ASDG Joint Rails

[EricJ 724]

Also as far as the groups for the default weapons.... That's going to cause issues for some people (possibly me so I have a personal issue with it) as I've set some people up with "tuned" ammo for the TRG-21 and that's going to cause some problems. But that's how I feel on that matter anyway. Then again I can just post the ammo here:

CfgMagazines
class TAR21mk318_mag: 30Rnd_556x45_Stanag
{
	ammo="ej_B_mk318tar";
	displayNameShort="Mk318";
	displayname="TAR-21 Mk318 30-round Magazine";
	initspeed=857.0976;
	lastroundstracer=5;
	scope=2;
	mass=8;
};
class TAR21mk262_mag: 30Rnd_556x45_Stanag
{
	ammo="ej_B_mk262tar";
	displayNameShort="Mk262";
	displayname="TAR-21 Mk262 30-round Magazine";
	initspeed=765.04797;
	lastroundstracer=5;
	scope=2;
	mass=8;
};
class TAR21m855a1_mag: 30Rnd_556x45_Stanag
{
	ammo="ej_B_m855a1tar";
	displayNameShort="M855A1";
	displayname="TAR-21 M855A1 30-round Magazine";
	initspeed=862.58398;
	lastroundstracer=5;
	mass=8;
};

Cfg Ammo part:

class ej_B_mk318tar: B_556x45_Ball
{
	hit=9.8823156;
	typicalSpeed=937.09357;
	airFriction=-0.0011705513;
	caliber=0.755;
	deflecting=18;
	visibleFire=3;
	audibleFire=5.5;
	model="\A3\Weapons_f\Data\bullettracer\tracer_red";
	nvgonly=0;
	tracerendtime=1;
	tracerscale=1;
	tracerstarttime=0.050000001;
};
class ej_B_m855a1tar: B_556x45_Ball
{
	hit=8.442853;
	typicalSpeed=941.87775;
	airFriction=-0.0011551528;
	caliber=0.85500002;
	deflecting=21;
	visibleFire=3.0999999;
	audibleFire=6;
	model="\A3\Weapons_f\Data\bullettracer\tracer_red";
	nvgonly=0;
	tracerendtime=1;
	tracerscale=1;
	tracerstarttime=0.050000001;
};
class ej_B_mk262tar: B_556x45_Ball
{
	hit=11.350416;
	typicalSpeed=852.17511;
	airFriction=-0.0011074429;
	caliber=0.61500001;
	deflecting=15;
	visibleFire=2.6500001;
	audibleFire=5;
	model="\A3\Weapons_f\Data\bullettracer\tracer_red";
	nvgonly=0;
	tracerendtime=1;
	tracerscale=1;
	tracerstarttime=0.050000001;
};

Edited May 20, 2015 by EricJ

[Defunkt 431]

If this new addon is to be ASDG_JAM (Joint Ammunition & Magazines) I vote JointRails becomes ASDG_JAR (Joint Accessories & Rails).

JAM JAR!

[lukrop 10]

Regarding the ACE advanced ballistic values. I think we should be good by just inheriting from B_556x45_Ball (for example) at least regarding the ammo values. ACE defines them there already. But I guess it needs ace_ballistics in requiredAddons though. :/

Edited May 21, 2015 by lukrop

[Defunkt 431]

But I guess it needs ace_ballistics in requiredAddons though. :/

Don't really see the need to consider ACE because ideally I think this should be a dependency of theirs (or, perhaps more likely, Robalo and they share the same config file), makes sense to me if Spartan is the source either way. But ACE can just super-class these with additional config entries.

[Robalo 465]

No worries as the AI values are set on the modes and not the ammo anyway. Yeah once you post the update (I assume it'll be with Joint Rails?, i.e. in the same PBO?) I'll move some of my weapons to that as well.

There are lots of AI related properties in cfgAmmo which I will try to avoid touching here and instead inherit from vanilla superclasses so they can be modded elsewhere:

audibleFire

visibleFire

dangerRadiusBulletClose

dangerRadiusHit

suppressionRadiusBulletClose

suppressionRadiusHit

JAM will be separate from JR

---------- Post added at 13:59 ---------- Previous post was at 13:58 ----------

Also as far as the groups for the default weapons.... That's going to cause issues for some people (possibly me so I have a personal issue with it) as I've set some people up with "tuned" ammo for the TRG-21 and that's going to cause some problems. But that's how I feel on that matter anyway.

Hmm, no, that would defeat the consistency purpose of this addon.

[EricJ 724]

No worries, I just don't want to screw some people over given you're setting up ammo settings for the vanilla weapons but then again I think I'll be good anyway.

[Spartan0536 188]

I have worked with the visible and audiblefire settings however I am not 100% certain that they are set for a "per meter" range 0.01 = 1 meter but that was my educated guess.

[ruPal 143]

Have this error in rpt:

Conflicting addon asdg_jointmuzzles in 'asdg_jointrails\', previous definition in 'asdg_jointmuzzles\'

Please fix.

[jonpas 290]

Have this error in rpt:

Please fix.

Joint Muzzles are integrated into Joint Rails now, remove old Joint Muzzles.

[Robalo 465]

Yeah, from first post:

ASDG Joint Muzzles - deprecated, integrated into JointRails since 0.13

[ruPal 143]

Thank you and sorry. Didn't find any info about that on armaholic.

[Robalo 465]

RFC

Was wondering whether I should add another rail for the machineguns, to be able to easily blacklist the longer scopes.

[EricJ 724]

Weapons like the 240 and 249 don't have that much "space" to go "long" IRL. Even then it's not truly monolithic like rifles so given the normal config values (which seem to work just as good) it really shouldn't matter.

[Robalo 465]

I mean even if the rail would permit mounting a long scope you would not do it IRL if it would block the belt feed and you'd have to remove the scope to be able to reload. Anyway I'll add the rail class.

[EricJ 724]

Yeah gotcha

[ooster 1]

Latest ArmA 3 update causes an issue with Virtual Arsenal and Marksmen DLC.

Bi-pod selection is stuck. What I mean by that is the icon for selecting bi-pods constantly shows while creating load-outs in VA no matter what gear category is selected. It is also inoperable when trying to add bi-pods to your custom load-outs.

[Robalo 465]

Latest ArmA 3 update causes an issue with Virtual Arsenal and Marksmen DLC.

Bi-pod selection is stuck. What I mean by that is the icon for selecting bi-pods constantly shows while creating load-outs in VA no matter what gear category is selected. It is also inoperable when trying to add bi-pods to your custom load-outs.

Can't repro this, working fine here.

[ooster 1]

Can't repro this, working fine here.

That's interesting, even while running the mod on it's own without extra configs it does this for me.

Going to reinstall my game

Edited June 9, 2015 by OOster

[ooster 1]

Update on bi-pod VA issue with the new update if anyone else has the same issue. (Fixed)

I deleted all the mod files and reinstalled from the files posted in this thread and not from Armaholic. Which seemed to have fixed it. Very interesting error I guess, perhaps just a bad install on my end after I updated this mod last? idk, still confused how this could have happened.

[EricJ 724]

I download JR from Armaholic and haven't had the issue you describe even when I enabled/disabled the mod when on the new patch.

[John Kozak 14]

Update on bi-pod VA issue with the new update if anyone else has the same issue. (Fixed)

I deleted all the mod files and reinstalled from the files posted in this thread and not from Armaholic. Which seemed to have fixed it. Very interesting error I guess, perhaps just a bad install on my end after I updated this mod last? idk, still confused how this could have happened.

You need to always delete old version when updating a mod manually. True, most times it works fine, but when it does not, you regret not cleaning it :-)

[lazerstrike 10]

Im having an issue where if I have ASDG enabled I can attach optics to 3rd party weapons but I can no longer attach optics to vanilla ones. I have to disable the mod in order to be able to run any optics on a MX for example. Anyone else having this issue?

[haleks 8206]

Im having an issue where if I have ASDG enabled I can attach optics to 3rd party weapons but I can no longer attach optics to vanilla ones. I have to disable the mod in order to be able to run any optics on a MX for example. Anyone else having this issue?

Nope, everything's working fine here.

A list of the addons you used would help us to help you though.

[EricJ 724]

Same here, no issues.

[lazerstrike 10]

Nope, everything's working fine here.

A list of the addons you used would help us to help you though.

A3MP

ACE 3

CBA

ASR AI3

Babe-Mid tex

BC-Phoenix, Skies, Tracers

CAF AG + audio patch

CJTF_IR strobe

DEditor_v12

DragonFyre

FHQ_accessories + M4s

MCC

SBE USMC

ST_stamina bar

Sud russians

Super_flash

Vas mod