Firing Drills - Challenge!

[classic 38]

my best time for the red course

[rakowozz 14]

Hi, long time lurker, first time poster :)

Hope it's okay to post videos out of the videos thread. This is my Green course run in 01:35.940:

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[Sneakson 1]

Yup, but that seems quite unmaintainable :) So I'll go with text and you can post a screenshot from the finish line.

You can edit your best results. You can cheat and even a screenshot taken from the finish line can be fake. Well, I've considered several options and a video would truly be an ultimate proof. But the recording eats performance, you'll have to upload it...well at some point maybe. But our players don't play unfair or lie ;)

Definitely

We sadly have limitations the "small scale" games do not have, but the fluidity of movement and its intuitiveness is definitely something we're trying to improve.

You can take it as another challenge though ;) Firing drills are about agility after all.

Pls, post a screenshot or checkpoint number. Afaik there's no "Walk over" sign in blue.

My bad, whichever course has the "walk over" sign. The one where you start off by leaning with the pistol and in the very end you shoot many targets in the distance with the machine gun.

I just couldn’t stand in the right place and got penalties no matter where I stood.

The second "kneel" targets which I believe in the red course are also very hard to stand in the right place to hit though I eventually got it.

Anyways I’m gonna go through these a bit more today. I noticed several places it was a bit difficult to stand in the right place etc.

By the way I agree with the others that various interesting courses could be made other than room clearing-style courses. More ones about aiming, with static targets instead of obvious pop-ups… grenade throwing with potatoes also sounds fun.

And having accuracy count at least in two or three steps (hit the wood targets, hit the person on the target and hit a deadly part of the target like the head) would be really nice.

Oh and seeing high scores without having to enter the courses, the Rangemaster NOT starting while you're reloading which is really annoying, ammo resetting when you restart, openable doors and closeable hatches resetting...

[resistance-rat 10]

Red Course

Took a long time to do not forget about bridge targets :D

[Smurf 12]

Any plans for creating a ingame leaderboard for this? It is nice enough.

[Sneakson 1]

Hey wait, green course time is only 1.46?

Mine's 1.42.470 (Edit: 1.38.124) and I still can't hit the third of the final targets :( (Edit: now I can)

Some issues with the green course:

#9 and #15 are unmarked. Players see a waypoint but I'd rather have only some cone-wheel markers for Elite players.

#16, #17 and #18 standing zones could be expanded or shifted slightly ahead.

Sprinting through the finish line often causes it not to trigger... I may have had this happen on other courses too.

You start off with something like 2 reserve handgun mags and 3-4 machinegun mags... starting off with the maximum balanced 8 handgun mags and 2 machinegun mags.

Gonna try it a few more times then go to the next course.

Any plans for creating a ingame leaderboard for this? It is nice enough.

Ingame leaderboards sadly tend to get irrelevant quickly... with untouchably good players in the lead or, worse, cheaters.

However I think a "percentile rating" would be great. Anyone here plays Tetris over at Tetrisfriends? When you win you get a message saying "You're better than X% of players" without mentioning any special names.

A good way to take individual players and potential cheaters out of the spotlight and reducing stress by not showing any specific numbers of stats.

That way it becomes more about performing well and then seeing how you compare to other players than trying to beat specific scores for the sake of beating specific scores.

Edited June 26, 2013 by Sneakson

[rakowozz 14]

Any plans for creating a ingame leaderboard for this? It is nice enough.

Couldn't that stimulate people with dubious intentions to cheat? The Arma community is different, yes, but that's what happened in every other ingame leaderboard I've seen. That and absurd times of half a second at the top.

[chortles 263]

Accuracy of hit is not yet taken into account in the actual COFs.

Do you mean degree of accuracy or a binary "hit or no hit"? i.e. There's seemingly no benefit to taking time to aim for the head over center of mass, while the targets themselves are wider/taller/larger than the actual "enemy" outline on them so it seems like you can hit on the target outside of the "enemy" outline yet the target will still be knocked down.

[Sneakson 1]

Red Course: 53.539

Issue on red course: both standing areas on the bridge should be expanded... they are extremely difficult to get right.

I've finally found the exact spot to stand to get the second two targets but miss the first spot 9 out of 10 times.

Other than that it's great.

Took me hours to get this right and I could only pass the bridge like 1 and 10 times as mentioned...

[oukej 2910]

binary "hit or no hit"?

atm...yes

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Pls, try to post the finish line screenshots or vids ;)

[Sneakson 1]

I've always wanted to record gameplay but don't know a resource friendly way to do so.

I've got Razer's Game Booster installed and think it records a lot lower quality than Fraps so I might give that a go later.

Can anyone shoot the "Walk over" targets in Blue without getting a time penalty in Competitive mode by the way?

Edit: I just sprinted into the Orange tower checkpoint and it didn't trigger. I've had this happen at the second target checkpoint in Green too.

The checkpoint trigger lines seem a bit shaky.

And 47.635. Still no way not to get the "Walk over" penalties.

http://i.imgur.com/5WDLgLe.jpg (307 kB)

Edit: 46.668... can still be better.

Edit: Oh, Fraps only lets you do 30 secs... well here are 30 secs of a good run lol! In the end I missed the moving targets and ended up doing 50.X something but the beginning was nearly flawless despite the performance drop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WRobNqJB_k&feature=youtu.be

I love it at 9 seconds in where you can actually shoot the guy mid-air... I was awfully slow at 14 secs though.

Edited June 27, 2013 by Sneakson

[oukej 2910]

I love it at 9 seconds in where you can actually shoot the guy mid-air...

Only thing I can say is ... The force is strong with you my dear competitor :icon_eek:

Can anyone shoot the "Walk over" targets in Blue without getting a time penalty in Competitive mode by the way?

Still can't find it :/ Could you please post the Checkpoint number?

[rakowozz 14]

Is there a dev leaderboard? :D

(yay, first in green! ...for now... haha)

[Sneakson 1]

Is there a dev leaderboard? :D

(yay, first in green! ...for now... haha)

Awww! I missed your score since it wasn't in the first post.

I wanna be in the lead on all of them until CoD and Quake experts get in here and overkill my records.

Gotta get right back on green then. Really hate the ending. It's brilliant but difficult.

Only thing I can say is ... The force is strong with you my dear competitor :icon_eek:

Still can't find it :/ Could you please post the Checkpoint number?

#6.

Edit:

http://i.imgur.com/zJ6zEHJ.jpg (404 kB)

1.34.484

Can still do it quicker... the first semi-hidden target is difficult and moveshooting the crouching target and the final targets seems to work.

I tried recording lowest quality with Game Booster and it cut my framerate down by 50% pretty much so I guess I’ll have to look into a proper capture card when I upgrade my computer at the end of summer.

Edited June 27, 2013 by Sneakson

[RoyalGamersUK 10]

I can see myself having a stressful night after seeing these scores! Well done guys :)

[oukej 2910]

#6.

You are supposed to shoot 2 targets, with pistol, crouched, right behind the wooden board with the blue-sprayed "move" sign (just let yourself be stopped by it, crouch and fire).

It can be a bit tricky, because the stance is not indicated by a sprayed symbol there.

Is there a dev leaderboard? :D

Not after you've already posted your results ;) Why? A small leak goes here:

DnA's recent reaction... "and that is why the Gold time should be our best - 20 seconds ;)"

Edited June 27, 2013 by oukej

[xyberviri 1]

Edit: Oh, Fraps only lets you do 30 secs... well here are 30 secs of a good run lol!

The Demo version of fraps only records 30 seconds, if you pay for it you only are limited by disk space, your options if you dont want to pay for it is to download OBS and live stream to your hard drive (or to twitch.tv)

Honestly this does highlite how unfluid the movements are in some of the transitions. Personally i hate having to stop moving to unsling my main weapon.

[rakowozz 14]

I use Dxtory with the Lagarith Lossless codec. Give that a try, it pretty much does not affect my performance significantly. Although I lack HD space.

ps: it's on, Sneakson! :cool:

Haven't given red, blue and orange a try yet

[Sneakson 1]

You are supposed to shoot 2 targets, with pistol, crouched, right behind the wooden board with the blue-sprayed "move" sign (just let yourself be stopped by it, crouch and fire).

It can be a bit tricky, because the stance is not indicated by a sprayed symbol there.

Not after you've already posted your results ;) Why? A small leak goes here:

DnA's recent reaction... "and that is why the Gold time should be our best - 20 seconds ;)"

Aw... all places where you should have a specific stance at them should have the stance spray or alternatively no other stances should be allowed after a marker unless there's another marker...

Right now I don't think it's perfectly consistent.

The Demo version of fraps only records 30 seconds, if you pay for it you only are limited by disk space, your options if you dont want to pay for it is to download OBS and live stream to your hard drive (or to twitch.tv)

Honestly this does highlite how unfluid the movements are in some of the transitions. Personally i hate having to stop moving to unsling my main weapon.

Yes. I run into something, get stuck or smash my weapon into something about as often as I miss which leads to a restart. Auto weapon lowering and smoother movements when pressing up against objects needs to be done.

Switching between stances is right now also sort of unfinished and if you switch to standing while sprinting crouching and then release W you will keep moving regardless which often causes me to fall off the bridge in Red.

There are also some minor issues like the crouch into prone "throwing yourself on the ground" animation making the camera go into objects but that's pretty minor.

1.33.294

http://i.imgur.com/yVx74BI.jpg (363 kB)

Only a couple of misses, I think. Moveshooting the final 4 works pretty nice.

I think all records can be polished by 5 seconds by learning how to moveshoot better. We can do it. There don't seem to be many "legal shortcuts" though, not like Mirror's Edge speedruns. Yet anyways.

My palm hurts now though. Never knew how hard my mousepad is. Probably gonna take it easy, maybe try out my other mousepad with a jelly palmrest.

Never been superaccurate in games but I really think I've got my mouse settings right for relative CQB now. I'm at a very sensitive 10 cm/360 compared to CS players at about 20 cm/360 and Quake players at 24-30 cm/360.

So we'll see if any oldschool vets check in soon.

So yeah. Probably gonna do some Showcases and try the new official multiplayer map today. Seems nice.

Edited June 28, 2013 by Sneakson

[shocknawe 11]

Green course: 01.34.468

[Sneakson 1]

Blue sometimes starts night making it impossible lol...

[runekn 3]

Goodbye highscore board. It was nice as long it lasted.

[Sneakson 1]

Goodbye highscore board. It was nice as long it lasted.

You're still in three places :p

[runekn 3]

You're still in three places :p

But for how long?

[becubed 24]

Green is broken now as the pistol is .45 but all the ammo is 9mm.

I feel foolish for bringing the wrong crackers and am too scared to tell the rangemaster:j: