Ammo for a cz/vz52

[Demagor 0]

This is SO frustrating!

I have a Czech Cz/Vz52.  She's in very good condition (though not quite mint), and I am SO in love with her. The only problem is ammo; basically my inability to find any.  

I have about 2 boxes left of NORINCO 7.62mmx25. It's the brass-colored rounds, wraped in intertwined narrow brown paper. I want to take it to the range and all, but being so low, I'm not sure I want to waste what I have.

I once found some Italian ammo that "claimed" the same caliber, but no dice... the first round jammed in the chamber.  It was a bitch to get out.

Anyone know where I can get my hands on some?  I've attended the last 3 Gun Conventions in town, but no one had any.

Help would be appreciated...

[Harnu 0]

Maybe go to a gun store near you? Or where you got the gun. They should have some ammo.

[Mister Frag 0]

You could try Ammoman -- if he doesn't have it, he can probably get it or find a source for it.

[Mister Frag 0]

Quality Cartridge definitely has it available. They also have this little beauty:

.223 Timbs

!!!!!!THESE LOADS ARE INTENDED ONLY FOR THE CZ-52 PISTOL!!!!!!

The .223 Timbs is the result of a co-development between Quality Cartridge and Joseph Timbs. It is the American answer to the proprietary .224 BOZ, bringing the CZ-52 into the new millenium. The .223 Timbs is a special loading of the 7.62x25 round for use only in the CZ-52 pistol. It consists of a sabot like the Remington "Accelerator" pushing a 55gr bullet over 2000fps. Concept was for devastating multi-purpose round, useable for small game, varmits, and defense. Accuracy has proven to be on-par with traditional rounds fired from the same pistol, and terminal ballistics are quite impressive with initial tests showing devastating expansion from the varmit-type bullets.

[USSoldier11B 0]

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WOW! That is screaming for a pistol round. My high velocity 135gr .40 S&W Cor-Bon ammo goes about 1325 fps and that is good. But 2000 fps? That's a damn rifle round.

[Mister Frag 0]

Keep in mind that the .223 Timbs is pushing only a standard 55gr bullet, so the velocity is quite low for that bullet, and as we all know, it doesn't fragment at such a low velocity. The usefulness is thus questionable.

[USSoldier11B 0]

Make it a jacketed hollow point round and watch it blow out exit wounds the size of pancakes.

[R. Gerschwarzenge 0]

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Ouch. That's going to leave a mark.

[Demagor 0]

Mr. Frag : Thanks for the feedback/leads.  I'll look into them and post what I find out.  I appreciate your help.

Lemme ask you, though... would you happen to know if those Norinco rounds are still attainable?  They seemed to function well and were satisfactorably accurate.  They were a tad costly, but that's compared to my BrowningHP (9mm) ammo, which has more versions of inexpensive shoot-away rounds than Pamela Anderson has had boob-jobs!

Harnu : I've tried several gun shops near me, and no one stocks it. I purchased the gun at a local Gun Convention nearly 10 years ago, and the handful of conventions I've visited since have turned up no results. The original gun shop that I bought it from (that had a booth at the convention) is no longer in business.

[Mister Frag 0]

I haven't seriously looked for those rounds, so I don't know if they are still available. Ammoman could tell you, he's very knowledgable and helpful.

Also, the importation of most surplus ammunition has been banned, which was aimed squarely at Norinco -- I don't know if they still bother trying to do business in this country. If there is any of the ammo left you are looking for, it might be sitting in a warehouse somewhere collecting dust, and hard to find.

[ralphwiggum 6]

Demagor, probably you should start thinking about saving ammos and keeping the gun in nice condition. could worth something in long run.

[Mister Frag 0]

Also, I saw some warnings about 7.62x25 ammunition intended for versions of the PPsh machine gun while trying to locate the Cz-52 ammo.

There have been several documented incidents of Cz-52 handguns blowing up because the ammo intended for the machine guns produces pressures well in excess of what is safe in handguns. Keep that in mind if you do find an odd lot of ammo somewhere.