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Basically there are too many unfinished areas in the current sound engine and add into the mix peoples rigs for me to start messing with volumes, i go by my set up:

1. then how does JSRS not have this issue?

2. This is a major issue, in an Arma game if I can't hear mortars going off 200m away. That is a serious problem with a sound mod. If you fixed this issue it would be absolutely better than JSRS.

BTW that is a very irregular setup to use to base your mod's compatibility off of. It was bound to cause big problems. Your sounds are crisp and realistic. Now you just need to focus and getting the distance and volume systems to work consistently.

Edited by FrankDaTank1218

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I added blood

Jesus - wondered where the hell they came from!! lol Switched recently from JSRS and thought??? pretty sure i did'nt add a blood mod or something lol :cool:

Btw loving the stuff soo far, especially the distant firefights.

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Arma 2 I will forever use JSRS. I did use JSRS in A3 however leaning way more towards SOS. I don't want to compare as they are both good in there different ways, however for me I like the realistic feel SOS gives over JSRS. JSRS to me is a sound mod for the game where as the SOS feels like a realistic sound mod for the game, if that makes sense.

Still, both good :) Looking forward to future updates Bigpickle and great job so far.

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all this talk about how SOS is better then JSRS. I have to disagree.. JSRS was the first sound mod to add distance variables, and in room sounds, and other effects.. JSRS IS #1.. All other are simply following the leader, but remember "Imitation is the highest form of flattery". SOS is great please DONT GET ME WRONG HERE.... however, my previous statements still stand. (although i could be wrong about it being the first with implementing different sounds based on distance?- i have been wrong before)

That being said I am VERY glad the old sounds have been replaced, I TOTALLY enjoy the different sounds (no more clangy echo with every gunshot). I'll run JSRS one day and SOS the next. I like the change up! I like the plethora of bullet cracks and the punchy grenade sounds in SOS. The same with JSRS, the bullet cracks , the explosions. its all GRAVY.

On that note i have noticed that some sounds need a little tweaking in the volume. but outside that this mod is GREAT.. it offers a different and welcome atmosphere to ARMA.

One thing that i dont understand is that fucking whistle. it comes out of nowhere and often scares the shit out of me.. It sounds like its right next to me ... and theres no one there.. It just doesnt make ANY sense to me. But hey beggers cannot be choosers!!

Thank You BigPickle for ALL your/your teams hard work. I totally appreciate everything you have done with this mod and certainly hope that you dont take my comments to heart just like the others i am simply stating my opinion and nothing more.

Thanks!

Edited by Lordprimate

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all this talk about how SOS is better then JSRS. I have to disagree.. JSRS was the first sound mod to add distance variables, and in room sounds, and other effects.. JSRS IS #1.. All other are simply following the leader, but remember "Imitation is the highest form of flattery".

You can actually thank tpM for kicking off this trend.

Anyway, the flyby effect is probably the least scripted sounding implementation I've seen, so that's pretty cool.

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You can actually thank tpM for kicking off this trend.

took the words right out of my mouth. some people give too much credit to JSRS.

all this SOS vs JSRS talk is beginning to annoy me

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took the words right out of my mouth. some people give too much credit to JSRS.

all this SOS vs JSRS talk is beginning to annoy me

No offense, but how do you think it makes the creators feel as well. It's nice hearing some praise and such, but this whole battle over who is better is utter bullshit that gets on the nerves of those of us who work on said projects. We don't do it to out-do one another, we do it for ourselves and to share with the community to enjoy, period. It's not about competition.

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Constructive Criticism...the MH/AH littlebird and the Blackhawk sounds don't match the airframes...the AH-99 sounds amazing! Anything with 5+ blades on the main rotor should basically buzz through the sky...they currently sound like they have 2-3 blades...

Overall this is a GREAT addition to anybody's game!!! Excellent work! You should be proud of yourself.

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I think it's only the outdoor rotor wash on the liitlebird that sounds different...god that ah99 sounds angry!!

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Big thx for this great work!! Things you might consider fixing:

-Explosions sounds are very low , near and far ones.

-Bullets hitting near has low sound.

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Glad people are enjoying it but I have to say this..

To mirror what myself and Yokhanan have already said before.

Firstly this is is not a competition between mods, this is a community.

I make my mod my way for me and choose to share with it with you and I will not change anything unless I want to change it.

If you don't like my mod do not post here just to tell me you don't like it, all that does is create a negativity bandwagon.

Playing the mod is just the tail end of the work, for me the real pleasure is in the audio recording working etc. Making this mod ties up my home life and free time of which I have very little anyway, I'm sure that goes for every other mod maker in the community, the last thing I and others want to read is the crap that's been going on here.

If it keeps happening I'll ask for the thread to be locked ... again, but this time I'll only have it unlocked for me to post any updates.

It would be a great shame for that to happen but its better than some forum users creating possible tension between mod makers.

Edited by Bigpickle

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Been giving SOS a try again...gotta say it has improved greatly from the earlier pre-releases. :) I still notice that incoming fire is quite hard to pinpoint...not sure if it is due to bullet cracks being so loud or distance sounds not being loud enough. Either way it is extremely difficult to determine the direction of fire.

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First of all: This sound mod is soooo awesome. Good work! Especially the Jet-flyby made me having goose pimples, really. wooo-haaa! So immersive!

I still notice that incoming fire is quite hard to pinpoint...not sure if it is due to bullet cracks being so loud or distance sounds not being loud enough. Either way it is extremely difficult to determine the direction of fire.

Same for me. Maybe you want to get more into this. For gameplay (PvP) reasons. Especially enemy firing indoor in towns are really hard to spot. I use 7.1 Headphones and dont have such problems using vanilla.

Keep up this great work, man!

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Great job on this mod. Its really immersing me in the firefight, especially the whole feeling of beeing udner fire is just awesome. I have one question though, do you plan by any chance to extend your work on sounds to other mods, such as nato russians weapons mod? Or recent great mod adding insurgents to arma (aggressors mod) ? :). Im just curious, because i d like to use speed of sound, but it feels a bit weird when playing with mentioned mods, as they use jsrs sounds, that have diffrent feeling. No problem if thats our of scope of this mod :)

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some really wonderful sounds here...very fun & immersive! A big thank you for spending so many hours of work bringing this to us!!

On a side note....are you aware that the sound mod spams alot of .rpt erros in your log?...check your logs folks, as they're probably growing larger :-)

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some really wonderful sounds here...very fun & immersive! A big thank you for spending so many hours of work bringing this to us!!

On a side note....are you aware that the sound mod spams alot of .rpt erros in your log?...check your logs folks, as they're probably growing larger :-)

Whilst I'm sure there are sos errors I think you'll find its mostly animation and island errors, in comparison sos errors are quite minimal to game errors.

-nologs added to your launch params will stop rpt logging

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I'm getting an error with RH's M4 "sound _SCOPE not found", is it related to SoS? and a "sound "_FPV2 not found" one

Edited by sorophx

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-nologs added to your launch params will stop rpt logging

THIS 1000% the best way to speed up your MP is to fix this WHY this isn't on by default is anyone's guess, as 90% of people complaining about jerky laggy gameplay can fix it by adding this parameter to their load line. Most launchers will so this for you too if you look hard enough... RECOMMENDED

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Whilst I'm sure there are sos errors I think you'll find its mostly animation and island errors, in comparison sos errors are quite minimal to game errors.

-nologs added to your launch params will stop rpt logging

Whilst I'm sure there are sos errors I think you'll find its mostly animation and island errors, in comparison sos errors are quite minimal to game errors.

I'm not talking about the BIS errors...im talking about the SOS related errors such as:

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These 180 lines were spammed by SoS within just the first 3 minutes of mission play...after a few HOURS you can imagine how big it gets, not to mention days/weeks/months later. I know how to turn off logging, but 95% of people do NOT know anything about it (this of course is BIS's fault by leaving it on by default which is what you do when youre in Alpha, not retail release...but thats another BIS management issue).

I understand that BIS leaves errors unattended...but that's no example to follow...wasn't looking for justification as I know how difficult it can be to work out ALL rpt errors...just wanted to report them because im sure the author would want to nip them.

Again..thanks for this...truly appreciated!

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hmm. Are you sure those are SOS sounds, I can't see them anywhere in the mod ? Could be BIS sounds playing up ?

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simply check this yourself to know...startup arma3 with sos disabled and play for a few minutes and check your rpt...do you see the errors above? (you shouldnt). close arma3 and restart with sos enabled, play for a few minutes and check the rpt again...see the above errors?

Also forgot to mention there are also lots of "radio protocol" type .rpt errors being spammed by SoS.

Edited by BigShot

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the radio protocol may throw a few as i'm in the process of modding the sounds for the radio's but i havent changed and actual speech.

Cannot load sound 'a3\dubbing_radio_f\data\male09\10.wss'

Look at the file path, if it was sos then generally it would have a sos file path not an arma path but I will non the less take a look into this and fix it if it needs it with the next update after "win" comes out.

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From my own experience an error like this is typically due to a change that BIS has made due to their patching, and not necessarily any mistake or changes that YOU have made yourself. I would take a look at their spotrep #00019 and see what changes they have made that relate to sounds. Often the error that gets thrown in the .rpt is not a direct hint where the trouble is, but can often be a all too vague hint that is only indirectly related to what needs to be changed in the script. They certainly never make things easy for modders in this respect. Welcome to the world of Arma :-)

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