcolor'>

Too bad for you the British soldier hits with his firt shot!

[ran 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,17:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Aug. 29 2002,17:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,17:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">*BANG BANG CLICK* Three round SA80 burst!<span id='postcolor'>

LOL

i don't even wanna imagine what full auto is <span id='postcolor'>

There actually isn't a three round mode.<span id='postcolor'>

lol sure , it can't fire three rounds without jamming hehehehe

[ralphwiggum 6]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,17:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 29 2002,17:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,17:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">*BANG BANG CLICK* Three round SA80 burst!<span id='postcolor'>

LOL!!!!!!

         

*pop, pop, pop*  Ralph shoots back with his .22 Ruger<span id='postcolor'>

Too bad for you the British soldier hits with his firt shot!  <span id='postcolor'>

you shot my glue containter! now it's personal!

[ran 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 29 2002,17:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,17:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 29 2002,17:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,17:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">*BANG BANG CLICK* Three round SA80 burst!<span id='postcolor'>

LOL!!!!!!

         

*pop, pop, pop*  Ralph shoots back with his .22 Ruger<span id='postcolor'>

Too bad for you the British soldier hits with his firt shot!  <span id='postcolor'>

you shot my glue containter! now it's personal!  <span id='postcolor'>

<span id='ME'><center>ran prepares his anti-personnel rifle grenade</center></span>

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 28 2002,18:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,17:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 29 2002,17:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,17:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">*BANG BANG CLICK* Three round SA80 burst!<span id='postcolor'>

LOL!!!!!!

         

*pop, pop, pop*  Ralph shoots back with his .22 Ruger<span id='postcolor'>

Too bad for you the British soldier hits with his firt shot!  <span id='postcolor'>

you shot my glue containter! now it's personal!  <span id='postcolor'>

Go get him Ralph!

[Othin 0]

I don't think NASA is really anything special. They've continually pissed away any chances they've had to really make a difference in Science and exploration. Most Americans see the NASA of today as either a Taxi or a black hole that money disapears down. The X33 tanked, and I don't think there is currently a replacement in the works. Their efforts at exploring the solar system have been admirable, but their credibility was hurt with the numeric misjudgement of the Mars explorer.

The ISS is more a political maneuver then an outpost in space in my opinion. I don't think a "space race" between Europe and the United States would really do any good. I think the future of space lies in privitation. Lets leave all this nationalism back on Earth.

Of course if Europeans want a space shuttle, you can always do like the Russians and copy ours. Do a google search for the Buran space shuttle, the similarities are amazing. That is just me being facetious though, as the shuttle design is aging and expensive to maintain.

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Othin @ Aug. 29 2002,20:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't think NASA is really anything special.  They've continually pissed away any chances they've had to really make a difference in Science and exploration.  Most Americans see the NASA of today as either a Taxi or a black hole that money disapears down.  The X33 tanked, and I don't think there is currently a replacement in the works.  Their efforts at exploring the solar system have been admirable, but their credibility was hurt with the numeric misjudgement of the Mars explorer.

The ISS is more a political maneuver then an outpost in space in my opinion.  I don't think a "space race" between Europe and the United States would really do any good.  I think the future of space lies in privitation.  Lets leave all this nationalism back on Earth.

Of course if Europeans want a space shuttle, you can always do like the Russians and copy ours.  Do a google search for the Buran space shuttle, the similarities are amazing.  That is just me being facetious though, as the shuttle design is aging and expensive to maintain.<span id='postcolor'>

A space race is exactly what is need to revitalise space exploration, otherwise there is no motivation or more importantly money!

As for the shuttles looking similar, you might as well say the SU-35 is a copy of the Me109 because they both have wings!

[Othin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,12:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As for the shuttles looking similar, you might as well say the SU-35 is a copy of the Me109 because they both have wings!<span id='postcolor'>

ME-109

SU-35

Hmmm....

US Space Shuttle

Russian Buran

[Paratrooper 0]

Yes the shuttles are similar but that is what a shuttle looks like!

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,15:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes the shuttles are similar but that is what a shuttle looks like!<span id='postcolor'>

That's a good one.

I think the EU space agency could equal NASA achievements but only if Britiain agreed to never use the Imperial system in the agancy. No need to lose billions of Euros on wrong calculations.

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Aug. 29 2002,21:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think the EU space agency could equal NASA achievements but only if Britiain agreed to never use the Imperial system in the agancy.  No need to lose billions of Euros on wrong calculations.  <span id='postcolor'>

Don't worry Britain has given up Imperial measurements. By EU law infact. But it doesn't bother me as I was brought up on the metric system.

[moerty 0]

i think most of our space exploration to date has been useless media stunts. if we (humans) were truly serious about space we would be experimenting on things that would advance our infrastructure out there, such as metallurgy, foundries and the posibillities of unmanned factories, rock crushers etc.. all based in space. until this type of research becomes common place in say, space stations, any talk of space is just a fantasy, ungrounded in reality.

[Othin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,12:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A space race is exactly what is need to revitalise space exploration, otherwise there is no motivation or more importantly money!<span id='postcolor'>

I think the privitation of space would be far more motivating then a space race between Nations. Right now companies have to go through a government to get their satelites or equipment into space. If you had private companies doing it, the prices would come down and you would start seeing alot more innovation on the "space ships" themselves as people try to find ways to do it cheaper and better. The cutting out of burecracy will be the biggest boon to the expansion of private companies into space.

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,15:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Aug. 29 2002,21:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think the EU space agency could equal NASA achievements but only if Britiain agreed to never use the Imperial system in the agancy. No need to lose billions of Euros on wrong calculations. <span id='postcolor'>

Don't worry Britain has given up Imperial measurements. By EU law infact. But it doesn't bother me as I was brought up on the metric system.<span id='postcolor'>

Hmm, I had no idea of this, just shows you how isolated you can become in North America.

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Aug. 29 2002,22:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 29 2002,15:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Aug. 29 2002,21:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think the EU space agency could equal NASA achievements but only if Britiain agreed to never use the Imperial system in the agancy.  No need to lose billions of Euros on wrong calculations.  <span id='postcolor'>

Don't worry Britain has given up Imperial measurements. By EU law infact. But it doesn't bother me as I was brought up on the metric system.<span id='postcolor'>

Hmm, I had no idea of this, just shows you how isolated you can become in North America.  <span id='postcolor'>

It certainly does, and if your government carries along in the same vein for many more years America will be totally isolated from the rest of the world.

[Warin 0]

Commercialization of space is needed far more than nationalistic competition. What a monumental waste it would be to duplicate efforts in some sort of competition! Throw billions of dollars in development instead of building an already proven (if somewhat aging) platform. Or better yet, combine efforts with NASA to develop a new launch platform. The X-33 showed a lot of promise before the boneheads in the US government killed it in a total bout of shortsightedness.

Mankind needs to get its act together and work together!